Dragon Age 3: Inquisition announced

[alcoholbob]

If it's set for next gen consoles, at earliest it would be a launch title, that would be probably December 31, 2013 at the earliest.

 

[Madia]

Fall 2014 is the set release date from E3:

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/06/10/dragon-age-3-confirmed-for-fall-2014/

The teaser didn't show much other than Morrigan and Varric being back. I'm interested in seeing some gameplay footage since obviously bioware isn't going to back to the gameplay of DA:O (which they tried to get away from in 2) nor of 2 (which was critically panned).

 

[ArenCordial]

Fall 2014 is the set release date from E3:

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/06/10/dragon-age-3-confirmed-for-fall-2014/

The teaser didn't show much other than Morrigan and Varric being back. I'm interested in seeing some gameplay footage since obviously bioware isn't going to back to the gameplay of DA:O (which they tried to get away from in 2) nor of 2 (which was critically panned).

Personally I think its stupid of them to bring Morrigan back especially considering that you could choose to have your Warden leave Thedas with her. I hope its just not a fan service bringing her back.

I wonder how they plan on working that out. Probably they will do something like Obsidian did with Revan in KotOR 2 (away fighting great evil) assuming they don't pull another stunt like with Leliana in DA2 and just flat-out invalidate your decisions.

 

[Madia]

Personally I think its stupid of them to bring Morrigan back especially considering that you could choose to have your Warden leave Thedas with her. I hope its just not a fan service bringing her back.

I wonder how they plan on working that out.

I think bringing back Morrigan is a little bit of fan service since she was one of the most popular characters in the original. Not to mention brining back Varric who was the only character I recall liking from the second.

Since this isn't Mass Effect I'm guessing bioware is going to write the canon for the third however they want. I highly doubt that your previous saves from DA:O or DA2 will affect anything in the third. First, DA3 is on next gen consoles so none of them will have access to their saves. As for PC gamers how many actually still have saves from the previous DA games?

 

[Bateluer]

Personally I think its stupid of them to bring Morrigan back especially considering that you could choose to have your Warden leave Thedas with her. I hope its just not a fan service bringing her back.

Of all the characters in DAO, Morrigan had the biggest story element, which was left almost completely unresolved at the end of Origns, Awakening, and Witch Hunt. That child of hers should be a MAJOR plot element, so her coming back makes sense.

And Varric at least made me crack a smile a few times in DA2.

 

[RampantAndroid]

Of all the characters in DAO, Morrigan had the biggest story element, which was left almost completely unresolved at the end of Origns, Awakening, and Witch Hunt. That child of hers should be a MAJOR plot element, so her coming back makes sense.

And Varric at least made me crack a smile a few times in DA2.

I think Varric was the only redeemable NPC in DA2. Isabela wouldn't be awful to show up again, I guess. The rest...well, if the opening cutscene to DA3 shows the rest of the NPC squad mates being pushed off a cliff into a fire...I'd be happy.

That is, if I buy DA3. Which given my thoughts about DA2, is unlikely.

 

[ArenCordial]

Of all the characters in DAO, Morrigan had the biggest story element, which was left almost completely unresolved at the end of Origns, Awakening, and Witch Hunt. That child of hers should be a MAJOR plot element, so her coming back makes sense.

And Varric at least made me crack a smile a few times in DA2.

IF you did the dark ritual.

@Madia - Then why go to all the fuss of allowing game importing at all if your not going to honor an individual's game choice? That's probably my biggest problem with BioWare these days. Pick option A and you get C. Pick option B and you get C. Illusion of choice is necessary is some instances but quite frankly I think its BS if a dev grants me a choice and then effectively invalidates it. If my Dark Ritual Warden screws the worlds that's great! If my Ultimate Sacrifice Warden spares the world a huge headache with that sacrifice then that's fantastic. Give me a big consequence. Thought I do think you're right in that our saves will mean little especially considering the new console generation.

 

[Madia]

IF you did the dark ritual.

@Madia - Then why go to all the fuss of allowing game importing at all if your not going to honor an individual's game choice?

My guess is that bioware was only intent on having the Mass Effect saves affect the later games. The save import via DA2 only changed minor things (the warden male/female, dead/alive, etc.) and I doubt bioware gave any thought about DA 2 save imports when DA:0 was being developed. I don't blame them; you can only go so far in non-linear games if your actions are going to affect the next game. I mean Witcher 3 has 36 ending variations and it is really only carrying over imported data from Witcher 2 (Witcher 1's import hardly changed anything).

Still it is frustrating since DA:O left the story so open.

Spoiler

The warden can be dead or alive. The warden can be male of female. Morrigan can have a child or not. The child could be the warden's or Allistar's. Morrigan can be in love with the warden or stabbed in the stomach by him. Etc., etc. etc.

Personally I thought they should've just rebooted the franchise and set it 400 years in the future or something. I mean DA:O stood on it's own and the sequel they did give us was so poor no one is clamoring for a continuation of it's story.

In the end the canon won't really matter if bioware delivers an excellent game. I hope they do but I'm not optimistic after being burnt on preordering DA2 and ME3.

 

[Bateluer]

IF you did the dark ritual.

Show of hands here. On your first play through, who did not bang Morrigan?

 

[ArenCordial]

Personally I thought they should've just rebooted the franchise and set it 400 years in the future or something. I mean DA:O stood on it's own and the sequel they did give us was so poor no one is clamoring for a continuation of it's story.

In the end the canon won't really matter if bioware delivers an excellent game. I hope they do but I'm not optimistic after being burnt on preordering DA2 and ME3.

