Driving: What irks you?

[Ricemarine]

Originally posted by: Farang
Try driving in Vietnam and then I think you'll be done complaining about traffic here.

I actually consider the traffic in Vietnam better, except for the taxis... They drive 20-30 km/h on scooters, and just have to play the dodging game. While in a car, it's much harder to do that, but the scooters have so much versatility that it is easier to dodge taxis...


Over here, we rely more towards cars and go much much faster (96 km/h for highways for 60 mph, 56 km/h for regular roads @ 35 mph, 40 km/h @ 25 mph on a suburban road). Plus, if an accident occurs, the traffic jam here is much worse than a traffic jam in Vietnam (which rarely happens in the first place).


Anywho, what I find lame from my crappy driving experience...
- Merging on a freeway. There's always a traffic jam two exits long because of people trying to merge into the freeway.
- When a patrol car decides to turn their lights on and pull over a car @ 60 mph in < 100 yards on a freeway where the shoulder is not wide enough to even support a car in the first place. Thus, forcing all the cars behind to swerve into an adjacent lane for the first couple and then making the rest of the cars in that lane to merge into another lane. Thus, a big traffic jam in one lane and going from 60 mph - 0 mph in < 25 yards is very very dangerous...
- Tailgaters...
- Those who feel that HWY99 here is just like any other highway and left lane ( two way "Highway"/"State Route") = passing lane. First... there's a traffic light at every intersection and there's always a left turn lane at every intersection. One block is not enough to pull off a pass if the car is driving at the speed limit and passing on a 35 mph zone is very unlikely. Plus, there are left turn lanes as well, so there is a chance of the left lane getting clogged. Either way, slower cars keep right when I want to make a left one block up? Your problem not mine.
- The people whose taillights DO NOT WORK AT ALL... For god sake, YOU SHOULDN'T EVEN BE DRIVING ON THE ROAD... Lucky for me I caught on your lights didn't work beforehand, otherwise I would've smashed into you.

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: JC86

Originally posted by: eelw

Originally posted by: eakers
- people who do not follow the rule of thumb: if someone passes you on the right, you're in the wrong lane

Yeah, this really pisses me off. How has it become that the right lane is now the faster lane??? Yes, we are breaking the law by passing on the right, but impeding traffic now in Toronto is a bigger fine.

While I agree with you, I make an exception when I'm already going 80 MPH and you're still riding my ass, you can pass from the right all day long and I won't give a rat's ass. Since when was it legal to be going 85-100 MPH and expecting everyone to get the hell out of your way?

Slower traffic keep right. I've thought about putting that on a bumper sticker, but then I'd attract too much attention from the cops...I already drive a red sports car.

Even if they're speeding. I've merged right to let people by who I personally thought were MANIACS. I'd rather have them in front of me where they will quickly disappear than somewhere behind me where I might get rear-ended.

 

[shopbruin]

Originally posted by: mugs
Too many things to list, but I can sum it up by saying - people who think they are more important than anyone else on the road. Case in point - cutting in line at a merge point

we had someone do this to us today. it's a fairly busy two lane street that merges into one lane with a fairly long merge. however the one lane was already starting to back up with traffic. we were in the lane that didn't merge and we see a car zoom up on us on the right. the fiance didn't let her in. later she had to make a right turn and laid her horn on us, even though we couldn't move anywhere because THERE WAS A RED LIGHT and cars in front of us.

everyone else merged nice and early like considerate people do, and there's always one jerk that has to rush to the front of the line.

 

[nsafreak]

This is going to be a very long thread I'm sure. Well let's see I'm sure I'll be repeating a few pet peeves that other folks have said but I think I have a few different ones:

1) Assholes that ride your rear when you're in the RIGHT hand lane. That's right, I've actually had this happen to me a few times. I'm in the right hand lane going the speed limit or 5 mph over depending on traffic flow. When asshole driver comes up behind me and rides my ass even thought he left hand lane is open to pass.
2) People with slow reaction times at intersections to go or turn
3) Drivers that don't know how to get up to highway speed on an on ramp. Personally by the time I hit the point where I'm going to merge I'm going the same speed as highway traffic. Yet there are buttheads out there that are still getting up to speed while they are trying to merge
4) People that don't signal
5) Maniac speeders. I've had people that fly by me going at least 80-90 mph or more in a 65 mph zone

I could go on and on but those would be my top 5 piss offs.

