Draft...Would you serve or run?

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SlowSS

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Originally posted by: BoberFett

Piss off, ass-loaf. Had you read the thread you'd know that I did time in the military, so I think I have a little different perspective than some little acne-ridden geek hiding behind his monitor.

Haha, you make me laugh, "little acne-ridden geek" bwahahaha.....

What did you do in the military? A friggin cook? A paper pusher? Or a fuggin ass muncher.... What a fvcktard.



 

TDSLB

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Originally posted by: FettsBabe


I couldn't serve right now because I am pregnant, but if I weren't pregnant, I would serve IF it there was a valid reason to go to war. If not, I would leave. I'm not dying nor will I kill other people for oil or any other inappropriate reason. Only drafting men is sexist. If we are going to have a draft lets draft men and women.

I strongly believe that women shouldn't be drafted in the middle of the war. Especially to fight at the front lines. The horrible things that could happen to them if they were to be captured by opposing armies I wouldn't even want to speak of. Rape to be blunt. Woman, I guess, could have a place in military warefare AWAY from the front lines. I would never ever let, much less ask a woman fight on the front lines of a war.

serve (but i already served, i can't be drafted, but i could be recalled if a war of sufficient magnitude developed)

i have two daughters

if they ran, i would go find them myself and turn them in


Good sir, I respect you for the fact that you served in army and deserve respect for that but, Are you accually saying that you would willingly send your own two daughters to the front lines of a war?! Sons are different. It is the mans duty to protect his country.

IMHO.
 

Red Dawn

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I can assure you that most people who support going to war with Iraq wouldn't support it if they felt the the US would sustain heavy casualties like we did in Vietnam, Korea or worse, WW2.
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
I can assure you that most people who support going to war with Iraq wouldn't support it if they felt the the US would sustain heavy casualties like we did in Vietnam, Korea or worse, WW2.

But they won't.

I would enlist before the draft got me but today I found out they probably wouldn't take me due to my vision. -8.00 in both eyes. Hell, the only way I can get the job I want (Law Enforcement is to have LASIK or RK surgery) most major metro PDs require anywhere from -1.00 uncorrected to -2.50 uncorrected.
 

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Lifer
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Serve. But unless we go to war with China or maybe North Korea or Iraq, Iran, and North Korea at the SAME time, I don't see the draft coming back. It would end Bush's administration.
 

BoberFett

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Originally posted by: SlowSS
Originally posted by: BoberFett

Piss off, ass-loaf. Had you read the thread you'd know that I did time in the military, so I think I have a little different perspective than some little acne-ridden geek hiding behind his monitor.

Haha, you make me laugh, "little acne-ridden geek" bwahahaha.....

What did you do in the military? A friggin cook? A paper pusher? Or a fuggin ass muncher.... What a fvcktard.

I was an FO you worm. Got anything else up your sleeve, moron?
 

UltraQuiet

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Originally posted by: BoberFett
Originally posted by: DaveSohmer
Originally posted by: BoberFett
Originally posted by: DaveSohmer
Originally posted by: BoberFett

All I'm saying is that those who want to fight in a war will fight regardless of a draft. If the government who was elected BY THE PEOPLE, can't get those same people to volunteer when it comes to to fight, then that's THE PEOPLE telling the ELECTED that the war is unwanted.

So by your reasoning then we shouldn't be in Afghanistan.

Afghanistan was harboring a group who ALREADY DIRECTLY attacked the United States. Has sufficient evidence been gathered that Saddam is involved in directly hurting or plotting to hurt the United States or it's allies? I guess that's what we're all hoping the weapons inspectors will clear up.

So I'm not allowed to choose whether or not fight based on my own belifes. But apparently, some of you feel that your own personal dislike for Hussein is reason enough to destroy their country.

You're obviously not smart enough to read your own post. What you said was that if we can't get people to volunteer then we shouldn't fight. There was no rush to the recruiting offices after 9/11 so by your reasoning then we shouldn't be in Afghanistan and like I said before there was no great rush to go and fight Hitler so obviously we should never have fought the war in Europe. Using your criteria for worthiness, of course.

And apparently you too goddam stupid to understand a word spoken in this thread.

