Driving is Truely a Privilege that Sucks You Know What

[s0me0nesmind1]

Not only are they prepared, they can't wait for it to happen. They can pocket all the money that would normally go to the driver. The cars can sit in strategically positioned warehouses (saving gas/electricity) and get summoned the moment someone requests a ride. They'll have a subscription that people pay monthly for. Get a car when you need it, no worries about parking or tickets or insurance/inspections/emissions/etc. It'll be Netflix for cars.

Only question is what about gas refills? If it's all done in warehouses they would need to be prepared with warehouses all over the city. There are times when people such as myself can't wait 30 minutes for the cab to arrive - and knowing my city getting across town is an hour at least.

 

[cabri]

How much time does the park & ride system soak up in a day? In my area we do have park and rides, though it's an added 30-45 minute trip when stopping as multiple stops.

Park & ride may add time ; depending on how efficient the ride is.

But the lack of wear/tear on the vehicle and body more than makes up for it.
You can use your park/ride time efficiently vs monitoring traffic.

You also do not have the parking issue at your destination.

 

[Red Storm]

Only question is what about gas refills? If it's all done in warehouses they would need to be prepared with warehouses all over the city. There are times when people such as myself can't wait 30 minutes for the cab to arrive - and knowing my city getting across town is an hour at least.

By the time a fully automated setup like this is possible, there will be more electric cars. Or they'll simply make a deal to go electric only cars, which will be charging as they wait in the warehouse. The consumer never has to worry about fill-ups.

Not having to pay for gas, insurance, maintenance, inspections, etc. and not having to worry about parking/housing the car either at your own home or at your destination is going to be a huge draw for many people.

 

[Regs]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SwK8Dzro9I

Some people can get away with running a red light and cutting off a cop...

They are never there when you need them. If that where me in the taxi I would have just started crying when the cop pulled me over. <edited for grammar>

I have seen that so many times and even now, people are so trained to wait one second on a green arrow because they expect someone do to that. People don't understand that there is a reason why the guy is driving defensive and waiting to turn on a green arrow. So they honk at the poor bastard for pausing on a green arrow. Funny thing is, if a cop wanted to be a dick, he will cite you for holding up traffic or you were distracted at the green arrow. <removed for sake of a long argument>

Though for someone here on this forum, who lives not in NJ (won't name name's) lives in a utopia where cops don't exist and drives perfectly. Almost as if he is seeing the world only in his perspective or delusion.

 

[rh71]

^ regardless of who you're referring to, do you fail to recognize NJ is one of the most strict states anyone's ever driven in? Obviously the root of your issues is your location, which is what someone else pointed out.

Anytime I'm on the Palisades, everyone's on the right and doing the speed limit. It's amazing they don't choose to catch more people on the Turnpike.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Ding ding ding. Don't buy new. Learn to do regular maintenance yourself. Don't live in the city.

Show me someone who hates to drive. Ill show you a congested city, or someone who has to commute a long way in rush hour traffic.

Show me someone who wants to ban guns. Ill show you someone who lives in a city and can't understand why rural people who use them for hunting/nuisance control/personal protection.

Show me someone who hates steaks. Ill show you someone who probably cooks it well done.

You couldn't pay me to change the oil on my car myself let alone do any of the other maintenance. I'll change wiper blades and air filters but that's about it.

I could do other forms of maintenance, I just don't want to.

I'd rather wrench on my motorcycle than fuck around with the cage.

By the way, you also couldn't pay me to live in New Jersey.

 

[AdamK47]

Anger management classes will fix most of your problems. It will also improve your driving experiences.

 

[jaha2000]

The east coast in general has some of the worst drivers in the US. Not only are people super rude, they have no clue how to keep traffic flowing insisting on cutting people off and generally being aholes.

Michigan might have some downside, but people here know how to drive. True of the midwest in general outside of Chicago and Detroit.

 

[Regs]

Anger management classes will fix most of your problems. It will also improve your driving experiences.

:twisted:()

 

[stockwiz]

Traffic in high density metro areas is ridiculous. I live in eastern South Dakota and would not want to own and drive a car in a city like Chicago... just stoplights irritate the hell out of me... how people can sit there and wait 90 seconds to 2 minutes at one single light and then go across 20-30 or more lights to get to their destination with say 1/4 of them being red at any given time boggles my mind. Rush hour in even small cities... forget it. Lunch hour too.

I like living in a place I can put on the cruise on the interstate and just drive... and I do live in such a place.... however I can handle metro areas of larger cities, I just wouldn't want to have to live in one and commute through a lot of traffic and into the cities themselves every day. My commute is 2.5 miles give or take, and takes all of 6-9 minutes depending on time of day.

Milwaukee Metro area sized place is fine by me... where I used to live.. any larger no thanks.

