Dress Code in Texas

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beer

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Preyhunter
Beer is spot on with his description.

I think the dress code rules exist primarily to eliminate the wannabe gangsters and the whores from flaunting their ignorance while at school. All of the others will adhere to the rules because they will be dressed to the nines in all of the latest designer clothes.

Don't know if it's still true, but Plano (close to Frisco) had the highest rate of teen suicide in the country. I guess the competition must be fierce.

For a man with 474 posts in four years, I definitely appreciate your post. I really don't think anyone posting in this thread knows quite what they're talking about. Dress code will be the least of the concerns once you realize the firestorm you've just walked into.

When I was a senior I dated a girl who befriended a couple of German exchange students. She had travelled to Spain for the summer and really began to understand, if not embrace, the culture. To them, the culture shock was nothing less than ruthless.

America did not become incredibly wealthy by sitting on your ass. Most people that you will meet will have parents that work incredibly hard at what they do. Ruthless corporations breed ruthless employees.
And, to be honest, I didn't quite understand why until this summer, as a junior in college, where I am working for one of the Fortune Ten companies that sells product roughly equal to the entire GDP of Africa as a continent. The people I work with are incredibly smart, from upper management on downwards (contrary to the Dilbert Prinicple), at what they do, but everyone is just brutal, and these are the kind of people who are the parents of those you will be around. I work with a guy that used to live in NYC in the 80s, had a $2400/mo apt that was not even a big expense, and who went around and was an efficiency analyst for warehouses - fired tens of thousands of blue-collar workers and would do it in sixteen or twenty hour shifts to the point where he ended up in the hosptital after doing this for years.
 

GroundZero

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Originally posted by: aylanl4
I'm pretty sure that the dress code is strict. But I also didn't go to high school in Texas, let alone in the past 9 yrs (has it been that long??). But I am pretty sure that they would be strict about it. I'll check w/ my bf once he gets back from the Academy today, since he went to school in Richardson, which is actually quite close to Frisco.


try 19 years since highschool for this kid.
hell that means that i've been out of school longer than most of the atoters out there! lmao!
 

Pliablemoose

Lifer
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LOL, Knarkarplanka, welcome to the bible thumpin Baptists of the South.

They're serious as hell about the dress codes, and stay away from the meth addicts & heroin users.

You wouldn't believe what kids were wearing before the dress codes came about.

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Excelsior

Lifer
May 30, 2002
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Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Originally posted by: brigden
Yet Americans bitch and moan when in Europe that no one speaks english. I love it.
Only idiots would complain about that. You go to Germany, you should either speak German or stick tight to your tourist group.

Texas is pretty conservative. While interesting that you can wear whatever you want at your school, it looks like your SOL in Texas. Suck it up and deal with it. You can say you've been to Texas, which is a lot more than a lot of the folks who like to make fun of it.

Since you're not from America, you'll probably be messed with quite a bit unless you're really big. I wouldn't bring more attention to yourself by getting into any heated political debates.

Not quite. I can't speak german all that well, and my dad and I got around just fine. I found most people between the ages of ~14 and ~35 speak English quite well (for a non-native speaker).
 

Rent

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Originally posted by: beer
OK, so I graduated in 2002 from the district immediately south of Frisco, Plano @ Plano West Senior High. I don't think the biggest shock will be conservativeness, because for the most part it isn't readily apperant. Most high-schoolers aren't informed enough of political orientations and don't care enough to have solid opinions.

I will say that the biggest culture shock will be not politics, but money. Dallas suburbs, moreso Plano than Frisco but still to an extent, are all about FSCKING MONEY. The culture promotes everyone trying to one-up everyone else. Money is everything in north Dallas, and you will definitely see it. Frisco, Plano, Allen, and to a lesser extent Richardson, are all new cities. They are built on a grid. Everything is going to be four lanes wide, turn lanes, huge blocks of stores and commercial seperated from endless miles of residental development. They are the definition of true, uncontrolled urban sprawl. You will be far enough north of Dallas to never really be able to go there, and you will be stuck in suburban hell. Nor would you want to, Dallas has a crime problem that exceeds the per-capita crime of New York City by a factor of about four. But back to Suburban hell - that is to say, everything will be closing at about 9 PM, except for the occasional Starbucks an Ihop. Oh, and at the intersection of 121 and Preston, which you will undoubtably spend your weekends at, you will have five (5) starbucks within about a 1 mile radius - 3 in Stonebriar mall, one across near the Office Max, and one to the north behind Krispy Creme.