 

[0roo0roo]

raised trucks
highbeams
misaligned lights that blind you
hid blue bulbs that blind you

 

[Pepsi90919]

Originally posted by: JC86

Originally posted by: eelw

Originally posted by: eakers
- people who do not follow the rule of thumb: if someone passes you on the right, you're in the wrong lane

Yeah, this really pisses me off. How has it become that the right lane is now the faster lane??? Yes, we are breaking the law by passing on the right, but impeding traffic now in Toronto is a bigger fine.

While I agree with you, I make an exception when I'm already going 80 MPH and you're still riding my ass, you can pass from the right all day long and I won't give a rat's ass. Since when was it legal to be going 85-100 MPH and expecting everyone to get the hell out of your way?

ALWAYS. Slower traffic keep right. MOVE OVER.

 

[KMFJD]

Impatient people that like to pass you when the road is covered in snow/ice, although it is nice watching them go into the ditch...

 

[TheSlamma]

People who care too much

 

[punkdork9]

People who drive slow in the left lane....and the bike lane. the only thing that lane is good for is to give me more room when i open my door.

 

[kranky]

Another one... people making a 90-degree left turn onto a side street but only want to do it on a 45-degree angle. Don't glare at me because I have pulled up to the intersection so I can see oncoming traffic in both directions, forcing you to actually exert some effort into turning your wheel. Sorry that you had to slow down from 30mph to make your turn.

 

[oboeguy]

Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy

Originally posted by: oboeguy
You can't be seriously advocating cold blooded murder. Are you? Statements like that are enough to get you arrested in some places, I imagine.

I really didn't want to hijack this thread but the bicycle bashing is too much. All the stuff you cite is pretty bad, but to generalize like you have is absurd. Also, I believe the trend is going to be toward the Idaho doctrine with respect to cyclist and traffic signs: for bicyclists in Idaho, stop sign = yield sign, red light = stop sign, which is about how most practical cyclist smarter than a cockroach interpret them anyway just about everywhere (including myself). You know what kind of cyclists drive me nuts? Wrong way cyclists. That's about as stupid as it gets. There are cases where it's practical to go the wrong way on a mostly empty street for a block or so but beyond that it's extremely dangerous.

As for "holding up traffic", you're right: IIRC, some laws are written to the effect of "if X number of vehicles are impeded by a slow moving vehicle, the slow moving vehicle needs to get out of the way." Keep in mind, though, if the road is too narrow for a car to safely pass a cyclist, there's probably nowhere for the cyclist to go to get out of the way.

No I'm not actually advocating murder. No one understands sarcasm anymore. But, and I think this is completely unintentional on your part, you have 100 percent proved my point about bicyclists. I don't know you, you seem like you might be a normal person, but as soon as you're talking from the perspective of a bicyclist, the rules stop applying to you. Stop = yield? Red light = stop sign? Not in Oregon. If there's a stop sign you are supposed to stop for it. I don't have a problem with a rolling stop, either, because it's a pain in the ass to put your foot down on a bike (especially if you have a nice bike where you lock your feet into the pedals). But I see bicyclists literally every day that go through stop signs without stopping. I may have the right of way, but they'll tear in front of me, and I'm expected to slam on my brakes to keep from killing them. They think, "Oh, I have plenty of time before he gets here," but what if they hit that tree branch and fall and I hit them as they ragdoll through the intersection? You know what happens? My insurance skyrockets, and I'll probably face some sort of fine, not to mention having to pay to get my car fixed... oh, and having someone's death on my hands for the rest of my life for something that is entirely not my fault. That is some fucked up bullshit to put someone through and I am sick and tired of bicyclists acting like they are entitled to do whatever the hell they want because they aren't polluting. If you aren't going to respect the rules of the road, you have no business on it, whether you're a motorist, a bicyclist or a pedestrian. We have laws for a reason, and no one is above them.

