Drove a Chevy Cruze this weekend

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LTC8K6

Lifer
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The Cruze is not new tech, just current tech put together very well.

Hell toyota had to sell the Prius at half its cost to build just to get it off the ground. many forget the prius cost around 17k when it came out but cost about 32k to build.
So the Volt is not doing as badly as Toyota and the orignal prius in terms of cost.

That's a base Volt with the $7,500 kicker from the public.

Without that, a base Volt is $15K more than the top Cruze.

In either case, the point being that you'll never "save" any money with the Volt.

However, the first batch of Volt buyers couldn't care less about that money...just like the first batch of Prius buyers didn't.

And Toyota wasn't owned by the public at the time either...
 

Vette73

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You seem to misunderstand the purpose of this car. Does the Civic, Corolla or Focus offer V6 or V8 options? It's an economy car designed to get good gas mileage.


So you are saying that the Chevy Cruze will not get a 6.6L duramax diesel option? I don;t understand, so who is this car marketed to?


 

DougoMan

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You seem to misunderstand the purpose of this car. Does the Civic, Corolla or Focus offer V6 or V8 options? It's an economy car designed to get good gas mileage.

I thought it was suppose to handle like a BMW.

BMWs have big engines. Maybe the V8 is too heavy, but an aluminum 6? Might work.

More power at lower rpm = similar gas mileage

Look at the Accord. 4 banger and V6 have similar fuel economy.
 

Bignate603

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I thought it was suppose to handle like a BMW.

BMWs have big engines. Maybe the V8 is too heavy, but an aluminum 6? Might work.

More power at lower rpm = similar gas mileage

Look at the Accord. 4 banger and V6 have similar fuel economy.

I've never heard anyone claim it will handle like a BMW and even if it did that has nothing to do with engine size.

While some cars have similar gas mileage between the 4 and 6 cylinder models that isn't usually the case, especially when you're talking about a small car that can easily be moved around by a 4 banger. Also, a turbo'd 4 can be designed to be more efficient than a naturally aspirated one.
 

LTC8K6

Lifer
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Well, the Cruze and the Malibu have similar fuel economy when comparing the 4 bangers.
 

mmntech

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The car rental company I worked for had a ton of Cobalts. Damn things were universally hated by customers and employees alike. GM's new stuff seems solid though, even if they're still using those cheap plastic interiors. If they're anything like the new Malibus, I think Chevy is on to something.

I'm dying to drive the Cruze. So far we have no plans to pick them up. Just got a shipment of Mazda 3s today, so it looks unlikely.
 

child of wonder

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They've made good vehicles for a long time, but I hate Henry Ford.

Also, the Cruze looks way cooler.

Henry Ford died a LONG time ago.

Walmart used to be a company dedicated to selling American made goods but once Sam Walton died that was quickly thrown out the window.

Point is, companies rarely reflect the values of their proprietors after they're dead.

Personally, I think the Cruze looks very plain.
 

Tristicus

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Went to the dealership today. I didn't drive, but sat in the back. Guy was 6' 2" (so said) who sat in front of me, and I had enough room in the back (big guy, as well as about 6'). Head was pretty much touching/almost touching the roof however. Wasn't bad, comfortable enough for a backseat ride. Since I didn't drive, can't tell you exactly how it was, but it seemed to shift really high. We drove the 1.4l Turbo version, and it seemed to like to get to 4k before it did shift down, even without a lot of throttle. Lot of pep for a little car/engine is what she said it felt like. I'd personally like to drive it and see for myself, but didn't seem like a BAD car. Not sure if it was exactly amazing though either.
 

Excelsior

Lifer
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GM did a ride and drive event at the local car show today and I got to drive both a Cruze LTZ and a Camaro SS.

In summary, the Cruze really impressed me. This car should be a hit here.

Exterior: There is really no doubting that this car looks much better than any 'compact' car GM has put out in some time or ever. I don't see how any average joe would be ashamed of driving around in it. I'll include the trunk and rear folding seats here. The trunk is a decent size and I appreciate the folding seats, I expect it in a sedan these days...

Engine: This was what I was most interested in. I currently drive a smaller turbo engine and I've yet to experience a turbo ecotec engine but I've heard good things. This engine delivers. It feels bigger than it is and never seems to strain. No, it doesn't force back into your seat on full throttle but it has plenty of get up and go. While it may shift higher, the car is quiet. You don't hear the motor buzzing away. I wouldn't hesitate to DD a car with this particular engine.

Transmission: As one would expect from a modern 6 spd automatic, the shifts were smooth. I had no problem with where the car shifted. I tried the manumatic mode but it wasn't really worth it with this car. Wouldn't use it if I had one.

Handling: One big flaw in my mind and maybe this isn't limited to the Cruze (as far as newer cars go). The steering. It had zero weight and was quite uncommunicative. Yeah it went where you wanted it to go but I would still expect better. However, the car felt tight enough as far as this segment is concerned.

Interior: One of the best that GM has ever put out in one of its mass production cars if not the best. Naturally I was driving a well optioned Cruze but the car felt much more european than it had any right to. Also, this car is very roomy. It may be in the compact segment but let me tell you, it felt like a midsize car. My friend was in the back seat behind me when I drove and she had no complaints with leg room but I am not the tallest and she is relatively short. Would this car comfortably carry four 6ft+ men around? Not necessarily, but it would do it better than other compacts no question. The seats were comfortable and supportive but a long term drive would be the only way to know how good they really are.

I think that about covers it. Anyone shopping in the corolla, civic, forte, etc segment absolutely needs to look at this car. This isn't old GM...this is new GM.

And speaking of other cars: The Mazda2 had impressive interior room for the driver/passenger. The fully optioned Kia Optima looked nothing like a Kia inside or out. And I still want an Audi S4.
 