People will be incredibly fscking materialistic. It isn't about clothes, or fashion, or attitude, it is about MONEY. MONEY to have the latest cars, MONEY to have the biggest house that can be reaosnably afforded, and since the kids grow up under that environment, it rubs off on them too. It is the basis to not only be judge, but to judge others - or so is the mindset.

Part of the culture will be that 'there is never enough of anything.' You go to restaurants, you will get a 12" wide plate covered with food. You go to the mall, there will be thousands of empty parking spaces. The Homeowners Group that your host family will belong to will try to micromanage every part of their house, because there can never be enough power. The parents of the kids you will be around will work their ass off, 16 hours a day, because its more money and more success.

Dallas suburbs (norther ones at least)aren't really about the right to bear arms everywhere you go or to commend GWB at every moment. It is about the fact that people are going to be greedy as hell.

And if, for any moment you think I'm even remotely exaggerating, wait until you get there and head on down south about two miles, straight down Preston Road, and hang a right on Parker.

Have fun. Moving out of Plano was the best thing I ever did. Parents move to Dallas suburbs primarily out of job relocation, and it keeps expanding north, north, north, and there is no end to the development in sight although in Frisco you are already about 90 minutes north of downtown Dallas. Very few of your peers will have been there from 1st grade or preschool, they will all have relocated from other states. The companies that their parents work for expand in Texas because Texas has very leniant business tax laws - it attracts greedy corporations, which hire and attract greedy professionals.

I don't think you will care about the dress code once you arrive. I really don't.

Most of this is accurate, a bit exaggerated, but accurate.

I went through PISD as well. There was a fair amout of bank wars with some of the students. I honestly didn't give a flying fvck and was thereby an outsider to the jock/prep crew. Cliques are very defined, so just know where you stand and hold your ground and you'll be alright.

Where I work, we have high school student interns (mostly kids of management) and yes, they're pretty superficial. I wouldn't worry too much about the dress code, when I went through they didn't crack down too hard on it unless it was extremely blatant you were breaking it. They usually bust down more on the girls cause they're just so into all the nice realing clothes

As far as all the comments about people being conservative here, yeah, its true for the most part. However, if you're respectful and don't start sh!t, then you won't have a problem.
 
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Originally posted by: Knarkarplanka
Originally posted by: aylanl4
I'm pretty sure that the dress code is strict. But I also didn't go to high school in Texas, let alone in the past 9 yrs (has it been that long??). But I am pretty sure that they would be strict about it. I'll check w/ my bf once he gets back from the Academy today, since he went to school in Richardson, which is actually quite close to Frisco.

I´d love it if you could do that

OK when I went to school way back when, we could not wear hats. The jeans thing is kinda per person basis. holes were premitted as long as they were not huge and frayed badly. Other clothing would just be no "jap flaps" Flip-flops, hat's, bandanas, shirts with profanity or graphic pictures (ie nudity, violence ect.)
 

Pliablemoose

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Oct 11, 1999
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Beer is pretty well spot on, I live South of Dallas, & have lived in TX for >10 years, moved here from a more liberal state, there are a few liberals, not a big deal about politics.

I suspect you'll lose your tongue piercing, but you'll be a novelty here, enjoy yourself...

Which student exchange program are you working with?
 

beer

Lifer
Jun 27, 2000
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Rent -

When I graduate with a 3.97 GPA and am out of the top 10% of my PWSH class, I don't think I'm exaggerating one bit. I kick ass at UT now from actually being challenged in high school, but a 3.97 almost didn't get me into Texas, and if I had graduated in 2003, probably wouldn't have (judging from the numbers I saw on this year's applicants from West)
 

digitalsm

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Jul 11, 2003
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Originally posted by: beer
Rent -

When I graduate with a 3.97 GPA and am out of the top 10% of my PWSH class, I don't think I'm exaggerating one bit. I kick ass at UT now from actually being challenged in high school, but a 3.97 almost didn't get me into Texas, and if I had graduated in 2003, probably wouldn't have (judging from the numbers I saw on this year's applicants from West)

I wouldnt say you are exaggerating. Its pretty much dead on, but its like this for all of Texas' major cities, not just Dallas and Fort Worth, but Houston, San Antonio and Austin as well. Theres been an extrodinary amount of personal wealth created in Texas over the past decade.
 

