Dual core sandy bridge to quad steamroller upgrade question

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mikeymikec

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i5 2400's are selling around $110-130 on ebay. i5 2500 isn't much more and 2500K's sell for around $150. A brand new 3470 is $170.- and 3570k for $190.- at microcenter. All are plug and play option for your mobo. Easy upgrade and will handle anything you throw at it for a few years.

A lot of people (myself included) have had problems with IVB CPUs in SB mobos, despite the board officially supporting it (with the requisite BIOS updates of course).
 

Blue_Max

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I'd say keep it, the hyperthreading will keep it relevant a while longer. That 7850 should be the bottleneck in games, not your i3.

I agree - the i3 is two cores plus two hyperthreading units, so it performs notably better than your average G850 dual-core.

I'd blame the video card before the processor...
 
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Hi and thanks for the responses, I dont blame my cpu for anything its just looking at the cpu benchmarks for crysis 3 and far cry 3 I just see the writing on the wall. I would consider upgrading next year but next year was when I wanted to upgrade my graphics card (or whenever 20nm gpus are released) so I was just considering this option. However I never did consider a older i5 so that is an option, originally I was looking at the i5 3350p since my motherboards bios supports ivy bridge out of the box.
 

escrow4

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A 6300 + 970 board is less than an i5 itself and despite the flaws is still sufficient in multithreaded games. Seeing as next gen consoles will obviously move on from the dual/tri core at best reliance I'd get a 6300 minimum. You don't really need an i5 if you can accept some compromises.
 

mikeymikec

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A 6300 + 970 board is less than an i5 itself and despite the flaws is still sufficient in multithreaded games. Seeing as next gen consoles will obviously move on from the dual/tri core at best reliance I'd get a 6300 minimum. You don't really need an i5 if you can accept some compromises.

and the RAM? He's using DDR3-1333.

PS: I'm British, I have no idea what the prices are wherever the OP is.
 

ShintaiDK

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A 6300 + 970 board is less than an i5 itself and despite the flaws is still sufficient in multithreaded games. Seeing as next gen consoles will obviously move on from the dual/tri core at best reliance I'd get a 6300 minimum. You don't really need an i5 if you can accept some compromises.

What a terrible advice. The FX6300 is slower than an i5 2500 on all fronts. And it only gets worse as the thread counts drop down from 6. And the i5 will still be 30-50% faster in most games.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/699?vs=288
 
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Abwx

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When you for example uses 4 theads on a 2 module 4 thread core. Since they share alot of resources. Then you get a performance penalty. Usually in the 10-20% range.

No , SR has solved this penalty and you knows it.

It also shares the FP unit. Something that starts to be really painful on 2M chips.

The FP is underused by the current cores but SR has
better scheduling efficency.

BD and PD takse 2 cycles to execute 256bit AVX. The FlexFP was nothing but PR like the increased IPC.

A 2M/4T BD/PD/SR got roughly half the FP performance of a 4C SB/IB and around 1/3rd of even 1/4th of a 4C HW.

Wrong again, 256bit AVX is executed in a single cycle , the FP unit
being 256bits wide.

You could had added that SR has both FMA3 and FM4
wich are both lacking in SB/IB , hence future FP perfs
will be increased with AMD Trinity/SR but not with SB/IB.
 

Ventanni

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Steamroller will undoubtedly bring some nice IPC gains, but it's going to take a lot to catch up to even Sandy Bridge level performance in legacy code. If code is developed to take advantage of the new instruction sets, then the performance will be much greater of course. There's also the recent trending thought that maybe GF's 28nm process may not allow the clocks to be as high, which could hurt performance.

But, we'll see. No judgement until we see it!
 
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A 6300 + 970 board is less than an i5 itself and despite the flaws is still sufficient in multithreaded games. Seeing as next gen consoles will obviously move on from the dual/tri core at best reliance I'd get a 6300 minimum. You don't really need an i5 if you can accept some compromises.

As much as I would like to consider that I cant, I dont want to sacrifice the single threaded performance but if I built my pc 2 years ago I would have bought the phenom 2 x4 and upgraded to that probably but since thats not the case its bit of an upgrade/downgrade.
 

NTMBK

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Steamroller will not match SB in same core performance. And Steamroller will still have scaling penalties when going over the module amount of threads. And they are only 2M/4T. In short, its a terrible downgrade compared to an SB/IB quad.

Either throw in an SB/IB quad in your current system. Or simply upgrade to Haswell.

Oh, you've seen some benchmarks have you? I'd love to see those too.
 
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No , SR has solved this penalty and you knows it.



The FP is underused by the current cores but SR has
better scheduling efficency.



Wrong again, 256bit AVX is executed in a single cycle , the FP unit
being 256bits wide.

You could had added that SR has both FMA3 and FM4
wich are both lacking in SB/IB , hence future FP perfs
will be increased with AMD Trinity/SR but not with SB/IB.

Well, you cant buy Steamroller now anyway. And as for performance improvements, it is impossible to predict. IPC should improve, but as another poster said, nobody is sure what the clocks will be yet.
 
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