'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson suspended for comments on homosexuals

[BoomerD]

http://istandwithphil.com/

rofl...took them long enough.

 

[FelixDeCat]

does calling me a gay bigot make you feel better about yourself? i am actually neither which just makes you look ignorant.


i've got news for you, the bible is just one big book. as for taking it literally, you do realize that the only people who believe that are far right religious nutjobs right?

not sure what eduacation has to do with any of this. just because you are a bigot doesn't mean you aren't educated.

does misunderstanding my message make you feel better about yourself? you love calling people bigots but did you ever think you might be one yourself?

i've got news for you silly boy, the bible is made of two books and YOU are the one who said that someones logic was flawed by pointing out slavery in the bible and therefore we must all own slaves.

stop being such a drama queen....and while you are at it, enjoy being on ignore until December 31, 2013.

 

[SlitheryDee]

The bigger news story would be finding ANYONE living a life like they do, that is pro-gay. If you spend any time in a deep rural area, you'll realize political correctness stops about when all the gas stations change from BP and Shell to Marty's Gas and Ribs and Tony's Gas Stop.

Monroe is about an hour from where I live. Lived in Louisiana all my life. I'm pretty conservative, but I like to think I've carved the senseless parts of modern conservatism out of my own personal philosophy. I'm an atheist, so I immediately throw out everything religious, which is really where all the nonsense is anyway.

I wouldn't call myself pro-gay so much as gay-indifferent. I'm not going to march for gay marriage or donate to any gay cause, but I also don't see the point in denying them something they want that doesn't decrease my own quality of life in any way. I'll argue with people who are against gay rights because it's fun, and because I think they're spending way too much energy fighting gay initiatives for bullshit reasons, but I don't really care what happens ultimately. All the same, put a law legalizing gay marriage on the ballot and I'll vote for it as long as I'm already there voting for something else. Don't expect a special trip just for that though.

 

[shadow9d9]

does misunderstanding my message make you feel better about yourself? you love calling people bigots but did you ever think you might be one yourself?

i've got news for you silly boy, the bible is made of two books and YOU are the one who said that someones logic was flawed by pointing out slavery in the bible and therefore we must all own slaves.

stop being such a drama queen....and while you are at it, enjoy being on ignore until December 31, 2013.

There is nothing more sad than someone feeling the need to TELL someone else that they will be ignoring them. I think of a child.

 

[TechBoyJK]

And you can be labelled a bigot, which you clearly are if you do so!

man you really like that word 'bigot' don't you? If all you have is a hammer...

 

[Wreckem]

It comes down to this.

If you were a company, would you want an employee while performing in the scope of their job duties, proselytizing and telling some of your customers they are the problem with the US or that since they are homosexual they are going to hell? Or that racism wasn't a problem prior to the Civil Rights movement?

 

[JM Aggie08]

Which has nothing to do with anything. He is crying about the guy getting fired. I am simply trying to explain it, which is difficult, since he is a bigot too.

I've seen some fucking hard-headed tools on this forum, but you sir take the cake.

 

[SheHateMe]

Kind of funny you say that since homosexuals don't reproduce. So they don't pass on their genes. They have to rely on heterosexuals to adopt their children.

Last time I checked, Gays don't lose their ability to conceive or give birth because of their sexual preference.

Many gay couples use their DNA to produce children. Gay male couples may have to use surrogates, but that doesn't negate the fact that either male in the relationship can give his sperm to produce a child that is biologically related to them.

Gay women have also used sperm donors to get pregnant.


So, cut the shit and stop being a dumbass.





People used to say the same thing about Interracial Marriage. They used to say that children of IR would be defective, that they couldn't receive the same medical attention as "pure" raced children, etc.

 

[TechBoyJK]

It comes down to this.

If you were a company, would you want an employee while performing in the scope of their job duties, proselytizing and telling some of your customers they are the problem with the US or that since they are homosexual they are going to hell? Or that racism wasn't a problem prior to the Civil Rights movement?

True, but in turn, do you single handily (pun intended) spite one hand to save the other?

In trying to protect their image to the LGBT crowd, they pretty much pissed off the entire crowd that watches the damn show.

They could have done.. nothing, and it wouldn't have been an issue to deal with. Now they have a media crisis on their hands.

 

[Exophase]

i've got news for you silly boy, the bible is made of two books and YOU are the one who said that someones logic was flawed by pointing out slavery in the bible and therefore we must all own slaves.

Actually, the Bible - or at least the particular Protestant one I'm referring to - is made up of 66 books. There were two broadly separate groups canonizing the old and new parts, long after they were written. Some of the books do (probably) share common authorship, but by and larger there are far more than two authors and the books were written over far more than just two distinct time periods.

And for what it's worth, there are passages in the New Testament that condone slavery as well, in case that was the point you were going for.

 

[SlitheryDee]

Last time I checked, Gays don't lose their ability to conceive or give birth because of their sexual preference.

Many gay couples use their DNA to produce children. Gay male couples may have to use surrogates, but that doesn't negate the fact that either male in the relationship can give his sperm to produce a child that is biologically related to them.

Gay women have also used sperm donors to get pregnant.


So, cut the shit and stop being a dumbass.

That's a really cumbersome and expensive way to go about having children. From what I hear the surrogate method is about 100K+ per child all told. Of course that means that the gay couples who can afford it are generally wealthy, stable, and really want kids, so they make excellent parents. However, I would imagine that gay couples with children are an extreme minority because of that.

