Duggars - should they stay on TV?

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Jim Bob Duggar ran for Senate in Arkansas in 2002. His platform on abortion included advocating capital punishment for rapist and for incest.
http://defamer.gawker.com/duggar-dads-political-platform-incest-should-be-punish-1706929035

Seems like he didn't follow his own platform when he found out about his son.

Jim Bob lost the Republican nomination for Senate to Arkansas’ incumbent Senator Tim Hutchinson. His son Josh remained very much alive and went on to molest several underage girls including some of his sisters from 2002-2003.

typical politician...

can't follow through with his promises.

 

[LegendKiller]

Yep. A seven-year-old sexual predator. Which is totally a thing that exists and not something that you just invented because you clearly know more about the subject than a trained professional with education and credentials. After all, she went on to do drugs (something that only 50% of all adult Americans have done); clearly, she's a sociopath and probably a serial rapist.

Someone call LK and let him know Texashiker hijacked his account.

I always enjoy people who quote 3rd parties and use their creds as infallible points of view without engaging that person in the debate.

so I guess not a single person can disagree with me on finance without engaging in a debate, eh?

ohh, and btw, I have a degree in psych from a very good psych school.


Now what do you have?

 

[Victorian Gray]

I always enjoy people who quote 3rd parties and use their creds as infallible points of view without engaging that person in the debate.

so I guess not a single person can disagree with me on finance without engaging in a debate, eh?

ohh, and btw, I have a degree in psych from a very good psych school.


Now what do you have?

This is the internet, what's the point of mentioning credentials when nobody can confirm those credentials.

Signed,
King of Mongolia

 

[Orignal Earl]

I always enjoy people who quote 3rd parties and use their creds as infallible points of view without engaging that person in the debate.

so I guess not a single person can disagree with me on finance without engaging in a debate, eh?

ohh, and btw, I have a degree in psych from a very good psych school.


Now what do you have?

Three degrees from the BEST psych schools in America, Europe n Asia

 

[OutHouse]

When Captain Phil died.

Every single commercial after he died was about him dying. Instead of just showing the one episode where it happenned, they stretched it out into 4 or 5 episodes. They used his death as an advertising gimmick.

I'm not ok with that.

gotcha, yea they did milk that and in a way still are with his dimwit son trying to run the CM.

 

[rudeguy]

gotcha, yea they did milk that and in a way still are with his dimwit son trying to run the CM.

The addict? Figured they would have tossed him in a pot by now.

 

[Blackjack200]

ohh, and btw, I have a degree in psych from a very good psych school.


Now what do you have?

An undergraduate Psychology degree?

That's pretty rare. http://www.princetonreview.com/college-advice/top-ten-majors

I mean, that's pretty much on par with "developmental psychologist and director of the Sex and Gender Lab at Cornell University".

Like, no difference at all. And you're clearly not agenda driven to smear Dunham who you clearly don't hate and are definitely not desperately grasping at straws to construct some kind of bizarre equivalence to the behavior of a prominent Republican.

That would be... fucking sick.

 

[Ackmed]

According to the timeline in this Washinton Post article, the incidents first came to light in March 2002:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-molestation-allegations-against-josh-duggar/

According to the police report, 4 of the 5 identified victims were his sisters. The 5 Duggar girls born prior to 2002 are, with their ages in March 2002:

Jana Marie 12
Jill Michelle 11
Jessa Lauren 9
Jinger Nicole 8
Joy-Anna 4

Read the police report:

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/0...e-report-for-yourself-look-no-further-images/

As for proof, he admitted it.

Then I stand corrected, I don't care to admit it. The only link dropped in the original post did not say anything about that. The ages of the females, or what he did. It was very vague and said it was 12 years ago.

I don't believe in rehabilitation for child molesters, and would have no problem with him never seeing the light of day again. Except it would drain tax payers pockets.

 

[LegendKiller]

An undergraduate Psychology degree?

That's pretty rare. http://www.princetonreview.com/college-advice/top-ten-majors

I mean, that's pretty much on par with "developmental psychologist and director of the Sex and Gender Lab at Cornell University".

Like, no difference at all. And you're clearly not agenda driven to smear Dunham who you clearly don't hate and are definitely not desperately grasping at straws to construct some kind of bizarre equivalence to the behavior of a prominent Republican.

That would be... fucking sick.

And what do you have?

 

[rudeguy]

Then I stand corrected, I don't care to admit it. The only link dropped in the original post did not say anything about that. The ages of the females, or what he did. It was very vague and said it was 12 years ago.