 

[ultimatebob]

^ regardless of who you're referring to, do you fail to recognize NJ is one of the most strict states anyone's ever driven in? Obviously the root of your issues is your location, which is what someone else pointed out.

Anytime I'm on the Palisades, everyone's on the right and doing the speed limit. It's amazing they don't choose to catch more people on the Turnpike.

I've never had any problems on the Jersey Turnpike. I-84 in New York, on the other hand.... speed trap hell.

 

[monkeydelmagico]

Thank goodness the ghost was clear or things could have been so much worse.

"Gozer the Gozerian, good evening. As a duly designated representative of the city, county and state of New York, I order you to cease any and all supernatural activity and return forthwith to your place of origin or to the nearest convenient parallel dimension." -- Dr. Raymond Stanz (Dan Aykroyd)

 

[CoPhotoGuy]

It wasn't like I skidded across the intersection.

Obviously I could of been more careful -- but when you drive in areas when you are accustom to seeing certain signs and when they are not there -- it's not fair to say "you should of known better". I definitely could of been more aware and careful giving the speed limit of 35 with the big red do not enter signs on the other side of the road, so I can't argue that. This is why I am not going to contest it.

So you were speeding too? If you were going the speed limit, then you probably would have seen the signs in time.

Oh, and yeah if you don't use your turn signal properly the screw you. I hate people who don't use their turn signals.

 

[KLin]

#firstworldproblems

 

[K1052]

Traffic in high density metro areas is ridiculous. I live in eastern South Dakota and would not want to own and drive a car in a city like Chicago... just stoplights irritate the hell out of me... how people can sit there and wait 90 seconds to 2 minutes at one single light and then go across 20-30 or more lights to get to their destination with say 1/4 of them being red at any given time boggles my mind.

The beauty of it is that you don't need to. Between walking/public trans/uber/taxi I can move around pretty efficiently.

 

[John Connor]

Take note kids - your perception on driving changes as you get older.

I just got a stupid careless driving ticket, one that could likely be dismissed if I took a online defensive driving course. Though this tipped me off on how crappy and truly aggravating owning a car could be and put me in a deep but erratic state of thought.

One -- it's expensive -- Everywhere you go with it, especially in Jersey, people want your god damn money because you have it. Parking? 15 an hour easily. Parking not in a private garage that won't charge you dearly in the major cities around me will get you toed, booted, and fined. Tolls -- FU -- I wish I could paddle the Hudson with a row boat and paddle with my middle fingers extended. Going to a School? Best be sure to shell out a huge amount of money for a parking permit.

Two -- traffic laws are ludicrous -- don't use your turn signal less than 100 feet before turning is points and fine (and you better count those god damn feet), squeak your tires is careless (aside from burning rubber which I agree is reckless), license plate holder from dealership obscured the plate is a fine, and basically every law ever written and seen enforced -- and you should visit a traffic law forum for entertainment mind you -- will have you driving on egg shells for the fear of being in Jail and spending millions for an attorney for driving what would be described by a judge in your hearing as a homicidal death machine. I am not saying I ever gotten anyone of those tickets, this one careless driving ticket after 20 years of driving is it. I just sympathize for people who have to deal with frivolous townships.

Three -- Maintenance is a bitch. They don't work past 100k miles without paying a few grand on parts that are built to fail

Four -- You are pit up against the people who drive in Mad Max on the road and all who want to wreck you and rape your children on your way to work.

Five -- We can no longer afford to build roads. It's true. We build houses cause the state don't have to spend money to build houses. THEY ZONE SHIT AND THEN TELL YOU TO SIT STILL FOR 2-8HRS Before getting to work before committing murder suicide on your employees.




AND I ALWAYS WANTED A FUCKING YELLOW CORVETTE

Vote democrat again! It's your only hope! :twisted:

 

[pete6032]

Milwaukee Metro area sized place is fine by me... where I used to live.. any larger no thanks.

94 gets kind of crummy during rush hour. Same with 43.

 

[Red Squirrel]

First time I hear of the 100ft rule for signalling. How does that work if the road you just got on has an intersection less than 100ft from where you just turned? Ex: like this:

https://www.google.ca/maps/place/Ti...2!3m1!1s0x4d3ca5dd51cd3fcd:0x77f8e96afeea9c76

Ex: if you are going southbound and turn right and want to go south again. You can't signal the 2nd time for 100ft.

But yeah car ownership is more of a need than a want imo. Depending on how close you are from work, grocery store, and other essential places you can almost get away without one. But otherwise you don't really have a choice. If you are smart about it and buy used AND obey traffic laws it's not really that expensive to own so it's nice to have as you are less restricted in where you can go. I paid about 5k for my car several years ago and put a bit over 1k of repairs into it. I pay about $160 in insurance per month but that includes the house, and since I don't drive a lot I fill up the tank maybe once a month so that's about $60. So really it's not expensive enough that it's a hassle.