I'm in complete agreement with you here as I thought they best thing they could have done for the sequels to have it at least a generation or two after each other so all the major characters would have gone on their callings/died of age.

Since DA is supposed to be about Thedas they really don't need to keep putting in old characters, but they keep doing it often at the expense of player's decisions. Well see how this turns out but its very wait and see in my mind.

 

[ArenCordial]

Show of hands here. On your first play through, who did not bang Morrigan?

No comment :sneaky:. Still I imagine some of the ladies didn't want their boy toys cheating. And the Ultimate Sacrifice ending was very satisfying.

 

[Red Hawk]

I think bringing back Morrigan is a little bit of fan service since she was one of the most popular characters in the original. Not to mention brining back Varric who was the only character I recall liking from the second.

Since this isn't Mass Effect I'm guessing bioware is going to write the canon for the third however they want. I highly doubt that your previous saves from DA:O or DA2 will affect anything in the third. First, DA3 is on next gen consoles so none of them will have access to their saves. As for PC gamers how many actually still have saves from the previous DA games?

Um, I still have my saves.

I think Varric was the only redeemable NPC in DA2. Isabela wouldn't be awful to show up again, I guess. The rest...well, if the opening cutscene to DA3 shows the rest of the NPC squad mates being pushed off a cliff into a fire...I'd be happy.

That is, if I buy DA3. Which given my thoughts about DA2, is unlikely.

Hey, I happened to like Aveline.

 

[RampantAndroid]

Um, I still have my saves.

Hey, I happened to like Aveline.

Actually, you got me. Liked her, too.

I mainly want to see the elf, the religious archer, the tattooed guy and anders shove off and diaf.

 

[Zenoth]

I was very surprised when I saw Fall 2014 for release. I really was expecting it to be released too soon for this year. If they can take their time (this time around) I'm sure they can easily do better than DA2 (but doing better than DAO will be quite the challenge). I have hopes, it's not ME3's team.

 

[Bateluer]

Hey, I happened to like Aveline.

The only character I hated in DA2 was the emo, Final Fantasy elf fighter. All the other characters had their charms. But Bioware's characters usually do, EA hasn't sucked that from them yet.

 

[{bad}]

i played DA:O as well as DA2 and loved both of them, don;t know why people said DA2 was not good.
i think DA3 will be awesome

 

[frozentundra123456]

i played DA:O as well as DA2 and loved both of them, don;t know why people said DA2 was not good.
i think DA3 will be awesome

I would not say I loved DA2 by any means, but I thought it was OK since I got it for something like 5 or 10 dollars on sale. Some parts of the game were not well done, but if it had come out first instead of after DAO, in might not have been so universally panned.

The game that really turned me off to Bioware was ME3. I will never pre-order a game from Bioware again after that game and somewhat the same feelings about DA2.

I am slightly excited about DA3, but will definitely wait for reviews/price drop.

 

[darkewaffle]

Glad to see Morrigan's back, I'm hoping it ties up some of the Origins/Witch Hunt loose ends. I was a female warden and Morrigan considered me her [only?] true friend, but she left when I wouldn't force Templar guy to have a kid with her, something like that. Then at the end of Witch Hunt she disappeared through the portal or something and was sad to go iirc, but I feel like Morrigan will forever be a wanderer more interested in knowledge and power than anything else.

 

[EDUSAN]

dont spoil it man...im sure people havent played it yet

anyway...good to see morrigan's back... lets see how they "fix" what they did to the story in DA2. I have mixed feelings about this. The story of DAO finished OK, and i dont even remember hwo the story in DA2 finished. A part of me wants Bioware to disregard DA2 and make DA3 following DAO, and a part of me wants DA3 to have both stories meshed together being able to play the grey warden AND the champion.

What is the cannonical ending of DAO?

Spoiler

the grey warden dies and morrigan leaves with his child? i hope they didnt kill MY grey warden, i had sex with morrigan but let the rookie grey warden take the hit of killing the dragon and dying if i remember correctly

 

[Bateluer]

A part of me wants Bioware to disregard DA2 and make DA3 following DAO, and a part of me wants DA3 to have both stories meshed together being able to play the grey warden AND the champion.

DA3 is going to be a continuation of the events in DA2, a full blown war between the mages and templars. They've already said as much, and with a subtitle like 'Inquisition' its pretty obvious.

They've also said the Warden's story is 'done'. :/

 

[EDUSAN]

i cant understand how they could stop the story that was a success towards continuing a story that no one liked.

oh well... ill play it... when its super cheap... like... 0 dollars cheap

 

[darkewaffle]

I liked the Warden story, but at the same time it was Bioware to the bone. It was done pretty well, but not much ingenuity and imo the whole political intrigue side of the story was a mess. I don't think it would hurt them to branch out from the "humble origins, big problem falls into your lap, gather your allies, go to war" archetype.

I think Templars v Mages can be a good scenario, but I think they're going to have to develop both parties a bit more. It's been a while but I seem to remember both sides being largely made up of intolerant douchebags (Templars) or pretentious douchebags (Mages), not sure who to root for there.

 

[Bateluer]

I think Templars v Mages can be a good scenario, but I think they're going to have to develop both parties a bit more. It's been a while but I seem to remember both sides being largely made up of intolerant douchebags (Templars) or pretentious douchebags (Mages), not sure who to root for there.

I agree. The animosity between the mages and templar was set up in DAO, and brought up in Awakening. DA2 just fumbled it, badly.

 

[zerogear]

Bioware burned me twice already. No thanks at a third time.

 

[TallBill]

I'll wait for reviews but dao is probably one of my top 10 all time games.