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PricklyPete

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GM did a ride and drive event at the local car show today and I got to drive both a Cruze LTZ and a Camaro SS.

In summary, the Cruze really impressed me. This car should be a hit here.

Exterior: There is really no doubting that this car looks much better than any 'compact' car GM has put out in some time or ever. I don't see how any average joe would be ashamed of driving around in it. I'll include the trunk and rear folding seats here. The trunk is a decent size and I appreciate the folding seats, I expect it in a sedan these days...

Engine: This was what I was most interested in. I currently drive a smaller turbo engine and I've yet to experience a turbo ecotec engine but I've heard good things. This engine delivers. It feels bigger than it is and never seems to strain. No, it doesn't force back into your seat on full throttle but it has plenty of get up and go. While it may shift higher, the car is quiet. You don't hear the motor buzzing away. I wouldn't hesitate to DD a car with this particular engine.

Transmission: As one would expect from a modern 6 spd automatic, the shifts were smooth. I had no problem with where the car shifted. I tried the manumatic mode but it wasn't really worth it with this car. Wouldn't use it if I had one.

Handling: One big flaw in my mind and maybe this isn't limited to the Cruze (as far as newer cars go). The steering. It had zero weight and was quite uncommunicative. Yeah it went where you wanted it to go but I would still expect better. However, the car felt tight enough as far as this segment is concerned.

Interior: One of the best that GM has ever put out in one of its mass production cars if not the best. Naturally I was driving a well optioned Cruze but the car felt much more european than it had any right to. Also, this car is very roomy. It may be in the compact segment but let me tell you, it felt like a midsize car. My friend was in the back seat behind me when I drove and she had no complaints with leg room but I am not the tallest and she is relatively short. Would this car comfortably carry four 6ft+ men around? Not necessarily, but it would do it better than other compacts no question. The seats were comfortable and supportive but a long term drive would be the only way to know how good they really are.

I think that about covers it. Anyone shopping in the corolla, civic, forte, etc segment absolutely needs to look at this car. This isn't old GM...this is new GM.

And speaking of other cars: The Mazda2 had impressive interior room for the driver/passenger. The fully optioned Kia Optima looked nothing like a Kia inside or out. And I still want an Audi S4.

Nice write-up...glad to hear it impressed. It will be interesting to see if people will be willing to pay that much for a Chevy when they have gotten used to the pricing of the Cobalt. Ditto with Ford and the new Focus...completely new animal from the old Focus.
 

SolMiester

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Mate got a GT-R about 6mths ago, just had a change to go for a ride in it 2 weeks ago...Absolutely mental car!!
 

Zenmervolt

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"The Ecotec 1.4L turbo delivers 138 horsepower (103 kW) and 148 lb.-ft. of torque (200 Nm) between 1,850 rpm and 4,900 rpm. The wide rpm range for the maximum torque – a specific trait of turbocharged engines – helps the engine deliver a better driving experience and performance. "

The shape of the torque curve is indeed wonderful, but it's still only 148 ft-lbs for a 3,100 lb vehicle.

Adequate, sure, and definitely not weak, but just as definitely not "strong". As others have pointed out, it's good for the class and considering the aim of the car it's expected. Still, even when it's available across such a wide band, it's not really what ought to be called, "strong".

ZV
 

LTC8K6

Lifer
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The shape of the torque curve is indeed wonderful, but it's still only 148 ft-lbs for a 3,100 lb vehicle.

Adequate, sure, and definitely not weak, but just as definitely not "strong". As others have pointed out, it's good for the class and considering the aim of the car it's expected. Still, even when it's available across such a wide band, it's not really what ought to be called, "strong".

ZV

Do you think it's overly complex for the class and the economy?
 

RedRooster

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I think they're going to be attractive to slightly different markets. Just by appearance alone the Focus is significantly more flashy while the Cruze is more subdued.

Ya, one will be bought and the other will be rented. :awe:
Just jokes, just jokes. No one will rent a Cruze.
 

Bignate603

Lifer
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Mate got a GT-R about 6mths ago, just had a change to go for a ride in it 2 weeks ago...Absolutely mental car!!

Unless they have a version of the cruze that I don't know about I think you've missed the point of this thread.


Ya, one will be bought and the other will be rented. :awe:
Just jokes, just jokes. No one will rent a Cruze.

Pretty much all of GM's recently released cars have been very well received. I think the Cruze will be about the same.
 

Zenmervolt

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Do you think it's overly complex for the class and the economy?

Complex? Nope. But I love turbos, so I'm a bit biased. I do think it's overweight, but that's generally an issue with all cars today in my view.

ZV
 

DivideBYZero

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Currently driving the Uk version ofthis car, the Vauxhall Astra SRi Turbo. 138hp or so 1.4litre turbo. Certainly has some push, but nothing compared to our 120d. Torque is good, but for me it feels too strong for front grip when leaving the line and not strong enough in gear. Revving the engine to the red line provides no more grunt, the delivery is quite flat. Appears to be aimed at providing the same amount of shove no matter where you are in the band, which isn't bad for getting the kids from school, but means there is little to no character.

Engine is quite rough sounding, too. More to come later after I have driven it back to the BMW dealer to pick up the 120d, which is in due to a turbo problem...
 

Excelsior

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I was reading the Inside Line article about the Cruze and it reiterates some of what I said. One of my complaints with all of the comments is that everyone has reduced the value of a car to its damn 0-60 time. How many of you floor your car at every light? I rarely...rarely ever floor it. And I certainly wouldn't do it in my S2000 much either. It just doesn't make sense.

If everyone actually drove each car they argued about or was a passenger in one for a bit they'd stop recommending Evolutions instead of cars more comfortable.
 
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