Obviously, they military had the resources to go into Afghanistan without a draft. If a draft was instituted, it means there aren't enough people volunteering to fight in the particular war that the gub'ment is waging at the time. And if there aren't enough people volunteering to fight, then it's not a popular war and perhaps the gub'ment should re-evaluate whether it should actually be in that war or not.

You're a f@cking moron. No wonder you're a military lifer.

Oh, I'm so sorry. I was supposed to be able to interpret the jizz spittle that is spewing forth out of your ballwashing c0ckholster. Pardon me for taking what you said literally. Once again I will point out to you that there was no rush to volunteer before Pearl Harbor so by your worthiness criteria ( which in my opinion is nothing more than a cowards way of rationalizing) we should never have fought the wars in Europe. If that's your argument you got real balls calling me a moron, asshat. Of course your argument fits in real well in this thread since the ignorant fscktard that started this thread is convinced that we announced plans to take over the oil fields for our own use.

 

DAPUNISHER

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Dammit! I need to go make more popcorn, I hope the mods don't lock this while I'm away..........
 

SlowSS

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Originally posted by: BoberFett
Originally posted by: SlowSS
Originally posted by: BoberFett

Piss off, ass-loaf. Had you read the thread you'd know that I did time in the military, so I think I have a little different perspective than some little acne-ridden geek hiding behind his monitor.

Haha, you make me laugh, "little acne-ridden geek" bwahahaha.....

What did you do in the military? A friggin cook? A paper pusher? Or a fuggin ass muncher.... What a fvcktard.

I was an FO you worm. Got anything else up your sleeve, moron?

Still doesn't change the fact that you are still ass munching fvcktard.

Be honest, you got kicked out of military because you got caught getting ass pounding...Oops sorry didn't mean to let the cat out of the bag here in OT.



 

BoberFett

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Originally posted by: SlowSS
Originally posted by: BoberFett
I was an FO you worm. Got anything else up your sleeve, moron?

Still doesn't change the fact that you are still ass munching fvcktard.

Be honest, you got kicked out of military because you got caught getting ass pounding...Oops sorry didn't mean to let the cat out of the bag here in OT.

Did you serve? Do you know what an FO is? How deep do those pimples run and have they affected your brain?
 

BoberFett

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Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: DaveSohmer
Originally posted by: BoberFett
And apparently you too goddam stupid to understand a word spoken in this thread.

Obviously, they military had the resources to go into Afghanistan without a draft. If a draft was instituted, it means there aren't enough people volunteering to fight in the particular war that the gub'ment is waging at the time. And if there aren't enough people volunteering to fight, then it's not a popular war and perhaps the gub'ment should re-evaluate whether it should actually be in that war or not.

You're a f@cking moron. No wonder you're a military lifer.

Oh, I'm so sorry. I was supposed to be able to interpret the jizz spittle that is spewing forth out of your ballwashing c0ckholster. Pardon me for taking what you said literally. Once again I will point out to you that there was no rush to volunteer before Pearl Harbor so by your worthiness criteria ( which in my opinion is nothing more than a cowards way of rationalizing) we should never have fought the wars in Europe. If that's your argument you got real balls calling me a moron, asshat. Of course your argument fits in real well in this thread since the ignorant fscktard that started this thread is convinced that we announced plans to take over the oil fields for our own use.

You were supposed to read what I wrote literally. I wasn't speaking in code. If you can't understand it, then it's your limited mental faculties which are to blame and not my wording.

And I stand by my criteria for the worthiness of a war. If Americans volunteer to fight in it, then it's a just war.
 

SnapIT

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Jul 8, 2002
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Originally posted by: DaveSohmer
Originally posted by: BoberFett
Originally posted by: DaveSohmer
Originally posted by: BoberFett
Originally posted by: DaveSohmer
Originally posted by: BoberFett

All I'm saying is that those who want to fight in a war will fight regardless of a draft. If the government who was elected BY THE PEOPLE, can't get those same people to volunteer when it comes to to fight, then that's THE PEOPLE telling the ELECTED that the war is unwanted.

So by your reasoning then we shouldn't be in Afghanistan.

Afghanistan was harboring a group who ALREADY DIRECTLY attacked the United States. Has sufficient evidence been gathered that Saddam is involved in directly hurting or plotting to hurt the United States or it's allies? I guess that's what we're all hoping the weapons inspectors will clear up.

