DSL SHARING QUESTION

lebe0024

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I need an external dsl modem that I can plug into a hub to share the connection. Is this possible. The network contains macs and PC's. What's the best way to do this? I do need something external, like a router I guess. But I don't want to pay the local DSL Co. 200 for their Cysco 8port router. Is there a cheaper 1 port router or something? I need something that has a phoneline DSL Jack and an ethernet output jack. Pls hlp. Thanks.
 

Nightfall

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Yes, this is quite possible.

As for what you need, you will need to get a DSL/Cable Modem router. Linksys, D-Link, and SMC make these routers and they are pretty reasonable in price. All you have to do is plug your DSL modem into the port on the back of the router and then plug your computers into the router and you are set to go. You can get 1 port, 4 port, and 8 port routers for your computers or network. I would encourage you to get a 4 port router and plug your systems into that. The router has a built-in 10/100 switch that makes a network very fast and efficient.

As for what you need, Linksys sells a one port DSL/Cable Modem router that you can plug right into your network connection and go to town. Check out more reviews at Practically Networked for other reviews and such.

Hope this helps!
 

lebe0024

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I wen't to lynksys's site, and they said the one port router needs an external modem with a rj45 interface. That's what I NEED. How can I get an external modem with an rj45 interface. BTW Thanks fellow Minnesotan.

I need: a external modem that is does not run off of a computer (like the Cysco Router). This is to connect multiple macs and PCs.

I have : an 8 port hub.
 

Xirys

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I'm trying to get this clear in my mind so as to better help you.

Do you currently have DSL set up on a single computer? I'm guessing not, from your description. If that's the case, I'm also guessing you are trying to avoid buying the "modem" (actually not a modem, but what everyone calll them.) from the folks that are going to set up your access. If that's the case, the only way around it is to buy someone else's "modem" that no longer needs it at a discount. Otherwise you are just going to have to hunt through Pricewatch/grabber and try to find a deal on one somewhere.

I hope I understood you, and that this helps.

X- Just stop what you're doing and start playing Everquest.
 

bitterjoe

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What are you using as a DSL modem now? Or are you saying that you don't have DSL, yet, but want to setup DSL service?

Sorry, but your post was not clear on this.
 

Nightfall

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I agree. You will need to buy or lease a DSL modem. Most companies make you purchase one or lease one when you buy their service, but you need the modem to get the service to work

Diagram:

DSL line in your house ----> DSL Modem -----> DSL Router (Linksys or similar brand) -----> Computers or devices on your network

 

lebe0024

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Yes. I want to avoid buying the standard modem/router combo from my DSL provider for $200. Now, I also don't want to get a modem that actually runs off of a computer (like the cisco does). So:

DSL Connection ->Totally external modem (do they exist?) with RJ45 -> Hub or Router (can I just use my hub) -> computers on network.

Is this possible? Or should I just buy the Cisco for 200?
 

bitterjoe

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Sure they exist. I've had DSL service from USWest (now Qwest), Pacbell and now Speakeasy (thru Covad). I've use a Cisco, an Alcatel and now an Efficient external modem.

DSL --> router (I have a 486 funning Freesco) --> switch or hub (I have a Netgear FS105) --> PC's, Macs, printer, etc.

You need to find out what type of modem is compatible with your ISP. Is it bridging or routing mode, etc. Don't just buy a modem and assume it will be supported with your service.
 

bitterjoe

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DSL --> modem --> router (I have a 486 funning Freesco) --> switch or hub (I have a Netgear FS105) --> PC's, Macs, printer, etc.

whoops, I left out the modem -- and this damn forum won't let me edit my post!
 

bitterjoe

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Umm... running not funning! Still can't edit posts!!

All the --> are just plain Cat5 Ethernet. Works like a charm.
 

JackMDS

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It is impossible to find External Ethernet DSL modem on the free market. I don?t know the exact ploy, but somehow the manufactures don?t release it to the retail market.

If you already find one (usually auction sites), it will cost you between $150-$200.

In other word in this specific situation it is better to just get the DSL modem, or modem Router from the provider, it really does not worth to spend time on it.
 

bitterjoe

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I haven't run into a DSL ISP yet, and I've had three, that will provide support for a non-provided modem. So you'd be on your own for support. There is a pretty lively trade in DSL modems on eBay, but I think it is mostly people picking up used models of the same hardware their ISP sells.
 

lebe0024

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Ok, so this doesn't look like a cost effective way to go. Do Macs have Internet Connection Sharing? If they do, and I connect it to a hub, will the PC's on the network get the Internet connection just fine?
 

JackMDS

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Click on the two following links, you will get some info about sharing.

The Basic Options to Share Internet Connection (Internet Sharing 101).


Hubs, routers, switches, DSL, LANs, WANs...?

The capacity to share has nothing to do with the computer. Any computer functioning on Ethernet LAN can share.

On the issue of Mac.

A quote from a posting by TallGeese.

<< A friend of mine has a Pre-imac era Mac with a cable connection and they have a new Athlon PC. How hard will it be to share the cable connection between the two? >>

It's as easy as networking two identical platforms PCs to share the connection. Any SOHO level router will work just fine for what you are describing. Pick and choose whichever one meets your needs from the &quot;Holy Trinity&quot;: Linksys, Netgear, SMC.

And look at this thread.

How to share with Mac.
 
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