 

[Platypus]

In trying to protect their image to the LGBT crowd, they pretty much pissed off the entire crowd that watches the damn show.

I know it's hard for some of the people here to believe, but a lot more people care about equal rights for all in America than just the LGBT crowd. Just saying, you might try it sometime, it's enlightening.

 

[Wreckem]

True, but in turn, do you single handily (pun intended) spite one hand to save the other?

In trying to protect their image to the LGBT crowd, they pretty much pissed off the entire crowd that watches the damn show.

They could have done.. nothing, and it wouldn't have been an issue to deal with. Now they have a media crisis on their hands.

This is NOT the first time this issue has come up. It has been bubbling up since season 3. IIRC it has previously been reported, even his own son(Willie) has tried to get his father to tone it down during Duck Dynasty related events.

They can only overlook something for so long before they have to act. Especially since he likely violated his contract. They cannot continue to overlook breaches to the contract or they may be estopped from enforcing said provisions in the future.

A&E is half owned by Disney. Disney, is a company that unofficially endorses and supports a week long event called Gay Days at Disney World.

 

[TechBoyJK]

I know it's hard for some of the people here to believe, but a lot more people care about equal rights for all in America than just the LGBT crowd. Just saying, you might try it sometime, it's enlightening.

My intention was to include supporters as well. I should have written that.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

That's a really cumbersome and expensive way to go about having children. From what I hear the surrogate method is about 100K+ per child all told. Of course that means that the gay couples who can afford it are generally wealthy, stable, and really want kids, so they make excellent parents. However, I would imagine that gay couples with children are an extreme minority because of that.

You know gays can adopt, right? It's not just "extremely expensive surrogate method or nothing."

 

[Platypus]

My intention was to include supporters as well. I should have written that.

:thumbsup:

 

[shadow9d9]

In trying to protect their image to the LGBT crowd, they pretty much pissed off the entire crowd that watches the damn show.

AHAHAHA. Is this what you really believe? AHAHAHA

 

[zinfamous]

You know gays can adopt, right? It's not just "extremely expensive surrogate method or nothing."

There is also the simple truth that gays and lesbians have certainly had straight sex and gotten preggers in the very standard, very cheap way that most heterosexual couples do. Well, you know....the fertile heterosexual couples.

...not those infertile heterosexual ones that nature actually selected out of the gene pool, regardless of modern medicine's incredible ability to now allow them to make "defective" babies (in reference to our newest troll's comments earlier in the thread).

 

[sandorski]

The sad part is that he's been sent to Gitmo..... oh wait

 

[SheHateMe]

That's a really cumbersome and expensive way to go about having children. From what I hear the surrogate method is about 100K+ per child all told. Of course that means that the gay couples who can afford it are generally wealthy, stable, and really want kids, so they make excellent parents. However, I would imagine that gay couples with children are an extreme minority because of that.

Straight couples go this route all the time...but, you know...nobody has a problem with it. Nor do idiots who are against GM and Gays adopting children have any problem with all the heterosexual people who dump millions of unwanted children into the foster system.

Its also not that expensive to adopt a child from the US. It may cost like $100k to uproot a child from their mother country (IE white people who go to China and Korea to adopt a child)...but it doesn't cost as much to adopt an American born child who needs a good home.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

Straight couples go this route all the time...but, you know...nobody has a problem with it. Nor do idiots who are against GM and Gays adopting children have any problem with all the heterosexual people who dump millions of unwanted children into the foster system.

And it's worth pointing out, gay people have a lot fewer instances of unwanted pregnancy than straight couples. There's very few gays who become accidental parents; they have to want it.

 

[sixone]

It comes down to this.

If you were a company, would you want an employee while performing in the scope of their job duties, proselytizing and telling some of your customers they are the problem with the US or that since they are homosexual they are going to hell? Or that racism wasn't a problem prior to the Civil Rights movement?

That employee wasn't hired to pretend to be something he's not, or to espouse ideas that he doesn't hold dear. So it doesn't matter whether the employer wants him making such statements - they hired him to draw attention to their network, and that's EXACTLY what he did.

Those views were known to the employer well before Phil gave that interview. It didn't matter until yesterday. He wasn't suspended because A&E doesn't agree with what he said - he was suspended because A&E is afraid of losing advertisers.

 

[SheHateMe]

And it's worth pointing out, gay people have a lot fewer instances of unwanted pregnancy than straight couples. There's very few gays who become accidental parents; they have to want it.

In many ways, I think straight people are threatened by GM because they seem to work so much better than straight marriage. Gays are fighting for their right to marry and from what we have seen, they are committed to wanting to be married.

Nowadays, straight people get married and are divorced within 5 years it seems.


How are we "protecting" the sanctity of marriage when straight people have already been desecrating the sanctity of marriage for so long.

Its all bullshit.

 

[sixone]

No one was intimidated.

You are a disgusting bigot btw.

I don't think that word means what you think it means.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bigot

a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance

You should check the mirror before you worry about whether anyone else is a bigot.

 

[MaxPayne63]

There probably wouldn't even be an issue about gays today if, when something like this came up, instead of screaming bigot until the person gets fired they convinced them to do an episode where Phil talks to a reasonably eloquent person with different views, or something like that.

I suppose it's easier to just shut people up, though.