Sure, except those laws are written for cars, not bicycles. At least one state has shown itself to have a clue.

 

[JC86]

Originally posted by: Pepsi90919

Originally posted by: JC86

Originally posted by: eelw

Originally posted by: eakers
- people who do not follow the rule of thumb: if someone passes you on the right, you're in the wrong lane

Yeah, this really pisses me off. How has it become that the right lane is now the faster lane??? Yes, we are breaking the law by passing on the right, but impeding traffic now in Toronto is a bigger fine.

While I agree with you, I make an exception when I'm already going 80 MPH and you're still riding my ass, you can pass from the right all day long and I won't give a rat's ass. Since when was it legal to be going 85-100 MPH and expecting everyone to get the hell out of your way?

ALWAYS. Slower traffic keep right. MOVE OVER.

There's something called the speed limit. Typically 65 MPH, generally accepted +/- 15 mph depending on the conditions. I have yet to see someone going 100 mph NOT get pulled over for speeding. By slower traffic keep right, the spirit of the sign is to keep really slow cars, like trucks and cars going 50-65 mph to stay right, not make everyone scoot over to make way for some jackass driver who thinks he owns the road.

 

[AlucardX]

when you're trying to squeeze into a turning lane but the idiot in front of you won't move up even though they have at least a car length of empty space between him and the car infront.

if you see someone in your rearview inching closer and closer at an angle trying to get into the turning lane, wouldn't you move your car up a bit more to make room?

grrrrr.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

Originally posted by: oboeguy

Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy

Originally posted by: oboeguy
You can't be seriously advocating cold blooded murder. Are you? Statements like that are enough to get you arrested in some places, I imagine.

I really didn't want to hijack this thread but the bicycle bashing is too much. All the stuff you cite is pretty bad, but to generalize like you have is absurd. Also, I believe the trend is going to be toward the Idaho doctrine with respect to cyclist and traffic signs: for bicyclists in Idaho, stop sign = yield sign, red light = stop sign, which is about how most practical cyclist smarter than a cockroach interpret them anyway just about everywhere (including myself). You know what kind of cyclists drive me nuts? Wrong way cyclists. That's about as stupid as it gets. There are cases where it's practical to go the wrong way on a mostly empty street for a block or so but beyond that it's extremely dangerous.

As for "holding up traffic", you're right: IIRC, some laws are written to the effect of "if X number of vehicles are impeded by a slow moving vehicle, the slow moving vehicle needs to get out of the way." Keep in mind, though, if the road is too narrow for a car to safely pass a cyclist, there's probably nowhere for the cyclist to go to get out of the way.

No I'm not actually advocating murder. No one understands sarcasm anymore. But, and I think this is completely unintentional on your part, you have 100 percent proved my point about bicyclists. I don't know you, you seem like you might be a normal person, but as soon as you're talking from the perspective of a bicyclist, the rules stop applying to you. Stop = yield? Red light = stop sign? Not in Oregon. If there's a stop sign you are supposed to stop for it. I don't have a problem with a rolling stop, either, because it's a pain in the ass to put your foot down on a bike (especially if you have a nice bike where you lock your feet into the pedals). But I see bicyclists literally every day that go through stop signs without stopping. I may have the right of way, but they'll tear in front of me, and I'm expected to slam on my brakes to keep from killing them. They think, "Oh, I have plenty of time before he gets here," but what if they hit that tree branch and fall and I hit them as they ragdoll through the intersection? You know what happens? My insurance skyrockets, and I'll probably face some sort of fine, not to mention having to pay to get my car fixed... oh, and having someone's death on my hands for the rest of my life for something that is entirely not my fault. That is some fucked up bullshit to put someone through and I am sick and tired of bicyclists acting like they are entitled to do whatever the hell they want because they aren't polluting. If you aren't going to respect the rules of the road, you have no business on it, whether you're a motorist, a bicyclist or a pedestrian. We have laws for a reason, and no one is above them.

