Another one of Obama's failed policies. The obamaphone. Why should someone get some iphone or whatever just because they're poor?
Ronald Reagan would never have stood for this.
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Another one of Obama's failed policies. The obamaphone. Why should someone get some iphone or whatever just because they're poor?
Ronald Reagan would never have stood for this.
Are you being ironic?
I think cell phones will be soon regarded as a necessity just as much as electricity, and soon too computers, and having access to the internet. Times are a changing.. we are evolving. Got to go with the flow, or be left behind in the dark ages.
For those who it actually helps and doesn't scam the system it saves us all money in the long run if they are able to use said phone which is pretty much required when interviewing for jobs. I'd rather this person who really wants a job and not to be reliant on the government teet to have this cheap phone and work then have to pay them welfare, food stamps, medicaid... Really we have no way to get a hold of you? You're hired! Come on man don't be so jaded.
I actually had a grandmother, long deceased now who utilized the telephone supplement programs.. she was too poor to afford a land line phone. This is also right up there with the electric companies who also provide assistance for the poor for help with electricity.
But I do see how these assistance programs probably need some revamping, and I am certain that some companies might have become complacent on monitoring any type of fraud.
There is nothing wrong with them looking into it.
Besides, why a cell phone ($$$$) instead of a landline ($)?
Do you know that for a fact that cell phones are more expensive to subsidize for the poor over landlines? I highly doubt they're giving out iPhones with cadillac plans under this program.
So at least something is being done about it.
To be honest, instead of the DHS we should have a government waste and fraud department that's well funded to not only go after fraud but to come up with measures to limit fraud in the first place.
I love how the righties have renamed a decade+ old program the Obamaphone. He had absolutely nothing to do with the creation of this program and has not expanded it.
You're partially right...
Lifeline started in '84 (Reagan), which subsidized landlines to low-income people.
In 2008 (Obama), it was expanded to anyone receiving food stamps and to cover cell phones.
Now, what about Tracfone - a (the largest?) provider of these gov't subsidized mobile phones? Tracfone's CEO donated $50k to Obama's campaign and his wife has bundled $600k+ Obama donations. Politics as usual... doesn't matter which party.
Q: Has the Obama administration started a program to use "taxpayer money" to give free cell phones to welfare recipients?
A: No. Low-income households have been eligible for discounted telephone service for more than a decade. But the program is funded by telecom companies, not by taxes, and the president has nothing to do with it.
FULL QUESTION
Is this e-mail true?
I had a former employee call me earlier today inquiring about a job, and at the end of the conversation he gave me his phone number. I asked the former employee if this was a new cell phone number and he told me yes this was his "Obama phone."
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FULL ANSWER
Welfare recipients, and others, can receive a free cell phone, but the program is not funded by the government or taxpayer money, as the e-mail alleges. And it’s hardly new.
How It Works
SafeLink Wireless, the program mentioned in the e-mail, does indeed offer a cell phone, about one hour’s worth of calling time per month, and other wireless services like voice mail to eligible low-income households. Applicants have to apply and prove that they are either receiving certain types of government benefits, such as Medicaid, or have household incomes at or below 135 percent of the poverty line. Using 2009 poverty guidelines, that’s $14,620 for an individual and a little under $30,000 for a family of four, with slightly higher amounts for Alaska and Hawaii.
SafeLink is run by a subsidiary of América Móvil, the world’s fourth largest wireless company in terms of subscribers, but it is not paid for directly by the company. Nor is it paid for with "tax payer money," as the e-mail claims. Rather, it is funded through the Universal Service Fund, which is administered by the Universal Service Administrative Company, an independent, not-for-profit corporation set up by the Federal Communications Commission. The USF is sustained by contributions from telecommunications companies such as "long distance companies, local telephone companies, wireless telephone companies, paging companies, and payphone providers." The companies often charge customers to fund their contributions in the form of a universal service fee you might see on your monthly phone bill. The fund is then parceled out to companies, such as América Móvil, that create programs, such as SafeLink, to provide telecommunications service to rural areas and low-income households.
History
The SafeLink program has actually been offering cell phones to low-income households in some states since 2008, not beginning "earlier this year," as the e-mail claims. But the program is rooted in a deeper history.