I don't believe in rehabilitation for child molesters, and would have no problem with him never seeing the light of day again. Except it would drain tax payers pockets.

It happens man. Unless you don't have a job or a life, there is no way to read every detail on every story. Until today I had no information on anything in this story. I try to read up on stuff but stories like this make me sick and it's hard to find motivation to read the details.

Send all of these sick fucks to an island.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

I always enjoy people who quote 3rd parties and use their creds as infallible points of view without engaging that person in the debate.

so I guess not a single person can disagree with me on finance without engaging in a debate, eh?

ohh, and btw, I have a degree in psych from a very good psych school.

Now what do you have?

I have a statement from someone whose credentials are more impressive than yours. If I'm left to interpret the facts based on the opinions of an undergraduate psychology degree holder versus the chair of the Department of Human Development at Cornell, I'm going to assume that the actual professor has slightly more expertise in the subject. I'll gladly defer to you on matters of finance, as you clearly have demonstrated expertise in that. Developmental psychology? Not so much. Certainly not as much as Ritch Savin-Williams whose opinion differs sharply from yours.

 

[UberNeuman]

I have a statement from someone whose credentials are more impressive than yours. If I'm left to interpret the facts based on the opinions of an undergraduate psychology degree holder versus the chair of the Department of Human Development at Cornell, I'm going to assume that the actual professor has slightly more expertise in the subject. I'll gladly defer to you on matters of finance, as you clearly have demonstrated expertise in that. Developmental psychology? Not so much. Certainly not as much as Ritch Savin-Williams whose opinion differs sharply from yours.

As for my credentials, I do not have a degree in the psych field. I do however have a Snapple cap that says, "Fortune and Glory await you."

So, I've got that going for me.

 

[SlickSnake]

This show is about a family of religious nutters who think having wives stupid, barefoot and pregnant is a good and Holy thing. Just like Islam does. I would only watch this show if a family of 20 Jihadi bound Muslims moved in next door and wanted to trade a few Duggar daughters for a really nice camel, an old used tent, and some stale tobacco. Now that I would watch.

 

[Hugo Drax]

quote "Will the show go on?

That is the question surrounding TLC's "19 Kids and Counting" after claims that Josh Duggar molested girls as a teenager. ..."

full article: http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/25/entertainment/josh-duggar-tlc-show-cancel-feat/index.html

what's your opinion?

Yeah it should, I bet higher ratings that he bangs children.

 

[soundforbjt]

Well, it looks like most all of their advertisers and even some that don't currently advertise with them are leaving and making it known they don't want anything to do with the show. Money talks, doubt we'll see any more of them on TV. Good riddance.

Edit: At least Huckabee has already ruined his shot at the nomination by backing/apologizing for them.

 

[kage69]

Would have been a good time to stand up for values there Jim Bob, give that christian virtue and morals thing the ol public flex.

Instead, you waited a year to report what you knew to authorities, which was 3 months after you discussed it with your church elders.

Nice.



I couldn't care less if the show stays or goes, it's completely meaningless.

 

[Hugo Drax]

Would have been a good time to stand up for values there Jim Bob, give that christian virtue and morals thing the ol public flex.

Instead, you waited a year to report what you knew to authorities, which was 3 months after you discussed it with your church elders.

Nice.



I couldn't care less if the show stays or goes, it's completely meaningless.

America loves the Duggars. Especially the Bible belt section of America.

 

[rudeguy]

For those bringing up religion, let me offer a little insight:

Christians forgive. It's what we do. The sinner confesses his sins, makes amends with God and that is the end of it. If the law gets involved, so be it. God's forgiveness is not a get out of jail card. The main thing is Christians have to forgive others for their sins. It's not an option not to.

Does anyone remember the horrible shooting at the Amish schoolhouse a while ago? The shooter did unspeakable things, killed innocent kids, all for no reason other than evil. The Amish took a few days to mourn, then publicly forgave the shooter. Even after the evil, vile, horrible things he did.

US Christians have our beliefs and the laws. We try to follow both. Just because our beliefs say we have to forgive does not mean we condone what happened. Just that we have moved on.


Go ahead and flame me for being a Christian. I'll forgive you

 

[soundforbjt]

America loves the Duggars. Especially the Bible belt section of America.