Sure, except those laws are written for cars, not bicycles. At least one state has shown itself to have a clue.

When a car comes to a red light, they stop until it's green. When a pedestrian comes to a signal crosswalk (which almost always accompany a traffic light), they stop until the little man says they can cross. You are saying that bicyclists should be subject to neither of these rules and allowed to go whenever they feel it's clear. I think that's an irresponsible load of horseshit, and my legislators happen to agree with me. Riding a bike does not entitle you to special privileges, such as being able to pick and choose which laws you want to follow.

This is why bicyclists piss me off so damn much. You aren't special, just follow the rules of the road and we can all live together in peace and harmony.

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: JC86

Originally posted by: Pepsi90919

Originally posted by: JC86

Originally posted by: eelw

Originally posted by: eakers
- people who do not follow the rule of thumb: if someone passes you on the right, you're in the wrong lane

Yeah, this really pisses me off. How has it become that the right lane is now the faster lane??? Yes, we are breaking the law by passing on the right, but impeding traffic now in Toronto is a bigger fine.

While I agree with you, I make an exception when I'm already going 80 MPH and you're still riding my ass, you can pass from the right all day long and I won't give a rat's ass. Since when was it legal to be going 85-100 MPH and expecting everyone to get the hell out of your way?

ALWAYS. Slower traffic keep right. MOVE OVER.

There's something called the speed limit. Typically 65 MPH, generally accepted +/- 15 mph depending on the conditions. I have yet to see someone going 100 mph NOT get pulled over for speeding. By slower traffic keep right, the spirit of the sign is to keep really slow cars, like trucks and cars going 50-65 mph to stay right, not make everyone scoot over to make way for some jackass driver who thinks he owns the road.

You can't say "there's something called the speed limit--but it's cool to go 15mph over. NOT 25mph over!"
Just MOVE.

 

[JC86]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: JC86

Originally posted by: Pepsi90919

Originally posted by: JC86

Originally posted by: eelw

Originally posted by: eakers
- people who do not follow the rule of thumb: if someone passes you on the right, you're in the wrong lane

Yeah, this really pisses me off. How has it become that the right lane is now the faster lane??? Yes, we are breaking the law by passing on the right, but impeding traffic now in Toronto is a bigger fine.

While I agree with you, I make an exception when I'm already going 80 MPH and you're still riding my ass, you can pass from the right all day long and I won't give a rat's ass. Since when was it legal to be going 85-100 MPH and expecting everyone to get the hell out of your way?

ALWAYS. Slower traffic keep right. MOVE OVER.

There's something called the speed limit. Typically 65 MPH, generally accepted +/- 15 mph depending on the conditions. I have yet to see someone going 100 mph NOT get pulled over for speeding. By slower traffic keep right, the spirit of the sign is to keep really slow cars, like trucks and cars going 50-65 mph to stay right, not make everyone scoot over to make way for some jackass driver who thinks he owns the road.

You can't say "there's something called the speed limit--but it's cool to go 15mph over. NOT 25mph over!"
Just MOVE.

It's called the speed of the road law, ask any law enforcement agent and he'll explain it to you. In good conditions, you could be going 80 mph and the cop won't give a rat's ass. But under no circumstances do cops consider it safe to be driving 90-100 mph. It's a simple concept. Studies have shown that not only does driving that fast significantly lower your response time, thus endangering those around you, your typical car is also more likely to lose control, spin out, you name it. Studies have also shown that the people who drive that fast are inherently really aggressive, thus also constituting a risk to others around them.

80 mph, while technically over the speed limit, is generally an accepted maximum speed under ideal driving conditions, anything above that is generally considered unsafe regardless of the driving conditions.

 

[beat mania]

People who accelerate slowly away from the light.
If my 82 Corolla can overtake you, you're driving WAY too slow, buddy.

 

[slsmnaz]

Originally posted by: JC86

Originally posted by: Pepsi90919

Originally posted by: JC86

Originally posted by: eelw

Originally posted by: eakers
- people who do not follow the rule of thumb: if someone passes you on the right, you're in the wrong lane

Yeah, this really pisses me off. How has it become that the right lane is now the faster lane??? Yes, we are breaking the law by passing on the right, but impeding traffic now in Toronto is a bigger fine.