When phone lines were first laid out in the late 19th century, they were not always inter-operable. That is to say the phone service created by one company to serve one town may not have been compatible with the phone service of another company serving a different town nearby. The telecom companies themselves saw the folly in this arrangement, and so in 1913, AT&T committed itself to resolving interconnection problems as part of the "Kingsbury Commitment."
That common goal of universal service became a goal of universal access to service when Congress passed The Telecommunications Act of 1934. The act created the FCC and also included in its preamble a promise "to make available, so far as possible, to all the people of the United States, a rapid, efficient, Nation-wide, and world-wide wire and radio communication service with adequate facilities at reasonable charges.” There was a fear, expressed by telecom companies themselves, that market forces alone might encourage companies to pass on providing service to hard-to-reach places. This would both hurt the people who wouldn’t have service as well as existing customers who wouldn’t be able to reach them. So the new FCC was tasked with promoting this principle of "universal service."
This informal practice was codified when the Universal Service Administrative Company (USAC) was created as part of the 1996 Telecommunications Act to "ensure all Americans, including low-income consumers and those who live in rural, insular, high cost areas, shall have affordable service and [to] help to connect eligible schools, libraries, and rural health care providers to the global telecommunications network." The USAC includes four programs to serve rural areas, high cost areas, rural health care providers, and schools and libraries. Since 1997, USAC has provided discounted land line service to low-income individuals. (A more limited program to offer assistance to low-income individuals was created a decade earlier; the telecommunications act expanded and formalized it.) According to Eric Iversen, USAC director of external relations, the Universal Service Fund more recently began funding programs that provide wireless service, such as the pre-paid cellular SafeLink program mentioned in the chain e-mail.
The president has no direct impact on the program, and one could hardly call these devices "Obama Phones," as the e-mail author does. This specific program, SafeLink, started under President George Bush, with grants from an independent company created under President Bill Clinton, which was a legacy of an act passed under President Franklin Roosevelt, which was influenced by an agreement reached between telecommunications companies and the administration of President Woodrow Wilson.
In 2008 (Obama), it was expanded to anyone receiving food stamps and to cover cell phones.
I had a former employee call me earlier today inquiring about a job, and at the end of the conversation he gave me his phone number. I asked the former employee if this was a new cell phone number and he told me yes this was his "Obama phone."
You guys are right - I'll edit my post to not perpetuate inaccuracy.
Too bad I didn't find this last night:
http://money.cnn.com/2012/10/26/technology/mobile/tracfone-free-phones/index.html
They talk about 2008 being the correct year that cell phones were in allowed, which was under Bush, and how the utilization of this program increased due to aggressive recruitment, especially by Tracfone, combined with the economic downturn.
Lifeline is paid by the consumer (those "fees" that you see in your phone bill).
I think anyone who refers to a program started under Reagan and upgraded to include cell phones under Bush as Obamaphones should be committed because they are a danger to themselves and society.
Are you people ignorant, crazy or stupid??
Damn, Fox News and the CEC has done a number on you
God damn it! This is why I ask for citations, so we don't have to debate the facts and just debate the issue.
Here are the facts regrading "Obama phones"
Fact: Its a program that was in effect before Obama became president.
Fact: The program started issuing cellphones in 2008 before Obama was in office.
And I'll quote the whole article for those that are too lazy to click on the link:
Most of the "Debunk" sites seem to focus on the fact that: A. Obama has nothing to do with it. and B.. Its not tax money, its cell phone (tax) fees that pay for the program. Neither fact is really material IMO..
This in a nutshell is the idiocy of progressives. It's not funded by taxpayers, far from it. It's funded by fees the federal government forces telecom companies to levy on those who pay for their own services.God damn it! This is why I ask for citations, so we don't have to debate the facts and just debate the issue.
Here are the facts regrading "Obama phones"
Fact: Its a program that was in effect before Obama became president.
Fact: The program started issuing cellphones in 2008 before Obama was in office.
And I'll quote the whole article for those that are too lazy to click on the link:
http://factcheck.org/2009/10/the-obama-phone/
As for why they are called Obamaphones, Obama is President and presided over its huge expansion. If it makes you feel any better, they'll be called Hillaryphones when she is President.