Yep, real family values & morals on display in that family. ()

 

[nickqt]

For those bringing up religion, let me offer a little insight:

Christians forgive. It's what we do. The sinner confesses his sins, makes amends with God and that is the end of it. If the law gets involved, so be it. God's forgiveness is not a get out of jail card. The main thing is Christians have to forgive others for their sins. It's not an option not to.

Does anyone remember the horrible shooting at the Amish schoolhouse a while ago? The shooter did unspeakable things, killed innocent kids, all for no reason other than evil. The Amish took a few days to mourn, then publicly forgave the shooter. Even after the evil, vile, horrible things he did.

US Christians have our beliefs and the laws. We try to follow both. Just because our beliefs say we have to forgive does not mean we condone what happened. Just that we have moved on.


Go ahead and flame me for being a Christian. I'll forgive you

Question: do you support the death penalty?

 

[rudeguy]

Question: do you support the death penalty?

Yep.

Again, just because you are forgiven doesn't mean you don't deal with the law.

 

[nickqt]

Yep.

Again, just because you are forgiven doesn't mean you don't deal with the law.

But doesn't that fly in the face of forgiving and turning the other cheek?

I mean, if the death penalty was prohibited, would you want it to be brought back, or do you simply support it because it is already established law?

 

[soundforbjt]

But doesn't that fly in the face of forgiving and turning the other cheek?

Not to mention the whole "Thall shallt not kill." commandment

 

[rudeguy]

But doesn't that fly in the face of forgiving and turning the other cheek?

I mean, if the death penalty was prohibited, would you want it to be brought back, or do you simply support it because it is already established law?

It's been a very long time since the church has put anyone to death. Keep in mind that jailing someone would be a sin if it weren't the law doing it.

This is a really simple thing in my mind but it's surprisingly hard to explain. What is right and what is wrong is different than what is legal and what isn't. Because I forgive someone doesn't mean they shouldn't have to deal with the law. I would not kill someone to punish them but the government should. I would not take all of someone's money but the government should.

2 completely separate things to me.

 

[LegendKiller]

I have a statement from someone whose credentials are more impressive than yours. If I'm left to interpret the facts based on the opinions of an undergraduate psychology degree holder versus the chair of the Department of Human Development at Cornell, I'm going to assume that the actual professor has slightly more expertise in the subject. I'll gladly defer to you on matters of finance, as you clearly have demonstrated expertise in that. Developmental psychology? Not so much. Certainly not as much as Ritch Savin-Williams whose opinion differs sharply from yours.

Again, you have a statement, not a debate about fact or context. What would he say once you incorporated the other lies she told? What about when we inject reality of the situation into this? Could he possibly believe that a 1yr old would have done this to herself? If not, then who did it? Lena herself? Then what do we think when a girl is inserting stuff into her 1yr old sister?

What about studies behind exactly when deviant sexual behavior develops into sexual predators? Some psychology studies have hinted that serial murders develop their behaviors in early childhood. The anger, environmental effects, and other factors, evidence themselves at an early age. Is this also true for sexual predators?

Could this have been an evidence of that? Have there been any case studies of sexual predators to find out when they develop the behaviors? Any larger studies taking into account hundreds, if not thousands, of predators?

Can we ask this Cornell guy this? No, we can't, which is why just quoting him and taking his word, without context, debate, or analysis, as gospel is utterly moronic.

But that's the Twitter Generation for you. You want a 140 character soundbite to encapsulate your analysis into a petty, topical, and ultimately bullshit conclusion to avoid any deep thought or discourse.

You're a fucking failure. This is why I know you don't have any education, even an inkling of it, in any challenging field. Nor do you make much money or go too far in life. You'll always be a Twitterhead, living 140 character soundbites at a time.


Take, for example, my expertise in finance. You're the type of fucknut who, in 2004 or 2005, would parrot The Bernank about there not being a housing crisis. Somebody like me would come around and you'd shout me out, "THE BERNANK IS ALL SMART, HE HAS ALL OF THE DEGREES, YOU'RE A NOBODY WHO KNOWS NOTHING AND YOU CANNOT DEBATE THE BERNKANK, BUT YOU ARE STILL WRONG NO MATTER WHAT".

In fact, that's how it went on several boards I would post to, warning of a housing bubble. I did it on GotApex's board and people thought I was nuts. I did it at 3 jobs I worked at, and people thought I was nuts. I laugh my ass off now. It went down *exactly* as I said it would. Some random guy on an internet board predicted the whole thing, years before anybody, and counter to supposed experts.

Only dipshits like you take the Twitterhead soundbites and gobble them down like a $5 crackwhore looking for the next fix.