While I agree with you, I make an exception when I'm already going 80 MPH and you're still riding my ass, you can pass from the right all day long and I won't give a rat's ass. Since when was it legal to be going 85-100 MPH and expecting everyone to get the hell out of your way?

ALWAYS. Slower traffic keep right. MOVE OVER.

There's something called the speed limit. Typically 65 MPH, generally accepted +/- 15 mph depending on the conditions. I have yet to see someone going 100 mph NOT get pulled over for speeding. By slower traffic keep right, the spirit of the sign is to keep really slow cars, like trucks and cars going 50-65 mph to stay right, not make everyone scoot over to make way for some jackass driver who thinks he owns the road.

Oh, you're one of THOSE people :roll:

 

[SoulAssassin]

People who drive the same speed side-by-side on a two lane road. One of you, I don't really care which one, gtf in the other lane.

 

[BooGiMaN]

i hate people that either turn into your lane froma stop sign or merge onto the freeway at about 10 mph ...hello! match the speed of the traffic your merging into!

i also hate assholes that speed up when your tryign to merge onto the freeway or change lanes...why the hell would you speed up especially if im merging because my lane is about to disappear...

 

[lokiju]

One of my annoyances when driving is when coming to a stop light how people will stop 50 feet from the car in front of them and then after a min or two they'll creep up a few feet at a time which causes a inch worm reaction of everyone moving up a little, stopping then doing it again until everyone is inches away from each other.

WTF can't they just pull all the way up to where they're going to end up anyways and stop the annoying as shit inching forward!?!?!?!?!!?!?

Dammit that shit pisses me off.

:|

 

[jai6638]

Originally posted by: JC86

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: JC86

Originally posted by: Pepsi90919

Originally posted by: JC86

Originally posted by: eelw

Originally posted by: eakers
- people who do not follow the rule of thumb: if someone passes you on the right, you're in the wrong lane

Yeah, this really pisses me off. How has it become that the right lane is now the faster lane??? Yes, we are breaking the law by passing on the right, but impeding traffic now in Toronto is a bigger fine.

While I agree with you, I make an exception when I'm already going 80 MPH and you're still riding my ass, you can pass from the right all day long and I won't give a rat's ass. Since when was it legal to be going 85-100 MPH and expecting everyone to get the hell out of your way?

ALWAYS. Slower traffic keep right. MOVE OVER.

There's something called the speed limit. Typically 65 MPH, generally accepted +/- 15 mph depending on the conditions. I have yet to see someone going 100 mph NOT get pulled over for speeding. By slower traffic keep right, the spirit of the sign is to keep really slow cars, like trucks and cars going 50-65 mph to stay right, not make everyone scoot over to make way for some jackass driver who thinks he owns the road.

You can't say "there's something called the speed limit--but it's cool to go 15mph over. NOT 25mph over!"
Just MOVE.

It's called the speed of the road law, ask any law enforcement agent and he'll explain it to you. In good conditions, you could be going 80 mph and the cop won't give a rat's ass. But under no circumstances do cops consider it safe to be driving 90-100 mph. It's a simple concept. Studies have shown that not only does driving that fast significantly lower your response time, thus endangering those around you, your typical car is also more likely to lose control, spin out, you name it. Studies have also shown that the people who drive that fast are inherently really aggressive, thus also constituting a risk to others around them.

80 mph, while technically over the speed limit, is generally an accepted maximum speed under ideal driving conditions, anything above that is generally considered unsafe regardless of the driving conditions.

You are not the cop so stop trying to be one. If I want to drive at 100 mph ( and I'm not saying I do ), then I will get pulled over the cop. You don't need to try and block me and prevent me from speeding. Move to the right damn it!

