Driving: What irks you?

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BigJ

Lifer
Nov 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: JC86
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: JC86
It's called the speed of the road law, ask any law enforcement agent and he'll explain it to you. In good conditions, you could be going 80 mph and the cop won't give a rat's ass. But under no circumstances do cops consider it safe to be driving 90-100 mph. It's a simple concept. Studies have shown that not only does driving that fast significantly lower your response time, thus endangering those around you, your typical car is also more likely to lose control, spin out, you name it. Studies have also shown that the people who drive that fast are inherently really aggressive, thus also constituting a risk to others around them.

80 mph, while technically over the speed limit, is generally an accepted maximum speed under ideal driving conditions, anything above that is generally considered unsafe regardless of the driving conditions.

There's no "technically" about it. Anything over the speed limit is over the speed limit, and therefore speeding. If you want to talk numbers, how much more force does an object moving at 80mph hit with versus one moving at the speed limit of, say, 65mph? Your argument doesn't wash, you are not the arbiter, just move your butt over for a few seconds and give your high horse a rest.

I guess you never went to driving school where the speed of the road law is explained. I'm no physicist but since F=MA, it doesn't take a physicist to know that the faster you go, the more force generated upon impact. So yes, going 80 generates a lot more force than going 65 mph but your argument goes both ways though, the force you generate going at 100 mph is also going to significantly higher than the force generated by a car going 80. God forbid that an accident should occur but the chances of you reducing your speed and minimizing the force of impact seems a lot higher when you're going 80 as compared to 100 mph since the reaction time will increase and your speed won't be as high to start with.

I'll make sure to move over and let you pass next time you're tailgating me and i'll also make sure slow down and laugh at you when you get pulled over for reckless driving. I don't know about you, but I can't really afford the ticket/insurance premium hike that will inevitably rise with one of those tickets.

As a person who regularly drives in the right lane:

Get the fuck out of their way. I don't need some asshole trying to cut me off to pass you on the right because you won't move the hell over. By being a stubborn jackass you're putting my safety and the safety of others at risk because you're on your high horse trying to enforce the laws. The asshole flying by is an asshole, we all know that. Now move the hell over before you and the asshole kill us all.
 

Gooberlx2

Lifer
May 4, 2001
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People who don't make attempts to merge until the paint forces to them. And, on the other end of the spectrum, assholes who run up on other peoples' bumpers JUST SO no one can merge in front of them. All you're doing is making the drive worse for you and everyone else.

...and stupid highway engineers who poorly design a system where all the rush hour traffic dumps in to one freeway at the same exact spot. (like where I-25, I-270 and US-36 all meet in Denver).
 

OutHouse

Lifer
Jun 5, 2000
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fricken mornons who go 40 in a 65 on the two lane highway i use to commute to and from work. (only road i can use without taking a 15 mile detour so dont say use a different road)

me going speed limit of 65, moron passes me then 200 feet makes a left or right turn onto a county road causing me to hit my brakes. :|:| :| :|
 

JC86

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Jan 18, 2007
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Before this argument even gets further off track here, let me clarify a few points. My original post, in which i said I agree that slower traffic should keep right unless i'm already going 80 mph and you're still tailgating me, in which case I don't give a rat's ass and you can pass from the right all day long, was originally posted in response to the OP's question as in what irks me as a driver. It's a huge pet peeve of mine when I'm already driving 80 mph and some asshole is not only driving faster, but tailgating me in the process.

That being said, I generally do move to the right and let them pass simply because I don't like being tailgated. The exception to that is when I'm in the carpool lane and cannot legally do so, in which case i would move over when the lane opens but generally speaking, the guy tailgating me would pass me from the right before I even have a chance to move to the right. I know my other posts in this thread may have suggested otherwise and those posts were more or less posted for arguments sake. Do I believe strongly that people shouldn't be driving over 80 mph? absolutely. I'm also not naive enough to believe that people don't drive over 80 mph and I'm don't try to stop them at the risk of my own well being. I hope they get pulled over but that's about the extent of it.
 

OutHouse

Lifer
Jun 5, 2000
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Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
People who don't make attempts to merge until the paint forces to them. And, on the other end of the spectrum, assholes who run up on other peoples' bumpers JUST SO no one can merge in front of them. All you're doing is making the drive worse for you and everyone else.

...and stupid highway engineers who poorly design a system where all the rush hour traffic dumps in to one freeway at the same exact spot. (like where I-25, I-270 and US-36 all meet in Denver).

that is very common here in denver and boulder. then you get the finger from the guy behind you because you CANT MERGE and have to stop or hit the guardrail!

to expand on your highway design, another thing they did that is really retarded is having many right hand lanes that turn into exit only.... that causes more traffic jams than anything. because a 4 lane freeway just got cut down to 3 and people need to move over....
 

JasonK

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Jan 24, 2000
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Idiots who drive with 2 feet (Automatic ). One foot on the break, one on the gas. You can tell who drives like this because their break light never goes away. They get great gas mileage and brake pads are excellent! Cant tell if they are stopping or going.
 

