DSA has some scalps this election night

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VirtualLarry

No Lifer
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So, let me get this straight, there's the "Democratic Socialists of America", and they are aligned with Antifa, and then there's the "Democratic National Socialists", which, I am told, are Nazis, and which Antifa hates. Or they hate Antifa, not sure which. Possibly both.

Yet, to someone that doesn't identify with either "Socialist" or "Democrat", it's awfully hard to tell the difference between them, at a distant glance, just knowing their names. I mean, both of them have "Democratic" and "Socialist" in their name, and then, furthermore, one has "America", and one has "National".'

You might guess, by name alone, that both of these parties would be best buddies...
 

Blackjack200

Lifer
May 28, 2007
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Fragmenting the democratic party is also a hobby of the Russians. They did the same thing with the Bernie Bros.


Balkanize US politics/ foment discord/ make the US geopolitically irrelevant... it's all part of the plan.

This Russia shit is basically the equivalent of 'Obama is a Muslim' at this point. Just baseless accusations and xenophobia.

So, let me get this straight, there's the "Democratic Socialists of America", and they are aligned with Antifa,

"Aligned with Antifa"... lol.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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This Russia shit is basically the equivalent of 'Obama is a Muslim' at this point. Just baseless accusations and xenophobia.



"Aligned with Antifa"... lol.

Let me get this straight, Russia meddling in our election and corruption involving Russia and people in the trump admin are the equivalent of "Obama is a Muslim"?

I don't think you could be a worse advocate for bernie's "movement".
 

FIVR

Diamond Member
Jun 1, 2016
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This Russia shit is basically the equivalent of 'Obama is a Muslim' at this point. Just baseless accusations and xenophobia.



"Aligned with Antifa"... lol.

LOL.

You don't think Bernie Sanders helped serve the Russians in their effort to stop HRC from taking the presidency?


I agree that there is certainly a xenophobic component of it, but to dismiss outright Russian meddling is to ignore reality.
 

pmv

Lifer
May 30, 2008
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So, let me get this straight, there's the "Democratic Socialists of America", and they are aligned with Antifa, and then there's the "Democratic National Socialists", which, I am told, are Nazis, and which Antifa hates. Or they hate Antifa, not sure which. Possibly both.

Yet, to someone that doesn't identify with either "Socialist" or "Democrat", it's awfully hard to tell the difference between them, at a distant glance, just knowing their names. I mean, both of them have "Democratic" and "Socialist" in their name, and then, furthermore, one has "America", and one has "National".'

You might guess, by name alone, that both of these parties would be best buddies...


Just as Zhironovsky's Liberal Democratic Party of Russia is so easy to confuse with Vince Cable's Liberal Democrat Party.

And of course, the IRA are almost indistinguishable from the US Republicans.
 

Blackjack200

Lifer
May 28, 2007
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Let me get this straight, Russia meddling in our election and corruption involving Russia and people in the trump admin are the equivalent of "Obama is a Muslim"?

I don't think you could be a worse advocate for bernie's "movement".

The Benghazi investigations are probably a better analogy. A thorough investigation that does uncover wrongdoing, but the findings are exaggerated and exploited by political partisans.

LOL.

You don't think Bernie Sanders helped serve the Russians in their effort to stop HRC from taking the presidency?

I agree that there is certainly a xenophobic component of it, but to dismiss outright Russian meddling is to ignore reality.

Do I think Sanders "helped serve the Russians" when he conceded the primary, endorsed Hillary Clinton, and then campaigned for her?

No, I don't
 

hal2kilo

Lifer
Feb 24, 2009
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The Benghazi investigations are probably a better analogy. A thorough investigation that does uncover wrongdoing, but the findings are exaggerated and exploited by political partisans.



Do I think Sanders "helped serve the Russians" when he conceded the primary, endorsed Hillary Clinton, and then campaigned for her?

No, I don't
Boy, you've gone full circle. Link to Bengazi wrong doing please. Emphasis on wrong.
 

Blackjack200

Lifer
May 28, 2007
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Boy, you've gone full circle. Link to Bengazi wrong doing please. Emphasis on wrong.

Clinton admitted it was wrong to use a private email server. Uncovered by the Benghazi investigation, and the wrongdoing was exaggerated and exploited.

You don't remember the indictments from Benghazi or the guilty plea by one of the people involved?!

/s

Because I said "indictments"?
 

ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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Clinton admitted it was wrong to use a private email server. Uncovered by the Benghazi investigation, and the wrongdoing was exaggerated and exploited.



Because I said "indictments"?

No I said indictments, as in there are currently indictments against people associated with trump and people have plead guilty. Just in case my point isn't clear enough for you, the Russia investigation is not like the Benghazi investigation because one was politically motivated and one is actually about corruption with a foreign government.

If I wasn't aware of your posting history before the 2016 election I would think you were a Russian shill with all the shit you were and continue to sling that reads like Republican and trump talking points.
 

Blackjack200

Lifer
May 28, 2007
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No I said indictments, as in there are currently indictments against people associated with trump and people have plead guilty. Just in case my point isn't clear enough for you, the Russia investigation is not like the Benghazi investigation because one was politically motivated and one is actually about corruption with a foreign government.

If I wasn't aware of your posting history before the 2016 election I would think you were a Russian shill with all the shit you were and continue to sling that reads like Republican and trump talking points.

Indictments for shit unrelated to the campaign. Wow, you're just as disingenuous as Republicans. You Peter Daou types are so wrapped up in this Russia shit you see Manafort get nailed to the wall and think it's license to say outrageously dumb shit like that Sanders was serving Russian interests.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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Indictments for shit unrelated to the campaign. Wow, you're just as disingenuous as Republicans. You Peter Daou types are so wrapped up in this Russia shit you see Manafort get nailed to the wall and think it's license to say outrageously dumb shit like that Sanders was serving Russian interests.

I'm not aware of anyone saying Sanders was serving Russian interest, you however were repeating their talking points throughout the whole campaign. How stupid must you feel knowing that Russia targeted gullible idiots like you.

With regards to the Russian investigation, I guess we'll have to see how it turns out but so far it's certainly not a nothing burger. Keep playing the useful idiot though, you are doing an amazing job.
 

Blackjack200

Lifer
May 28, 2007
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I'm not aware of anyone saying Sanders was serving Russian interest

Post 29.

you however were repeating their talking points throughout the whole campaign. How stupid must you feel knowing that Russia targeted gullible idiots like you.

Care to back that up? Or is this just a drive-by smear, consistent with the general shittyness we've seen directed at the left by liberals since Hillary Clinton's disastrous loss to one of the most unpopular politicians in recent history? Guess it's easier to point fingers than look within.

With regards to the Russian investigation, I guess we'll have to see how it turns out but so far it's certainly not a nothing burger. Keep playing the useful idiot though, you are doing an amazing job.

You, on the other hand, are completely useless.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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Post 29.



Care to back that up? Or is this just a drive-by smear, consistent with the general shittyness we've seen directed at the left by liberals since Hillary Clinton's disastrous loss to one of the most unpopular politicians in recent history? Guess it's easier to point fingers than look within.



You, on the other hand, are completely useless.

Nope, I cannot. I must have confused you with someone else, I apologize.
 
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