If I lived in a big city like Toronto on the other hand, screw that noise, I can't imagine driving in a place like that. Too much traffic and it takes forever to get anywhere.

 

[Sabrewings]

Three -- Maintenance is a bitch. They don't work past 100k miles without paying a few grand on parts that are built to fail

The rest sound like you live in a crappy part of the country (you said Jersey, so yeah). For this one, fix it yourself. I've gotten to where I do all of my own vehicle maintenance all the way down to engine and tranny rebuilds, even AC servicing. No one will ever care about your stuff as much as you do.

Because of it, I spend less than $600 a year on fluids and parts on two cars that are paid off. One is even 16 years old and I have no qualms taking it on a several hours road trip to the beach in a couple weeks. Knowledge is power, and having the knowledge to troubleshoot and repair a vehicle takes the power out of crummy shop owners.

 

[Sabrewings]

You couldn't pay me to change the oil on my car myself let alone do any of the other maintenance. I'll change wiper blades and air filters but that's about it.

I could do other forms of maintenance, I just don't want to.

I'd rather wrench on my motorcycle than fuck around with the cage.

Understandable, but for me it's a pride thing. No one touches my cars so no one else is to blame for a problem but me. I'm an aircraft mechanic, so cars are child's play and simple in comparison. The only thing I don't like about doing heavy maintenance is a time table if the vehicle is required to be running soon. It wasn't a problem when we had three cars, but I sold my weekend toy a few months ago so now it puts some pressure on again.

Luckily my job is very flexible and I can burn a few weeks of time off at will if necessary to work on something major. Haven't had to yet, but it's there. The wife is going to quit her job in the spring, so we'll be back to having an extra car and I can pull out my mule's engine and finally fix its slight oil consumption problem. Probable do a whole rebuild of it, blue print it as well, and refresh a lot of the electricals.

 

[LTC8K6]

The police don't hassle you about minor stuff where I live. Traffic is rarely a problem. You have to do something that's really over the line to get a ticket.

The city cops are a little more likely to bother you than the county deputies.

Chirping your tires, gunning it to hear your V8 or turbo, or burning rubber now and then won't generate a ticket unless you are stupid and do it in front of the school or something like that.

My one ticket in 25 years was for going way over the speed limit, and even then the judge let me off with no points and only court costs.

 

[pcgeek11]

The east coast in general has some of the worst drivers in the US. Not only are people super rude, they have no clue how to keep traffic flowing insisting on cutting people off and generally being aholes.

Michigan might have some downside, but people here know how to drive. True of the midwest in general outside of Chicago and Detroit.

What is this? A joke? I've been all over this country and lots of other countries. Every place has idiots for drivers. Even Michigan. Sorry to pop your bubble.

 

[John Connor]

Yeah, I live in a town of 50,000. I hear on my police scanner at least three vehicle accidents a day. And God help you if there's a little rain!

People should have to go through a mandatory driving obstacle course every damn time they renew their licensee. I had to do this when I got my Lic. in Utah.

You are superposed to drive defensively not offensively, but people drive offensivly and I see it time and time again. Add in that damn smartphone and holy flipping shit! Every time I'm at a light there's a damn moron with his stupid smartphone in his/her lap. Is it that damn important?! DAMN! I hate stupid drunk drivers, but smartphone texters are about as bad. The stupidity of it all makes me want to cram that damn smartphone straight up their ass.

 

[RossMAN]

Privilege?

 

[Muse]

Well, dude, you're late on the Corvette. Reason is the roads are too crammed with vehicles nowadays and besides, the shape of the roads (where I live) sucks, so it's nowhere near as fun as it used to be to drive a convertible/sports-car.

Yeah, rant.

Myself, my strategy is to drive as little as possible and when driving, do so as if there's a cop on my tail.

I rollerskate everywhere I can (and love it, can't say that about driving my car). If that's not doable, I ride my bicycle (I dig that too). If I can't do that, I'll either drive my car or take the train (don't kid yourself that trains are safe but at least you can relax and read, sight-see or whatever), whichever is more convenient. I virtually never pay for parking. How do I avoid that? If I think I'll need to pay for parking I just don't take my car, I find another way to get there. My insurance is cheap because I get no tickets and am involved in no accidents. I drive on average 1500 miles/year, maintenance is cheap too, therefore.

Yes, it's a privilege. Well, given that it's so shitty now that glorifies it excessively. Let's just say it's not anybody's right to drive a motorized vehicle on the public roads. If your history supports the notion that you cause excessive problems, they should take away your license, or at least suspend you.