Dragon Age 3: Inquisition announced

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Dahak

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any idea where I will get all the deluxe edition goodies?

For the Flames of Inquisition Weapons and Armour you will get them in a chest, labeled special deliveries in the house when you wake up in Haven,

The mounts will unlock at the war table once you do a bit of the story.

The throne I guess when you get skyhold, not that far yet
 

Jaydip

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For the Flames of Inquisition Weapons and Armour you will get them in a chest, labeled special deliveries in the house when you wake up in Haven,

The mounts will unlock at the war table once you do a bit of the story.

The throne I guess when you get skyhold, not that far yet

Thanks man, there is a single code for the game and deluxe edition stuff right? I just want to make sure I don't have to activate it via another keycode.
 

Dahak

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Thanks man, there is a single code for the game and deluxe edition stuff right? I just want to make sure I don't have to activate it via another keycode.

Correct only 1 code.

For the soundtrack, its in your DA:I install folder forgot to mention that
 

bystander36

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I decided to pull the trigger on DAI.

Initial impressions:

- Tactical mode is useless.
- Herald not moving to the target is annoying; he just stands there and stabs the air
- Had to rebind Pause and jump. Put the Pause to Space and Jump to Ctrl; must less annoying.
- Cutscenes look choppy as hell, even though my gameplay frame rate doesn't seem much better.
- Game has some annoyingly long load times.
- FRAPS doesn't seem to work in DAI; I don't get a frame rate overlay.
- Ingame benchmark using DX11 and Ultra settings/2x MSAA at 1440p gives me a choppy 28/33 fps. Turning MSAA off entirely jumps it up to 38/47. Using Catalyst 14.9, just installed the 14.11.2s, will see if those offer any improvements.
- Mantle is greyed out for me. I have a 290X, which should work with Mantle. Intel CPU though.

Edit -

Ok, FRAPs now works. As does Mantle, after updating to 14.11.2. But, wtf does it force a windowed mode? No full screen and Mantle? Performance with DX11 at the same settings above was 50/39. Under Mantle, 44/38. Yeah, I'll be going back to DX11, I think.

A few notes about what you've written that you may find helpful:

- tactical mode, once you start to understand how it works, is becoming a lot more useful. You just have to avoid the instinct to try and drive the characters in this mode. In tactical mode, you drive only the camera, you direct the characters.

- I don't know why your Harold stabs at the air. Perhaps you need to click "P" and see what you have selected under the tactics and behavior tabs. My characters all follow the target if they are melee.

- I had the same issue with space and ctrl, but then again, I rebind everything to my G13. I can only assume they did not consider past games at all in deciding how to use the UI. It works, as long as you don't have past preconceptions.

- Cutscenes are a lot better with the 60 FPS work around. It's back a few pages, or simply Goggle it. This 30 FPS thing should not be the default.

- Yeah, load times are long, but then again, there are very few load screens. You get what seems like miles and miles of area before you need to load, which might be why they are long.

- Fraps works for me. It doesn't require windowed mode either. That may be a Mantle version issue.

- The game is demanding. Just turn down some settings. There is no requirement to max out a game, just because the settings exist. MSAA is a big killer, that would be the first one to adjust.

Anyways, the game is good, but it does require some adjustments and time to get into it. Once you get used to it. It is fun.
 

bystander36

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If DA3 is anything even remotely like DA2 then the idea that it could be the best RPG in the last 10 years is utterly laughable at best.

Thanks for the feedback though, sounds like DA3 is basically just DA2, which is to say awful

DA2 has a lot of features that are better than DA Origins. They screwed up with only a few things, which were big; such as their party members not having armor to wear, and having repeating zones everywhere and the details of those zones sucked too. However, the combat and character development was quite good in my opinion, you just had to learn to use the combos and develop around them.

I understand your hate for DA2, but not everything about it was bad. DAI has taken the good parts of DA2 and did not repeat the bad parts. They did, however, decide to reinvent the UI, which people aren't liking, but then you do get used to that, just as we did with NWN and NWN2. Their controls for moving also sucked, more so with NWN2.
 

KeithTalent

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Damn it this thread makes me want to play this game, but I think I have barely even scratched the surface of Origins so it could be a while.

KT
 

Rhezuss

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Damn it this thread makes me want to play this game, but I think I have barely even scratched the surface of Origins so it could be a while.

KT

Origins is really worth it but be prepared for 60+ hours just for the base game. On a personal note, it's the best 60 hours i've spent in a "modern" RPG since Planescape Torment.

Story, character development, choices, combat...everything is really well done.
 

