I'm sure that if we had photos of the ones railing on cyclists we'd see that it's been a _long_ time since they'd been on a bike. Or gotten much of any exercise, for that matter.
All it takes is for someone to mention cyclists and we get a hundred people on this board joking about killing cyclists. Explains a lot...
I don't think he intended to "cut him off," I think he presumed that once passed (even if poorly) the other person would slow down. It was clearly obvious to the cyclist that the minivan driver was turning right and had his signals on especially once he started moving right. And in most states the bicyclist is legally wrong also.
I'm siding with the driver. He had cleared the cyclist and signaled. He just didn't merge into the bike lane before initiating the turn. Yes, he should have done that first, but the cyclist was being a d-bag.
Thanks for this. I have virtually no experience driving where there are bike lanes and this video had me wondering what the proper method was.
I'm siding with the driver. He had cleared the cyclist and signaled. He just didn't merge into the bike lane before initiating the turn. Yes, he should have done that first, but the cyclist was being a d-bag.
And if the bike was a car, the minivan driver would have still been in the right? Or would he have cut off the car?
You know that diagram doesn't represent how close the driver was to the cyclist when he cut in front of him, right? And why do you need the diagram when a bike lane is no different than another car lane?
You're not a troll, just a moron.
At some point, you kinda have to stop and think "why all the hate towards cyclists?". It probably stemmed from personal experiences with cyclists in one form or another. But, you guys don't stop, so there are no deep thoughts...All it takes is for someone to mention cyclists and we get a hundred people on this board joking about killing cyclists. Explains a lot...
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I don't think he intended to "cut him off," I think he presumed that once passed (even if poorly) the other person would slow down. It was clearly obvious to the cyclist that the minivan driver was turning right and had his signals on especially once he started moving right. And in most states the bicyclist is legally wrong also.
You have illustrated that the van driver is wrong, imo.
He does not merge into the bike lane and then turn, he simply turns with the bike right there next to him.
Van driver should have slowed, allowing the bike to go ahead, merged into the now clear bike lane, and then turned into the parking lot.
My philosophy is that in a situation like this, I'll always side against the person who did not take advantage of the last (not first) opportunity to avoid being an asshole to someone else. If the roles had been reversed and it was the bicyclist cutting off the minivan driver who in turn didn't slow down for him or pass to the left, I would have found the minivan driver most at fault.
Your philosophy makes no sense. If I walked up to you and punched you in the face, and then we got into a fist fight, I'd still be at fault for punching you in the face.
EDIT: another example, if the USA got nuked and then retaliated by nuking the offending country, by your logic the situation was the USA's fault.
of course he was - he was riding in the bicycle lane where he was legally allowed to ride. that's like, 10/10 on the douche scale. I bet he was wearing spandex too.
of course he was - he was riding in the bicycle lane where he was legally allowed to ride. that's like, 10/10 on the douche scale. I bet he was wearing spandex too.
And if the bike was a car, the minivan driver would have still been in the right? Or would he have cut off the car?
You know that diagram doesn't represent how close the driver was to the cyclist when he cut in front of him, right? And why do you need the diagram when a bike lane is no different than another car lane?
You're not a troll, just a moron.
I particularly like how he sides with the driver, when the diagram that shows WRONG is exactly what the minivan did.
I can assure you that I assumed no such thing and that your assumption of such is wildly inaccurate.
His philosophy makes perfect sense. It's called not participating in road rage. If I apply your examples to driving, if someone cuts me off I now need to speed around him and cut him off.
lol that's not the extension of my examples. the extension of my example is that if you cut someone off, its your fault for cutting them off.
Your philosophy makes no sense. If I walked up to you and punched you in the face, and then we got into a fist fight, I'd still be at fault for punching you in the face.
EDIT: another example, if the USA got nuked and then retaliated by nuking the offending country, by your logic the situation was the USA's fault.
It's more like some pedestrian cuts in front of you walking on the sidewalk and starts shadow boxing. We can both agree he was wrong and rude to cut you off that way and is doing something stupid even now in thrashing his arms that way. However, given that statement should you in turn: (A) walk around him, or (B) continue walking forward directly into the path of his fists even though you have a "right to use the sidewalk"? And if you did, whose fault would the fistfight be?
:awe:LOL @ all you idiots sharing your concern over cyclists. Fuck 'em.
You see, I'm a rider. My skills are incapable of being constrained by your nanny-state rules. I'm looooong gone by the time any of you fatties can claw your way out of your nine year old, off-brown Hyundai's to screech at me with the three spittle tinged school-yard expletives you remember. I can stop traffic with a stare at the same time I'm arousing your wife with my spandex enshrined glutes of peace. I ride unencumbered through intersections with a gleam in my eye, enjoying the breeze in my hair, while you nearly faint from the panic of hoping you can (unlike the decades lost control of your sphincter) still control your braking foot with what's left of your McFlurry addled brain. While you're rushing home to your children who hate you, I'm out for a ride on a bike forged by the will of God's.
Point taken. My opinion is the cyclist still has some fault. He had time to slow down and avoid the situation but he decided not to.
This whole situation is a string of stupidity by both parties.
Given that, is the bike guy upset the van didn't merge into the bike lane prior to the turn, or is it that he had to slow down because of a vehicle in the bike lane?
I wonder if cyclist hate per country matches with obesity rate per country?:awe:
Is cyclist hate an American thing?
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Is cyclist hate an American thing?
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Is cyclist hate an American thing?
hate is an American thing.