Originally posted by: JohnDoh
Pal, you must be real old or grew up living a sheltered life or something but...
Quote housecat:
"sorry the world isnt so simple anymore.. people prey on kids. *cough*DRUG DEALERS*cough*
Cuz they know they are easily influenced, can get them to try a highly addictive and ruining drug then make money.. "
This is just prohibition propoganda, im only 27, I hang with all sorts of people and many much younger then me, ive seen my share of drugs... this isnt how it happens.
Like Chriss Rock says in a parody about the subject... no crack dealer ever sits around and says to himself "Damn! How the hell am I going to get rid of all this crack!? Sh*t no adults will buy it, I guess ill have to go to school grounds and get little kids hooked on it!" LOL
Your viewpoint on children is pretty neive and far from psycologic truth "If you understood brain development JohnDoe, you'd know that adolescents are not even capable of making educated decisions for themselves"
Thats a rotten way to think of children. People just dont suddenly turn 18 and become mentally aware. Kids are not going to come in contact with drugs till there teenagers if at all. If by the time there a teenager there not wise enough to understand the desisions they make and there consequences (for the most part) then I blaim it on the parents for being poor parents.
I have no problem with kids using marijuana in moderation, if there responcible educated children. Marijuana can be fun and take some of the stress off of being a teenager without becoming any sort of a problem. Marijuana is the most comon drug (other then alcohol) used by youth.
If parents and educaters drug test children and send them the messages that marijuana is as dangerious as "hard drugs" then your more likely to have your children doing hard drugs after they discover marijuana for the most part is harmless and theyve been lied to.
Drug testing kids violates there most basic rights that I beleive even children should have, and most importantly it violates there trust. Medically and historically we know alcohol has done more damage to kids then all other drugs combined... BUT if our children are caught drinking we dont send them to rehab or violate there rights by urine testing them for it.
Your all stuck in the prohibition propoganda, ive done almost ALL drugs at one time or another... I dont now, but ive been there, I know the possitives and negatives... and I live in a real world based on facts and my experiances.
The lessons of alcohol prohibition are no different then "drug" prohibition. It creates more crime then it solves, it violates peoples rights, it even makes it easyier for youth to get and it puts sick people in jail. I could go on but if I make it any longer people wont read it, LOL.
18 is the magic age because we have to draw a line somewhere. And its not a rotten way to think of children, its reality that the brain is not fully developed until the early 20s.
Remember that 18 age mentioned earlier? Yes, I told you the system is perfect. Never will be.
The real age of accountability would probably more realistically be 21. I dont necessarily agree with this viewpoint.. but I'm trying to draw a stark contrast your your standpoint based on medical fact.
The only reason alchohol has done more damage to kids than all other drugs combined is because these drugs are relatively new.
I grew up (recently) in the midwest, meth is a large problem where I live and traditionally this is "middle America". If we do not limit the production of these drugs from chemicals we will have an even larger problem on our hands..
I've seen what meth does to a body and mind.. theres no way a drug like that should be legally administered, even under your own free will..
and no one is saying you CAN'T do it, in reality no one is going to stop you (unless you get caught).
So you do have your ultimate freedom of choice, everyone does.. but society is NEVER going to encourage it by allowing it to go on legally.
The problem is the consequences to those choices, prison obviously.. but like I said I've seen what meth does to a person.
This drug test finds pot, which is a well-known precursor to hard drugs.. or gateway drug I suppose to be PC about it.
And thats total and utter BS if someone says "YEAH RIGHT MAN, SMOKING POT DOES NOT MAKE ME A DRUGGIE".. because in the real world, nearly everyone EVERYONE i know that smoked pot consistently ended up trying coke, X, acid, ect.
Then a percentage of those keep doing it until their brains are gone. Thats why we try as hard as possible to stop it before it even starts... at pot.
Not here anyway, maybe in Canada or a more liberal nation.
Is it really that hard, or bad to live without any drug or alchohol? I seem to do it and am finishing up my bachelor degree... just got married... and I'm extremely happy and content.. what everyone is saying is that this is the life that everyone wants for their kids..
and I'm 22.
drugs are not the way to becoming a productive citizen.
I just dont understand why there is such a dedicated lunatic fringe dedicated to legalizing drugs.. dont you have better things to do with your life??