ShOcKwAvE827

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I came out of PISD also. From your post beer, I thank God I went to Plano East. I don't think I saw much of anything you are talking about. I try not to venture more west than Custer if I can help it
 

Chaotic42

Lifer
Jun 15, 2001
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Originally posted by: Excelsior
Not quite. I can't speak german all that well, and my dad and I got around just fine. I found most people between the ages of ~14 and ~35 speak English quite well (for a non-native speaker).
Well, that's fine, but you shouldn't expect everyone everywhere to speak English, which was my point. I have no right to complain if I go to Mongolia and can't communicate with the locals. It's my own fault for not being prepared.
 

nmcglennon

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Jul 19, 2002
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Don't woory about the dress code or corporal punishment unless you are the kid trying to burn the school down. I went to school in the DFW area (Arlington actually), and noone was ever subjucated to dress code requirements unless the girls were practically topless or you could see their thongs through their very short skirts. I never complained though.
 

nmcglennon

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Jul 19, 2002
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Originally posted by: beer
OK, so I graduated in 2002 from the district immediately south of Frisco, Plano @ Plano West Senior High. I don't think the biggest shock will be conservativeness, because for the most part it isn't readily apperant. Most high-schoolers aren't informed enough of political orientations and don't care enough to have solid opinions.

I will say that the biggest culture shock will be not politics, but money. Dallas suburbs, moreso Plano than Frisco but still to an extent, are all about FSCKING MONEY. The culture promotes everyone trying to one-up everyone else. Money is everything in north Dallas, and you will definitely see it. Frisco, Plano, Allen, and to a lesser extent Richardson, are all new cities. They are built on a grid. Everything is going to be four lanes wide, turn lanes, huge blocks of stores and commercial seperated from endless miles of residental development. They are the definition of true, uncontrolled urban sprawl. You will be far enough north of Dallas to never really be able to go there, and you will be stuck in suburban hell. Nor would you want to, Dallas has a crime problem that exceeds the per-capita crime of New York City by a factor of about four. But back to Suburban hell - that is to say, everything will be closing at about 9 PM, except for the occasional Starbucks an Ihop. Oh, and at the intersection of 121 and Preston, which you will undoubtably spend your weekends at, you will have five (5) starbucks within about a 1 mile radius - 3 in Stonebriar mall, one across near the Office Max, and one to the north behind Krispy Creme.

People will be incredibly fscking materialistic. It isn't about clothes, or fashion, or attitude, it is about MONEY. MONEY to have the latest cars, MONEY to have the biggest house that can be reaosnably afforded, and since the kids grow up under that environment, it rubs off on them too. It is the basis to not only be judge, but to judge others - or so is the mindset.

Part of the culture will be that 'there is never enough of anything.' You go to restaurants, you will get a 12" wide plate covered with food. You go to the mall, there will be thousands of empty parking spaces. The Homeowners Group that your host family will belong to will try to micromanage every part of their house, because there can never be enough power. The parents of the kids you will be around will work their ass off, 16 hours a day, because its more money and more success.

Dallas suburbs (norther ones at least)aren't really about the right to bear arms everywhere you go or to commend GWB at every moment. It is about the fact that people are going to be greedy as hell.

And if, for any moment you think I'm even remotely exaggerating, wait until you get there and head on down south about two miles, straight down Preston Road, and hang a right on Parker.

Have fun. Moving out of Plano was the best thing I ever did. Parents move to Dallas suburbs primarily out of job relocation, and it keeps expanding north, north, north, and there is no end to the development in sight although in Frisco you are already about 90 minutes north of downtown Dallas. Very few of your peers will have been there from 1st grade or preschool, they will all have relocated from other states. The companies that their parents work for expand in Texas because Texas has very leniant business tax laws - it attracts greedy corporations, which hire and attract greedy professionals.

I don't think you will care about the dress code once you arrive. I really don't.

Very accurate. Same when I was in HS in a south Arlington.
 

nmcglennon

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Originally posted by: beer
Rent -

When I graduate with a 3.97 GPA and am out of the top 10% of my PWSH class, I don't think I'm exaggerating one bit. I kick ass at UT now from actually being challenged in high school, but a 3.97 almost didn't get me into Texas, and if I had graduated in 2003, probably wouldn't have (judging from the numbers I saw on this year's applicants from West)

I go to UT now also. When did you graduate?
 

beer

Lifer
Jun 27, 2000
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Originally posted by: nmcglennon
Originally posted by: beer
Rent -

When I graduate with a 3.97 GPA and am out of the top 10% of my PWSH class, I don't think I'm exaggerating one bit. I kick ass at UT now from actually being challenged in high school, but a 3.97 almost didn't get me into Texas, and if I had graduated in 2003, probably wouldn't have (judging from the numbers I saw on this year's applicants from West)

I go to UT now also. When did you graduate?