KeithTalent

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Origins is really worth it but be prepared for 60+ hours just for the base game. On a personal note, it's the best 60 hours i've spent in a "modern" RPG since Planescape Torment.

Story, character development, choices, combat...everything is really well done.

Oh no, don't get me wrong, I love the game, I've just been busy so I only get to play in bits and pieces here and there. I just finished the Werewolves story (which was amazing by the way) and I have to imagine that is not very far into the game at all.

I am always just so far behind in playing things, so it would be nice to have the shiny new game to discuss along with you folks.

KT
 

Rhezuss

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Oh no, don't get me wrong, I love the game, I've just been busy so I only get to play in bits and pieces here and there. I just finished the Werewolves story (which was amazing by the way) and I have to imagine that is not very far into the game at all.

I am always just so far behind in playing things, so it would be nice to have the shiny new game to discuss along with you folks.

KT

Hahah I can understand that! I've been through a time where I didn't have much spare time and that made me underappreciate games I played during those few hours a week.

Your call though, buying DA:I right now would still be a good move since the game is really good, but waiting a few weeks will not hurt you much lol
 

bystander36

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Oh no, don't get me wrong, I love the game, I've just been busy so I only get to play in bits and pieces here and there. I just finished the Werewolves story (which was amazing by the way) and I have to imagine that is not very far into the game at all.

I am always just so far behind in playing things, so it would be nice to have the shiny new game to discuss along with you folks.

KT

There 4-5 major quest lines, like the Werewolve story, so depending on whether or not you did those other lines, depends on how far into the game you are. Anyways, don't rush, just play Origins. You might even want to play it a few times before playing Inquisition. You might even consider playing DA2, but only do it after a break from Origins (DA2 was ok on its own, but doesn't compare well to Origins).

If you want to break yourself from replaying Origins, create an Arcane Warrior, which will completely dwarf any other character in power, once you reach your teens. After which, you will be underwhelmed by any new play throughs.
 

poohbear

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man, i kept getting "DirectX Nvidia driver" crashes about 20 hours into this game....turned off SLI and all those crashes disappeared! Also, the flickering textures and stuttering in cinematics all disappeared! but my one GTX 670 can't handle this game in some of the big areas.

Seems SLI is borked, hopefully Nvidia fixes it soon as SLI doubles the FPS....this is the first new release i've bought since forever as i usually wait for SLI optimizations. How can nvidia seriously push SLI if on release most games are borked with it?
 

KeithTalent

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Hahah I can understand that! I've been through a time where I didn't have much spare time and that made me underappreciate games I played during those few hours a week.

Your call though, buying DA:I right now would still be a good move since the game is really good, but waiting a few weeks will not hurt you much lol

Haha, yeah, I'll just tough it out. You know how it is though; got the itch.

There 4-5 major quest lines, like the Werewolve story, so depending on whether or not you did those other lines, depends on how far into the game you are. Anyways, don't rush, just play Origins. You might even want to play it a few times before playing Inquisition. You might even consider playing DA2, but only do it after a break from Origins (DA2 was ok on its own, but doesn't compare well to Origins).

If you want to break yourself from replaying Origins, create an Arcane Warrior, which will completely dwarf any other character in power, once you reach your teens. After which, you will be underwhelmed by any new play throughs.

I don't think I've done those other ones yet, so still a long ways to go, that's not a bad thing though. I will eventually play it again, but I imagine once I play through once, then I will move on to Dragon Age 2, then hit part 3 after that. Although I do like the idea of playing through as a warrior and just being a complete jerk, because I am being such a nice person this first pay through.

KT
 

cytg111

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Playing it now and.. Omg, another crappy console port? What are the odds. acting is meh, story so far is meh and the controls is 2004, the graphics is 2004 and did i mention it lags? Not really during gameplay but every single cutscene lags? Same as with codaw, then it was cutscenes video/audio out of sync. PC gaming is going in the gutter.. future of PC gaming is IGP/APU, nothing is really pushing the highend descrete anymore. Witcher2 was fantastic, maybe come february there will be a reckoning with Witcher3. We need a Crysis4 ballbuster.. this is just meh. MEH !!
 

Mem

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I am always just so far behind in playing things, so it would be nice to have the shiny new game to discuss along with you folks.

KT


Keep on gaming,you may catchup by the time DA4 is out ,so all is not lost .


I do know how you feel I'm busy for next week so no time to game for at least a week and I've my DA:I installed and ready to play.