Lithium381

Lifer
May 12, 2001
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#1 is not knowing how to merge.....that's what causes most traffic delays.... the driver will tailgate(read: 2ft) the driver in front of them, and not allow the zipper effect to occur, because they fear one more car in front of them will add 20+ minutes to their drive time. This causes the other half of the merge to slow down, and BAM, compounded that's where 50% of traffic jams come from.....the other 50% due to accidents(of which some are caused by failure to merge correctly)
It helps to leave space between you and the car in front of you, and to please be at speed when attempting to merge(not 15mph below the lane you're trying to jump into)

Which leads me to #2
People who get onto the freeway have this urge to get into the far left lane as soon as possible, regardless of their speed. While it's a good idea to get out of the rightmost lane to accommodate merges, please adjust your lane according to your speed. Don't jump out of a line of stopped traffic into a lane that's going 55mph....you're going to get yourself or someone else seriously injured or even killed. BE PATIENT

#3: Failure to signal
People GENERALLY make better decisions with more information....please signal your intent, then change lanes....then TURN OFF YOUR BLINKER.

#4: Because of issue #1 where we learned that leaving space is not only safe, but it helps the flow of traffic...this shouldn't have to be said, but if someone wants to get over, signals properly and everything.....LET THEM OVER...it won't kill you, and it prevents a possible backup as they have to brake to find a new hole...

#5 PASS THEN GET OVER....easy huh?

man, i really like driving with the big trucks on large interstates, mostly at night. they really know how to drive with courtesy. They signal 99% of the time; pass, then get over, and generally are a joy to drive along-side(other than the rocks they sling)
 

edro

Lifer
Apr 5, 2002
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I can't stand people who go the speed limit.
Normal traffic goes at least 5mph over, Always.
 

eelw

Diamond Member
Dec 4, 1999
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Originally posted by: lokiju
One of my annoyances when driving is when coming to a stop light how people will stop 50 feet from the car in front of them and then after a min or two they'll creep up a few feet at a time which causes a inch worm reaction of everyone moving up a little, stopping then doing it again until everyone is inches away from each other.

WTF can't they just pull all the way up to where they're going to end up anyways and stop the annoying as shit inching forward!?!?!?!?!!?!?

Dammit that shit pisses me off.

:|

Yeah. Since I drive a hybrid and would like to benefit from having autostop stay on as long as possible, stupid creepers really piss me off. But I also do piss off other drivers because I stop really, really close to the car in front of me to avoid that gap to save me from creeping too much.
 

nakedfrog

No Lifer
Apr 3, 2001
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Originally posted by: JC86
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: JC86
It's called the speed of the road law, ask any law enforcement agent and he'll explain it to you. In good conditions, you could be going 80 mph and the cop won't give a rat's ass. But under no circumstances do cops consider it safe to be driving 90-100 mph. It's a simple concept. Studies have shown that not only does driving that fast significantly lower your response time, thus endangering those around you, your typical car is also more likely to lose control, spin out, you name it. Studies have also shown that the people who drive that fast are inherently really aggressive, thus also constituting a risk to others around them.

80 mph, while technically over the speed limit, is generally an accepted maximum speed under ideal driving conditions, anything above that is generally considered unsafe regardless of the driving conditions.

There's no "technically" about it. Anything over the speed limit is over the speed limit, and therefore speeding. If you want to talk numbers, how much more force does an object moving at 80mph hit with versus one moving at the speed limit of, say, 65mph? Your argument doesn't wash, you are not the arbiter, just move your butt over for a few seconds and give your high horse a rest.

I guess you never went to driving school where the speed of the road law is explained. I'm no physicist but since F=MA, it doesn't take a physicist to know that the faster you go, the more force generated upon impact. So yes, going 80 generates a lot more force than going 65 mph but your argument goes both ways though, the force you generate going at 100 mph is also going to significantly higher than the force generated by a car going 80. God forbid that an accident should occur but the chances of you reducing your speed and minimizing the force of impact seems a lot higher when you're going 80 as compared to 100 mph since the reaction time will increase and your speed won't be as high to start with.

I'll make sure to move over and let you pass next time you're tailgating me and i'll also make sure slow down and laugh at you when you get pulled over for reckless driving. I don't know about you, but I can't really afford the ticket/insurance premium hike that will inevitably rise with one of those tickets.

100 points if you guess which of these you've adhered to

And for your information, it's very rare occasion that I drive more than 9mph over the limit, and I've never gotten a speeding ticket in 11 years of driving (and I did, in fact, take driver's ed). Thank you for playing, but you lose, and you don't even get a lousy copy of the home game
 

WingZero94

Golden Member
Mar 20, 2002
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Originally posted by: JohnAn2112
Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy
Tailgaters suck.

People who want to get off the line first after a red light irk me. I do this myself sometimes, never dangerously, but in the last week I have seen two people just take off when the light was still red because they thought it would go green (timed lights at weird intersections; people think that when crosstraffic has a red, they'll immediately get the green, but that's not always the case... fucking idiots).