So I'm not allowed to choose whether or not fight based on my own belifes. But apparently, some of you feel that your own personal dislike for Hussein is reason enough to destroy their country.

You're obviously not smart enough to read your own post. What you said was that if we can't get people to volunteer then we shouldn't fight. There was no rush to the recruiting offices after 9/11 so by your reasoning then we shouldn't be in Afghanistan and like I said before there was no great rush to go and fight Hitler so obviously we should never have fought the war in Europe. Using your criteria for worthiness, of course.

And apparently you too goddam stupid to understand a word spoken in this thread.

Obviously, they military had the resources to go into Afghanistan without a draft. If a draft was instituted, it means there aren't enough people volunteering to fight in the particular war that the gub'ment is waging at the time. And if there aren't enough people volunteering to fight, then it's not a popular war and perhaps the gub'ment should re-evaluate whether it should actually be in that war or not.

You're a f@cking moron. No wonder you're a military lifer.

Oh, I'm so sorry. I was supposed to be able to interpret the jizz spittle that is spewing forth out of your ballwashing c0ckholster. Pardon me for taking what you said literally. Once again I will point out to you that there was no rush to volunteer before Pearl Harbor so by your worthiness criteria ( which in my opinion is nothing more than a cowards way of rationalizing) we should never have fought the wars in Europe. If that's your argument you got real balls calling me a moron, asshat. Of course your argument fits in real well in this thread since the ignorant fscktard that started this thread is convinced that we announced plans to take over the oil fields for our own use.

I would bet that 99% of any sane human would think the same thing, because the purpose is NOT that they are a threat... And 100% of the sane humans would believe that NK who have thrown out the inspectors, claimed that a war with the US is inevitable and that they DO have nukes is a BIGGER threat...

Even a moron (i almost wrote mormon) like you would understand that... if you used your brain that is...

And yes, my balls are bigger than yours and if you met me you would run for your life...
 

UltraQuiet

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I would bet that 99% of any sane human would think the same thing, because the purpose is NOT that they are a threat... And 100% of the sane humans would believe that NK who have thrown out the inspectors, claimed that a war with the US is inevitable and that they DO have nukes is a BIGGER threat...

Even a moron (i almost wrote mormon) like you would understand that... if you used your brain that is...

And yes, my balls are bigger than yours and if you met me you would run for your life...


If you were capable of putting together two coherent, intelligent sentences we would all know who you were talking to and what you are trying (with all your might, I'm sure) to say.
 

SnapIT

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Originally posted by: DaveSohmer
I would bet that 99% of any sane human would think the same thing, because the purpose is NOT that they are a threat... And 100% of the sane humans would believe that NK who have thrown out the inspectors, claimed that a war with the US is inevitable and that they DO have nukes is a BIGGER threat...

Even a moron (i almost wrote mormon) like you would understand that... if you used your brain that is...

And yes, my balls are bigger than yours and if you met me you would run for your life...


If you were capable of putting together two coherent, intelligent sentences we would all know who you were talking to and what you are trying (with all your might, I'm sure) to say.

I'll say it in six short words: You are a stupid Americanized bitch

Better?
 

SlowSS

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Originally posted by: BoberFett
Originally posted by: SlowSS
Originally posted by: BoberFett
I was an FO you worm. Got anything else up your sleeve, moron?

Still doesn't change the fact that you are still ass munching fvcktard.

Be honest, you got kicked out of military because you got caught getting ass pounding...Oops sorry didn't mean to let the cat out of the bag here in OT.

Did you serve? Do you know what an FO is? How deep do those pimples run and have they affected your brain?

Ok, enough of this childish name callings, unless you want to continue......

I still think your characterization of career military personnel was completely disrespectful and reprehensible.
 

monckywrench

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Oh Joy! Yet another draft thread.
Howsabout BOTH sides write your congresscritters to make sure we don't have one?
This will save your military from an influx of the unwilling, save the DOD from having to waste resources on them, save the peaceniks from serving, and allow the military to do its job without the non-volunteers whining about policy. It will leave more money to pay those of us who WILLINGLY serve, thus cutting turnover, which is the real personnel problem facing the services. I need unwilling troops like I need underwear woven from poison sumac. Being a supervisor is sufficient hassle without conscripts.
FWIW, a country is ill-served by soldiers who pick and choose the wars they fight. Our job is to win them. (Hell, I didn't quit when Clinton was elected!)
The duty of choosing those wars is up to the .gov. The duty of getting off their fat arses and influencing .gov policy belongs to the slugs, er, public. Inaction is still a choice, so we get the government we deserve.
 