PWSH, May 02
Texas, (hopefully) May 06
 

Rent

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Originally posted by: beer
Rent -

When I graduate with a 3.97 GPA and am out of the top 10% of my PWSH class, I don't think I'm exaggerating one bit. I kick ass at UT now from actually being challenged in high school, but a 3.97 almost didn't get me into Texas, and if I had graduated in 2003, probably wouldn't have (judging from the numbers I saw on this year's applicants from West)

Uh ok dude. Sure thing. I'm glad your GPA and Class Rank make your ability to judge life so much better.

:roll:

You make it sounds like a fvcking TV show. Its real life. It goes on, its not some soap opera.

To the op : Don't wade too deep in the bullsh!t in this thread.
 

RagingBITCH

Lifer
Sep 27, 2003
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Originally posted by: beer
Rent -

When I graduate with a 3.97 GPA and am out of the top 10% of my PWSH class, I don't think I'm exaggerating one bit. I kick ass at UT now from actually being challenged in high school, but a 3.97 almost didn't get me into Texas, and if I had graduated in 2003, probably wouldn't have (judging from the numbers I saw on this year's applicants from West)

Um, would you like a pat on the back for your 3.97 gpa? Almost didn't you into Texas? What the hell are you smoking? HB 588 guaranteed you that right into Texas.

Oh and I got admitted to Texas and A&M back in 99 with a top 25% (top 25% is just a way of saying in the 25th percentile ) ranking and a 3.3 GPA. Don't act like it's hard to get into, because I know flunkies and others with worse who made it into UT without trying. It's not Harvard.
 

beer

Lifer
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Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Um, would you like a pat on the back for your 3.97 gpa? Almost didn't you into Texas? What the hell are you smoking? HB 588 guaranteed you that right into Texas.

No, sorry, it didn't since I wasn't top 10%. The graduates May 03 were being turned away from ECE because of enrollment cutbacks. As far as I know, no one with a GPA < 4.0 coming from my HS was accepted beccause there were just too, many, people, coming from it - in 02 I was one of about 85, I think that number was 90 in May 03 while enrollment was cut by about 1000. I think the top 10% cutoff was about 4.02 and no one that I have met of the 03 grads was admitted without bein top 10%

I don't know about the 04 numbers, since HS/senior HS are done in grades of two, so I would only ever know those one year older and those one year younger.
 

digitalsm

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Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Originally posted by: beer
Rent -

When I graduate with a 3.97 GPA and am out of the top 10% of my PWSH class, I don't think I'm exaggerating one bit. I kick ass at UT now from actually being challenged in high school, but a 3.97 almost didn't get me into Texas, and if I had graduated in 2003, probably wouldn't have (judging from the numbers I saw on this year's applicants from West)

Um, would you like a pat on the back for your 3.97 gpa? Almost didn't you into Texas? What the hell are you smoking? HB 588 guaranteed you that right into Texas.

Oh and I got admitted to Texas and A&amp;M back in 99 with a top 25% (top 25% is just a way of saying in the 25th percentile ) ranking and a 3.3 GPA. Don't act like it's hard to get into, because I know flunkies and others with worse who made it into UT without trying. It's not Harvard.

It actually depends. UT had denied admission to people with 3.9 while taking people with 3.0. If you arent in the top 10 its not a sure thing. UT doesnt opt in to the optional part of 588 allowing the top 25% of high school grads in, and is actually wanting to do away with automatically accepting everyone in the top 10%. They only want to accept the top 10% until they reach 50% of their freshmen class.

Basically the way it works now is, they take the top 10% of each high school and people who are disadvantaged socio-economically. If you arent in the top 10% of your class at a rich high school; your shot at going to UT is drastically reduced. Although its easy to transfer.

You are right though UT isnt difficult to get into. It all depends on your background/school district.
 

RagingBITCH

Lifer
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Originally posted by: beer
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Um, would you like a pat on the back for your 3.97 gpa? Almost didn't you into Texas? What the hell are you smoking? HB 588 guaranteed you that right into Texas.

No, sorry, it didn't since I wasn't top 10%. The graduates May 03 were being turned away from ECE because of enrollment cutbacks. As far as I know, no one with a GPA < 4.0 coming from my HS was accepted beccause there were just too, many, people, coming from it - in 02 I was one of about 85, I think that number was 90 in May 03 while enrollment was cut by about 1000. I think the top 10% cutoff was about 4.02 and no one that I have met of the 03 grads was admitted without bein top 10%

I don't know about the 04 numbers, since HS/senior HS are done in grades of two, so I would only ever know those one year older and those one year younger.

oops my bad - I read you were IN the top 10, not out of, my mistake. ECE = electrical/computer engineering school? I was doing CS at the time and it seemed like a walk in the park to get in.
 
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