 

StinkyPinky

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Playing it now and.. Omg, another crappy console port? What are the odds. acting is meh, story so far is meh and the controls is 2004, the graphics is 2004 and did i mention it lags? Not really during gameplay but every single cutscene lags? Same as with codaw, then it was cutscenes video/audio out of sync. PC gaming is going in the gutter.. future of PC gaming is IGP/APU, nothing is really pushing the highend descrete anymore. Witcher2 was fantastic, maybe come february there will be a reckoning with Witcher3. We need a Crysis4 ballbuster.. this is just meh. MEH !!

You just lost any credibility with that statement.
 

cytg111

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- tactical mode, once you start to understand how it works, is becoming a lot more useful. You just have to avoid the instinct to try and drive the characters in this mode. In tactical mode, you drive only the camera, you direct the characters.
- Why fix what wasnt broken, all that rethinking reinventing the wheel coulda gone towards graphics and AI (that first scene when you wake up 3 days later, take any turn around the town, and all ppl are just bowing in the exact same position in what may or may not be your general direction..)

- I don't know why your Harold stabs at the air. Perhaps you need to click "P" and see what you have selected under the tactics and behavior tabs. My characters all follow the target if they are melee.
- I have that issue too .. Then I manually move to target, oh good, stabbing now, presses 1 for a special and WOOOSH off he jumps (bug vs the big demon guy in the temple?).

- Cutscenes are a lot better with the 60 FPS work around. It's back a few pages, or simply Goggle it. This 30 FPS thing should not be the default.
From this I just learned about it. Wtfh.

- The game is demanding. Just turn down some settings. There is no requirement to max out a game, just because the settings exist. MSAA is a big killer, that would be the first one to adjust.
- Demanding from what? Surely not graphics? Surely not AI?

Anyways, the game is good, but it does require some adjustments and time to get into it. Once you get used to it. It is fun.
- I hope the story grows on me otherwise its heading for the "never gonna finish"-pile. (I enjoyed DA1&2 immensley btw)
 

cytg111

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You just lost any credibility with that statement.

Thank you for your opinion, very much appreciated. Have a nice day

And that "Rift", so called "Crystal", looks like something out of an commodore-64 competition.

Better?
 

zinfamous

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It's just fact. You're not comfortable with a keyboard and mouse setup thats why.

no it's not. I played through the first Batman game with KB&M, and while it is certainly doable, one misses out on some ~20% of the gameplay, with regard to various combos that you can perform. I mean...unless you have like 12" long fingers...and maybe 6 fingers on each hand.

do you?

I liken Batman to being playable on KB&M, but neutered. Gamepad is better overall.

I started playing AC II some two or three years ago, very briefly, with KB &M. I stopped playing after about 4 minutes when I realized it was effing impossible to get that stupid infant to wiggle his toes using the on-screen prompts...and then when I figured out which button mapped to which very non-helpful action icon on the prompt, I realized that they were mapped all over the place.

This, after having played AC 1 some years or so earlier, on my PS3. I'm now playing through AC II, finally, near the end and on the gamepad. SO much better.

I liken AC games to be completely unplayable on KB&M.

I haven't played a console game in roughly 7 years, now. Not once. I much prefer KB&M overall, but it really is an objective fact that some games just don't translate to the interface.
 

bystander36

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- Why fix what wasnt broken, all that rethinking reinventing the wheel coulda gone towards graphics and AI (that first scene when you wake up 3 days later, take any turn around the town, and all ppl are just bowing in the exact same position in what may or may not be your general direction..)

You can whine, or adjust, it's up to you. I would rather have had them not change what worked, but they did. You can get used to it.


- I have that issue too .. Then I manually move to target, oh good, stabbing now, presses 1 for a special and WOOOSH off he jumps (bug vs the big demon guy in the temple?).
Perhaps it's a tactical vs normal mode deal.


- Demanding from what? Surely not graphics? Surely not AI?
It is a lot more graphically demanding than most games. It is more demanding than it's predecessors. You may or may not like the graphics, but there is a lot going on. Whether they could have "optimized" it better or not, doesn't matter. It is graphically demanding.


- I hope the story grows on me otherwise its heading for the "never gonna finish"-pile. (I enjoyed DA1&2 immensley btw)

I can understand this if you have got lost in the Hinterlands or some of the side quests. They do not direct you down a clear path like the previous games. However, if you jump on the primary quest line, and avoid most the side quests, you'll start to catch on.

This game has a lot of Skyrim in it. As in, there is a lot of open world, sand box play, if you choose. Unlike previous DA games, you do have to decide to focus if you want to stick with the story. No more are the days of searching every corner of the game. It is a LOT bigger now, so don't get lost.
 
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