A lot of games still has great PC interfaces. I don't think saying 'live with it' is a good suggestion, when you can instead vote with your wallet and not buy half-assed ports.
This is what happens when consoles rule the industry, in large part due to pirating. Unfortunately, this is the future of PC gaming. We get console interfaces. You either have to live with it, or complain all day.
A lot of games still has great PC interfaces. I don't think saying 'live with it' is a good suggestion, when you can instead vote with your wallet and not buy half-assed ports.
This is what happens when consoles rule the industry, in large part due to pirating. Unfortunately, this is the future of PC gaming. We get console interfaces. You either have to live with it, or complain all day.
Unfortunately, that doesn't really apply to RPG's. A lot of game interfaces work just fine for both, but tactical RPG's are one genre that doesn't work for consoles well and more and more, you see them being designed around the console limitations, rather than the PC strengths and if you like the genre, then you either live with the few games we get, or not play them at all.
I hate the vote with your wallet argument. I agree the controls are half arsed and frustrating but all me not buying the game is going to do is stop me from playing it...
If anything more people buying it and complaining their tits off about the controls are more likely to make a change at somewhere like Bioware than not.
It sounds like DA:I is barely even a tactical RPG. I mean, 'tactical mode' sounds like a complete afterthought. It seems like you are supposed to play it like a third person action rpg so you can do things like manually block, dodge, aim, etc. It really sounds like they should have dropped all vestiges of DA:O's tactical side and gone full action RPG.
I'd rather just give money to more deserved tactical RPGs (Divinity Original Sin, Wasteland 2, likely Pillar of Eternity and Tides of Numeria) than give money to a half-assed console action RPG compromise.
I'd rather wait to pick up a generic fantasy action RPG at $15 or so, since I'm not a big fan of the genre really.
Why are there so many damn resource nodes... I'm only a few hours in and I've already collected from roughly a couple hundred nodes. This is going to completely kill any replay value for me, what an utter waste of time. They could cut down the number of nodes by 50% and there would still be too way too many...
Guys, give the controls a chance and try them with an open mind, it's not that bad. sure it's not what you can expect for a PC game and it's a bit alien but give it 30 minutes and you'll get used to.
I don't want to get used to it. The PC controls are garbage period, and fall far short of the two previous games, which had very optimized controls for K&M.
Playing with an Xbox controller is far superior to using K&M at this time. Maybe a future patch will change that though..
On another note, they need auto attack back. Having to constantly press the attack button decreases the strategic aspect of the game, because it forces you to have to pay close attention to whatever character you're controlling is doing.
It sounds like DA:I is barely even a tactical RPG. I mean, 'tactical mode' sounds like a complete afterthought. It seems like you are supposed to play it like a third person action rpg so you can do things like manually block, dodge, aim, etc. It really sounds like they should have dropped all vestiges of DA:O's tactical side and gone full action RPG.
I'd rather just give money to more deserved tactical RPGs (Divinity Original Sin, Wasteland 2, likely Pillar of Eternity and Tides of Numeria) than give money to a half-assed console action RPG compromise.
I'd rather wait to pick up a generic fantasy action RPG at $15 or so, since I'm not a big fan of the genre really.
How are companies going to realize they made a mistake if sales don't suffer as a result? That is the only thing that really matters in the end - their bottom line.
By preordering DA:I and recommend others do the same, you are not only excusing DA2 but also excusing their shoddy PC port efforts.
You could play all of Dragon Age: Origins in tactical mode, and actually ages well if you play in that mode.
This game really isn't designed for tactical mode except in a few instances you are in a wide open map in a flat plain. Anytime there is a ceiling obstruction you can going to be staring at the ground from 3 feet up looking at your characters feet.
I have played it, although only about 4 hours so far as I am trying to wrap up DA2 first and I want to get my new video card installed so I can play this game with everything turned on.
The tactical camera not zooming out far enough is a real and valid complaint that hopefully can be addressed at some point.
What you are wishing for in tactical view is already how the game works. If you switch to tactical and select an enemy you will move to them and attack. It is only in the default "action" mode where you have to manually move up to an enemy and attack them. You can also select any of your party members and give them targets / orders just like in the previous games.
What I don't want is an action rpg, such as the witcher games, fable, or the like. Those games have their place, but I vastly prefer the tactical types myself, and it's what I was expecting when they announced the game.
If you actually played DA2 and honestly thought it was a "absolute diabolical and unforgiveable $!*&ing mess" then no you will not enjoy DA3 at all. Do no buy it. DA3 may be the best RPG of the last 10 years but your hate mongering will prevent you from enjoying it in any way.
Good, as long as tactical mode plays like I want it to play, that would all it would take to make me happy. If they can fix the zooming issue, then I'll have no complaints, sounds like.
Basically, what I want is a story driven, tactical combat styled rpg, ala baldur's gate, planescape torment, arcanum, temple of elemental evil, etc etc.
What I don't want is an action rpg, such as the witcher games, fable, or the like. Those games have their place, but I vastly prefer the tactical types myself, and it's what I was expecting when they announced the game.
If DA3 is anything even remotely like DA2 then the idea that it could be the best RPG in the last 10 years is utterly laughable at best.
Thanks for the feedback though, sounds like DA3 is basically just DA2, which is to say awful