UltraQuiet

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Originally posted by: SnapIT
Originally posted by: DaveSohmer
I would bet that 99% of any sane human would think the same thing, because the purpose is NOT that they are a threat... And 100% of the sane humans would believe that NK who have thrown out the inspectors, claimed that a war with the US is inevitable and that they DO have nukes is a BIGGER threat...

Even a moron (i almost wrote mormon) like you would understand that... if you used your brain that is...

And yes, my balls are bigger than yours and if you met me you would run for your life...


If you were capable of putting together two coherent, intelligent sentences we would all know who you were talking to and what you are trying (with all your might, I'm sure) to say.

I'll say it in six short words: You are a stupid Americanized bitch

Better?

Being called stupid and bitch by somebody who blows goats and reindeer for a nickel a herd ( a business inherited from it's mother) really doesn't bother me that much. You have proven time and again that you are nothing but a shrill, pussilanimous euro troll who obviously has more teeth than brain cells and who's head is stuck so far up his own ass ( tight fit sharing that space with the goats and reindeer) he can see his own tonsils.

I'd stick with the shorter words if I were you. You seem to be able to handle them better

 

SnapIT

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Originally posted by: DaveSohmer
Originally posted by: SnapIT
Originally posted by: DaveSohmer
I would bet that 99% of any sane human would think the same thing, because the purpose is NOT that they are a threat... And 100% of the sane humans would believe that NK who have thrown out the inspectors, claimed that a war with the US is inevitable and that they DO have nukes is a BIGGER threat...

Even a moron (i almost wrote mormon) like you would understand that... if you used your brain that is...

And yes, my balls are bigger than yours and if you met me you would run for your life...


If you were capable of putting together two coherent, intelligent sentences we would all know who you were talking to and what you are trying (with all your might, I'm sure) to say.

I'll say it in six short words: You are a stupid Americanized bitch

Better?

Being called stupid and bitch by somebody who blows goats and reindeer for a nickel a herd ( a business inherited from it's mother) really doesn't bother me that much. You have proven time and again that you are nothing but a shrill, pussilanimous euro troll who obviously has more teeth than brain cells and who's head is stuck so far up his own ass ( tight fit sharing that space with the goats and reindeer) he can see his own tonsils.

I'd stick with the shorter words if I were you. You seem to be able to handle them better

LOL, at least you have humor...

Happy new year you old goat (and no, this does not mean i will blow you)
 

BarneyFife

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I would either try to get an educational deferal like our boy Big Dick or join the national guard like Georgie. If that doesn't work, I can always leave this country because we know that all other countries don't give you any freedeom LOL (I love the American brainwashing).
 

gopunk

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i would probably serve....

i don't really know if we would be there for the right reasons... but hopefully i will be put in a non-combatant role... i'm not particularly atheletic and frankly i would probably be more useful doing something other than actual fighting. wouldn't hurt to get a little extra exercise though... probably won't get killed...
 

EvilYoda

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Since my life's in a huge rut right now, I've thought more than a few times about joining the Army/armed forces, since I know I have abilities that could be put to good use there...but as for a draft, it would seriously depend on the reason. I'm not one to run from duty, but potentially getting killed for a gov't agenda that isn't critical is a good reason to.
 

xSauronx

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in the case of a draft id volunteer for the air force and try to land a job sweeping the floors or washing windows at a airbase

nothing with guns, i like guns, but id rather not have too many pointed at my person....or my jr person
ditto for grenades
 

oniq

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I'm so glad that many of you will serve and protect this country. Unforunately, I must take the route of our past President and run. Hell, if a President can run to avoid the draft, why can't I? Good luck to all of you that fight for our country. Anyway, they wouldn't take me, I have one kidney and I tried going for the Marines and they wouldn't let me in. Ooooh well...
 
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