Bicyclists. I don't know if there's a single decent one out there. My friends, hell even my brother, ride bikes, and they are some of the nicest people you will ever meet. But there's something about hopping on a bike that would turn Mother Teresa into Hitler. Bicyclists obey exactly zero traffic laws, switching lanes at will, ignoring stop signs or traffic lights, riding on the sidewalk then hopping into the street at will... you're either a pedestrian or a vehicle goddammit, make up your fucking mind and stick with it. And FYI, neither gives you the right to just go whenever you feel like it regardless of stop signs or traffic lights. If you want to put other people at risk because your jackass can't be bothered to stop for a light and some car has to swerve to avoid hitting you... fuck it, I'm not even trying any more. I dare you to try that shit with me. I will hit you, back over you, and dispose of your body in a way that's completely untraceable. I am so fed up with these goddamn bicyclists. YOU DON'T GET TO DO WHATEVER YOU WANT JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE GREEN. You know what else is green? The Incredible Hulk. He would totally crush you if he saw you doing that shit. Fucktards.

People who are looking for an address, so they flip on their turn signal, and leave it on for approximately 2 miles. In the era of Google maps and GPS, this is unacceptable.

OMFG that is gold! :laugh:

LOL, I was thinking the same thing when I saw that. Definitely Sig Worthy!!


:laugh:
 

oboeguy

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Dec 7, 1999
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Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy
When a car comes to a red light, they stop until it's green. When a pedestrian comes to a signal crosswalk (which almost always accompany a traffic light), they stop until the little man says they can cross. You are saying that bicyclists should be subject to neither of these rules and allowed to go whenever they feel it's clear. I think that's an irresponsible load of horseshit, and my legislators happen to agree with me. Riding a bike does not entitle you to special privileges, such as being able to pick and choose which laws you want to follow.

This is why bicyclists piss me off so damn much. You aren't special, just follow the rules of the road and we can all live together in peace and harmony.

But we are special. Car drivers get huge subsidies with respect to road wear, space occupied on the road, pollution and free use of public space for parking. But that's beside the point. The reason peds have walk / don't walk signs is because of cars, not because they're pedestrians! You analogy fails.
 

BabaBooey

Lifer
Jan 21, 2001
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Morons on cellphones

Women drivers,sorry gals it's true get a bus pass please

Drivers who camp out in the passing lane a 45 MPH

Cops ( they seem to do as they please around here )

bicyclists .....get the fuck outta the road and on the sidewalk where you belong and the next one that runs a red infront of me is going to be fitted for a wheelchair.


I could go on but have better things to do and have offended enough folks for one morning...
 

WingZero94

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Mar 20, 2002
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Originally posted by: oboeguy
Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy
When a car comes to a red light, they stop until it's green. When a pedestrian comes to a signal crosswalk (which almost always accompany a traffic light), they stop until the little man says they can cross. You are saying that bicyclists should be subject to neither of these rules and allowed to go whenever they feel it's clear. I think that's an irresponsible load of horseshit, and my legislators happen to agree with me. Riding a bike does not entitle you to special privileges, such as being able to pick and choose which laws you want to follow.

This is why bicyclists piss me off so damn much. You aren't special, just follow the rules of the road and we can all live together in peace and harmony.

But we are special. Bicyclists get huge subsidies with respect to road wear, space occupied on the road, pollution and free use of public space for parking. But that's beside the point. The reason peds have walk / don't walk signs is because of cars, not because they're pedestrians! You analogy fails.

Fixed.

I pay a ton of taxes for tire wear, etc. And I sure as hell don't get free use of public space for parking!
 
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No blinkers, or sudden aggressive lane changes.

Aggressive driving in general.

Reckless speeding (say more than 10 over, unless it's a really safe road with little impeding traffic).

Drunk driving (or just acting like it).

Racing.

Driving right beside someone else, matching their speed, when unnecessary.
 

oboeguy

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Dec 7, 1999
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Originally posted by: WingZero94
Originally posted by: oboeguy
Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy
When a car comes to a red light, they stop until it's green. When a pedestrian comes to a signal crosswalk (which almost always accompany a traffic light), they stop until the little man says they can cross. You are saying that bicyclists should be subject to neither of these rules and allowed to go whenever they feel it's clear. I think that's an irresponsible load of horseshit, and my legislators happen to agree with me. Riding a bike does not entitle you to special privileges, such as being able to pick and choose which laws you want to follow.

This is why bicyclists piss me off so damn much. You aren't special, just follow the rules of the road and we can all live together in peace and harmony.

But we are special. Bicyclists get huge subsidies with respect to road wear, space occupied on the road, pollution and free use of public space for parking. But that's beside the point. The reason peds have walk / don't walk signs is because of cars, not because they're pedestrians! You analogy fails.

Fixed.

I pay a ton of taxes for tire wear, etc. And I sure as hell don't get free use of public space for parking!

You really don't get it, do you? Any time you park in the street for free, anywhere, that's a big subsidy to you. How in the world is tire wear on your car related to taxes? And since when does someone riding a bicycle mean s/he isn't paying taxes? Get a clue, man!
 
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