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: JC86
It's called the speed of the road law, ask any law enforcement agent and he'll explain it to you. In good conditions, you could be going 80 mph and the cop won't give a rat's ass. But under no circumstances do cops consider it safe to be driving 90-100 mph. It's a simple concept. Studies have shown that not only does driving that fast significantly lower your response time, thus endangering those around you, your typical car is also more likely to lose control, spin out, you name it. Studies have also shown that the people who drive that fast are inherently really aggressive, thus also constituting a risk to others around them.

80 mph, while technically over the speed limit, is generally an accepted maximum speed under ideal driving conditions, anything above that is generally considered unsafe regardless of the driving conditions.

There's no "technically" about it. Anything over the speed limit is over the speed limit, and therefore speeding. If you want to talk numbers, how much more force does an object moving at 80mph hit with versus one moving at the speed limit of, say, 65mph? Your argument doesn't wash, you are not the arbiter, just move your butt over for a few seconds and give your high horse a rest.

 

[JC86]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: JC86
It's called the speed of the road law, ask any law enforcement agent and he'll explain it to you. In good conditions, you could be going 80 mph and the cop won't give a rat's ass. But under no circumstances do cops consider it safe to be driving 90-100 mph. It's a simple concept. Studies have shown that not only does driving that fast significantly lower your response time, thus endangering those around you, your typical car is also more likely to lose control, spin out, you name it. Studies have also shown that the people who drive that fast are inherently really aggressive, thus also constituting a risk to others around them.

80 mph, while technically over the speed limit, is generally an accepted maximum speed under ideal driving conditions, anything above that is generally considered unsafe regardless of the driving conditions.

There's no "technically" about it. Anything over the speed limit is over the speed limit, and therefore speeding. If you want to talk numbers, how much more force does an object moving at 80mph hit with versus one moving at the speed limit of, say, 65mph? Your argument doesn't wash, you are not the arbiter, just move your butt over for a few seconds and give your high horse a rest.

I guess you never went to driving school where the speed of the road law is explained. I'm no physicist but since F=MA, it doesn't take a physicist to know that the faster you go, the more force generated upon impact. So yes, going 80 generates a lot more force than going 65 mph but your argument goes both ways though, the force you generate going at 100 mph is also going to significantly higher than the force generated by a car going 80. God forbid that an accident should occur but the chances of you reducing your speed and minimizing the force of impact seems a lot higher when you're going 80 as compared to 100 mph since the reaction time will increase and your speed won't be as high to start with.

I'll make sure to move over and let you pass next time you're tailgating me and i'll also make sure slow down and laugh at you when you get pulled over for reckless driving. I don't know about you, but I can't really afford the ticket/insurance premium hike that will inevitably rise with one of those tickets.

 

[Captante]

Originally posted by: JC86

Originally posted by: Pepsi90919

Originally posted by: JC86

Originally posted by: eelw

Originally posted by: eakers
- people who do not follow the rule of thumb: if someone passes you on the right, you're in the wrong lane

Yeah, this really pisses me off. How has it become that the right lane is now the faster lane??? Yes, we are breaking the law by passing on the right, but impeding traffic now in Toronto is a bigger fine.

While I agree with you, I make an exception when I'm already going 80 MPH and you're still riding my ass, you can pass from the right all day long and I won't give a rat's ass. Since when was it legal to be going 85-100 MPH and expecting everyone to get the hell out of your way?

ALWAYS. Slower traffic keep right. MOVE OVER.

There's something called the speed limit. Typically 65 MPH, generally accepted +/- 15 mph depending on the conditions. I have yet to see someone going 100 mph NOT get pulled over for speeding. By slower traffic keep right, the spirit of the sign is to keep really slow cars, like trucks and cars going 50-65 mph to stay right, not make everyone scoot over to make way for some jackass driver who thinks he owns the road.

Regardless of the speed limits, the rule is "slower traffic keep right" provided there is open space in the lane to your right. This rule applies even when some idiot driving 100mph flies up behind you regardless of your "feelings" about it. All you accomplish by obstructing a speeder is to make the situation more dangerous for all involved by increasing the chance of an accident as the nut-job passes you on the right or swerves around trying to do so, never mind what could happen to you if they kick into road-rage mode.

Edit: If you want to enforce speeding laws you should become a State trooper.