Dragon Age 3: Inquisition announced

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tential

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I have to laugh at the 'ridiculous grudge' comment. I'm not sure how repeatedly stupid archaic endeavors that prove to be nothing but issues is ridiculous, but ok.

If the first 2 weeks is truly why, then drop the price by $20 at release for the first 2 weeks and you'll make as many extra in sales as you spent on creating a DRM that likely will only cause people issues who paid for the game. Of course, suits don't look at things in that way. You already have Steam (or is it Origin?) as a DRM, anything on top of that is just asking for issues.

All this news does is make me say, I won't buy the game for at least 2-3 months after all the issues have been worked through - if ever.

Anyone preordering this game at this point is kind of foolish. Grudge or no grudge. If this statement upsets you, well it should.
He said he wasn't picking the game up operiod. Not that he would wait 2 weeks so no, the comment isn't ridiculous it's completely valid.

Rather than just wait, he won't pick up a potentially great game PERIOD.

I'll just wait.

Like I said, gamers hold the most ridiculous grudges.
 

exar333

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He said he wasn't picking the game up operiod. Not that he would wait 2 weeks so no, the comment isn't ridiculous it's completely valid.

Rather than just wait, he won't pick up a potentially great game PERIOD.

I'll just wait.

Like I said, gamers hold the most ridiculous grudges.

Buy the game and then pirate it without the DRM. I fully support that, assuming you are not distributing the game afterwards. You bought it, and I believe we deserve to be allowed to play it as we see fit.
 

ImpulsE69

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Speaking with your wallet is not ridiculous. Not sure why people can't figure that out. It's the only power people actually still have.
 

tential

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Buy the game and then pirate it without the DRM. I fully support that, assuming you are not distributing the game afterwards. You bought it, and I believe we deserve to be allowed to play it as we see fit.

Another option as well. IMO it's not even "piracy" at that point. It's just making the game run correctly =D.
 

chimaxi83

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I have to laugh at the 'ridiculous grudge' comment. I'm not sure how repeatedly stupid archaic endeavors that prove to be nothing but issues is ridiculous, but ok.

If the first 2 weeks is truly why, then drop the price by $20 at release for the first 2 weeks and you'll make as many extra in sales as you spent on creating a DRM that likely will only cause people issues who paid for the game. Of course, suits don't look at things in that way. You already Origin as a DRM, anything on top of that is just asking for issues.

All this news does is make me say, I won't buy the game for at least 2-3 months after all the issues have been worked through - if ever.

Anyone preordering this game at this point is kind of foolish. Grudge or no grudge. If this statement upsets you, well it should.

Of course, on further thought, myself would skip it simply because it is on Origin. Here let me give you my money AND jump through hoops. Sorry I have too many other games to play already that don't require it....doesn't matter how potentially good it is.
Oh, Origin basher #4610459. Well ok.
 

SPBHM

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this new DRM seems to work well for many games, funny how the game is not going to be pirated on the PC for a while, but can be pirated on the Xbox 360 and PS3 right now
 

Mem

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Speaking with your wallet is not ridiculous. Not sure why people can't figure that out. It's the only power people actually still have.


Choice is the real power,as to pre-orders well that's really down to the gamer/buyer in question,some like to pick up a new game soon as possible especially if it's their favourite type of game,others like to wait and get a bargain when the price is reduced or even wait for a patch or two,there is no right or wrong in this since it's a preference thing.


Origin wise I never had a problem,same goes for Steam,U-Play etc...

Remember some things gamers have to do that comes with the territory ie upgrade hardware and use DRM now and then,I rather do that then try and get an illegal copy and support piracy which is one thing I have never done.
 

tential

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Choice is the real power,as to pre-orders well that's really down to the gamer/buyer in question,some like to pick up a new game soon as possible especially if it's their favourite type of game,others like to wait and get a bargain when the price is reduced or even wait for a patch or two,there is no right or wrong in this since it's a preference thing.


Origin wise I never had a problem,same goes for Steam,U-Play etc...

Remember some things gamers have to do that comes with the territory ie upgrade hardware and use DRM now and then,I rather do that then try and get an illegal copy and support piracy which is one thing I have never done.

Steam has given me a great reason to stop piracy. Their In Home Streaming service has pretty much made me say no to Piracy. The whole suite of features steam offers actually is just so great to me that I really applaud them for the work they did. I remember when I first played CS on Steam and how I probably wished unspeakable things on every employee working at Valve. Amazing how it went from worst thing ever created to me to best.
Origin isn't that bad either if it had streaming as well I'd love it. The Free Play Access games they have are pretty nice.
The only thing I'd change about UPlay is that it didn't exist. To even login to their service through their website is ridiculous. The three separate occasions I've logged in there it's been HELL (not logged, nothing working, having to login multiple different times, etc.). It may not be always like this, but I've tried on three separate occasions over the span of 1 year now and each time I just felt like I should just purchase the game on steam and be done with it.
 

ControlD

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So what you are saying is that a $600 cpu is all that's required to play a $60 game? Sounds like a good deal to me.

Probably not.

However, I am guessing any gaming PC capable of running a current AAA release at acceptable settings should be able to handle whatever small performance hit this DRM is adding.

I'm not defending the inclusion of extra DRM, I just don't think the performance hit angle is the right argument.
 

ControlD

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I don't understand why they need to add a second layer of DRM on top of this. As usual it is only going to penalize the people legally obtaining the game in the first place. I imagine there will be a cracked version available the day the game comes out, so what good is this going to do? None.
 

Leopardos

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I dont know if to get it for PS4 or PC...
Someone mentioned in a youtube video that the PC version has more Spells than the consoles due to the controller number of keys...
Is it true? if true, its an instant PC pre order :O
 

ImpulsE69

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I dont know if to get it for PS4 or PC...
Someone mentioned in a youtube video that the PC version has more Spells than the consoles due to the controller number of keys...
Is it true? if true, its an instant PC pre order :O

I highly doubt that. It is more likely they mean access to more spells at a time without having to rebind due to being able to bind to keyboard rather limited by controller buttons.
 

Bateluer

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I dont know if to get it for PS4 or PC...
Someone mentioned in a youtube video that the PC version has more Spells than the consoles due to the controller number of keys...
Is it true? if true, its an instant PC pre order :O

You always get the PC version. Always. Unless you like the game so much you'll buy it again a year later on the PC after its modded to hell and back.
 

RampantAndroid

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I don't understand why they need to add a second layer of DRM on top of this. As usual it is only going to penalize the people legally obtaining the game in the first place. I imagine there will be a cracked version available the day the game comes out, so what good is this going to do? None.

It's to prevent modification of the EXE/prevent cheating online apparently...not that I agree. The reasons for me not buying DAI (or any Bioware games, for that matter) have just been mounting. This isn't even the straw that broke the camels back (in fact, ME3 & Bioware's terrible response was the 2 ton anvil that crushed the poor camel) - it's just another reason.
 

Carfax83

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R58l7trgMbE&feature=youtu.be

PC Low Preset vs Ultra Preset.

Interesting view point, game doesn't look all that bad under the low presets most of the time.

Looks like there's hardly any difference between low and ultra preset. Gaming Evolved strikes again! The footage in that video doesn't look like the footage in the pre-release trailers, so either it's been downgraded a bit or the YouTube compression isn't showing the true quality.

Either way, I don't think DAI is going to be the eye popper we all thought it was going to be.

And I wonder if those people who were criticizing AC Unity for pop in, are going to turn a blind eye to the pop in in DAI?

If I had to guess, the answer would be," What pop in?"
 

davie jambo

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Looks like there's hardly any difference between low and ultra preset. Gaming Evolved strikes again! The footage in that video doesn't look like the footage in the pre-release trailers, so either it's been downgraded a bit or the YouTube compression isn't showing the true quality.

Either way, I don't think DAI is going to be the eye popper we all thought it was going to be.

And I wonder if those people who were criticizing AC Unity for pop in, are going to turn a blind eye to the pop in in DAI?

If I had to guess, the answer would be," What pop in?"


It's a youtube video you'll never be able to tell the difference

Wonder if the PC version has full controller support to make it more like the console versions (DA:O on xbox was a different game to PC version because of the controls)
 

Bateluer

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Looks like there's hardly any difference between low and ultra preset. Gaming Evolved strikes again! The footage in that video doesn't look like the footage in the pre-release trailers, so either it's been downgraded a bit or the YouTube compression isn't showing the true quality.

You watch the whole thing? Portions that I know to be cutscenes seem much higher quality than the sections I'm fairly sure are gameplay. Gameplay sections have a very noticeable drop in quality relative to ultra. Frostbite 3 engine is known for being extremely scalable though, but since they're still shipping DAI for the 360 and PS3, their baseline hardware is extremely low.
 

Demo24

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Low looks roughly equivalent to last gen consoles. Biggest differences I noticed were lighting effects, the hair (looked gross on low) , and some texture definitions (guessing tessellation from DX 11?). Also apparent but hard to see being the anti-aliasing of course.

Id be more interested to see a comparison between ps4 and ultra on PC. Also debating where I want to get this game.
 

motsm

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Between all the crap ports, DRM, and just general gameplay I don't care for, it's becoming very hard to enjoy gaming.

Anyway, I'll pass on this one, maybe worth $5 if it's cracked in a year.
 
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