Dune: Part Two | Official Trailer

[MrSquished]

I'm excited for dune 2. Admittedly, I was a bit too enthusiastic about part 1. I did criticize Denis a lot for refusing to release a directors cut with many great scenes which we know were cut, and which were integral to character development and making sense of the plot. He had the footage but cut just to fit into what executives deem how long makes a movie too long. Bad look Denis. Bad look.

Christopher Nolan gave Oppenheimer a full 3 hours, and Denis gave dune only 2.5 hours. He should have had the balls and ethics to make dune closer to 3 hours. Just twenty five more minutes of content of key stuff they left out would have done wonders. Nolan one, Denis zero.

I did leave the theater the first time feeling a bit disappointed, but I loved the story of dune so much I fanboyed a bit. The movie was also beautiful made and cast well. However on every rewatch I liked it more and more, because I had read the book so recently and filled so many of the empty parts of the movie, with the story from the book I knew so well. Ultimately if you just saw the movie and didn't read the book, you are missing a lot of the soul of the story though.

But I'm going to be also optimistic for part 2, and definitely seeing it in IMAX 70mm.

Let's see if Denis had the fortitude to do this one better. Either way it will be visually spectacular and worth a theater viewing.

 

[dainthomas]

I'm excited for dune 2. Admittedly, I was a bit too enthusiastic about part 1. I did criticize Denis a lot for refusing to release a directors cut with many great scenes which we know were cut, and which were integral to character development and making sense of the plot. He had the footage but cut just to fit into what executives deem how long makes a movie too long. Bad look Denis. Bad look.

Christopher Nolan gave Oppenheimer a full 3 hours, and Denis gave dune only 2.5 hours. He should have had the balls and ethics to make dune closer to 3 hours. Just twenty five more minutes of content of key stuff they left out would have done wonders. Nolan one, Denis zero.

I did leave the theater the first time feeling a bit disappointed, but I lived the story of dune so much I fanboyed a bit. However on every rewatch I liked it more and more, because I had read the book so recentlyand filled so many of the empty parts of the movie, with the story from the book I knew so well.

But I'm going to be also optimistic for part 2, and definitely seeing it in IMAX 70mm.

Let's see if Denis had the fortitude to do this one better. Either way it will be visually spectacular and worth a theater viewing.

Oppenheimer felt really well edited, despite the length. I can't think of anything in it that could have been cut without sacrificing the overall story. But much longer it would start to feel bloated (and test the audiences'...physical stamina).

I was looking forward to a full Dune cut when it was released on physical media. That was really disappointing.

 

[MrSquished]

Oppenheimer felt really well edited, despite the length. I can't think of anything in it that could have been cut without sacrificing the overall story. But much longer it would start to feel bloated (and test the audiences'...physical stamina).

I was looking forward to a full Dune cut when it was released on physical media. That was really disappointing.

Yeah me too. When I read about specific scenes which were cut I was like WTF, but ok fine I'll do the directors cut. Then I read Denis was like, there is no directors cut, what you see in the theater, that's the directors cut. That's it.

I lost a lot of respect for him because it's like he doesn't even understand the movie needed more content, including stuff he actually filmed already, for the folks who would love to sit through a longer film to get a better retelling. At least give that version to the fans of the book. He was too snotty, or delusional, or whatever, to even do that. That's a dbag move.

Nolan is clearly the more committed director to the film, at least these days.

 

[GodisanAtheist]

Yeah me too. When I read about specific scenes which were cut I was like WTF, but ok fine I'll do the directors cut. Then I read Denis was like, there is no directors cut, what you see in the theater, that's the directors cut. That's it.

I lost a lot of respect for him because it's like he doesn't even understand the movie needed more content, including stuff he actually filmed already, for the folks who would love to sit through a longer film to get a better retelling. At least give that version to the fans of the book. He was too snotty, or delusional, or whatever, to even do that. That's a dbag move.

Nolan is clearly the more committed director to the film, at least these days.

- Still a navigator sized loop hole there, where the studio can release a "directors cut" that is the theatrical version with a "Fan Cut" that adds in the missing content

 

[sdifox]

Spoiler? Really? For a 1965 book?

 

[JEDI]

- Still a navigator sized loop hole there, where the studio can release a "directors cut" that is the theatrical version with a "Fan Cut" that adds in the missing content

Fan edits ftw!

Fanedit.org – Home of the fanedits

ifdb.fanedit.org

Like star wars vii:
Why did Princess Leia form the Resistance when the Republic (good guys) controls the govt?
The fan edit I saw answered that plus rearranges a few scenes to make the movie flow better

 

[JEDI]

Spoiler? Really? For a 1965 book?

Jesus dies.
- Bible, a few thousand years old

 

[sdifox]

Jesus dies.
- Bible, a few thousand years old

I guess I should have said spoiler tags. As in why do we need spoiler tags for a 1965 book.

 

[K1052]

I'm excited for dune 2. Admittedly, I was a bit too enthusiastic about part 1. I did criticize Denis a lot for refusing to release a directors cut with many great scenes which we know were cut, and which were integral to character development and making sense of the plot. He had the footage but cut just to fit into what executives deem how long makes a movie too long. Bad look Denis. Bad look.

Christopher Nolan gave Oppenheimer a full 3 hours, and Denis gave dune only 2.5 hours. He should have had the balls and ethics to make dune closer to 3 hours. Just twenty five more minutes of content of key stuff they left out would have done wonders. Nolan one, Denis zero.

I did leave the theater the first time feeling a bit disappointed, but I loved the story of dune so much I fanboyed a bit. The movie was also beautiful made and cast well. However on every rewatch I liked it more and more, because I had read the book so recently and filled so many of the empty parts of the movie, with the story from the book I knew so well. Ultimately if you just saw the movie and didn't read the book, you are missing a lot of the soul of the story though.

But I'm going to be also optimistic for part 2, and definitely seeing it in IMAX 70mm.

Let's see if Denis had the fortitude to do this one better. Either way it will be visually spectacular and worth a theater viewing.

I think we might need to contextualize a director's relative pull with the studio.

WB: Denis, would you like to make Dune for us?
Denis: Ok. Sounds good.

UNI: How may we serve you, my liege?
Chris: I'll tell you when to get up.

DIS: How about we...
James: Fuck off and die. I'll tell you when its done, what it cost, and where to send the checks.

 

[MrSquished]

I think we might need to contextualize a director's relative pull with the studio.

WB: Denis, would you like to make Dune for us?
Denis: Ok. Sounds good.

UNI: How may we serve you, my liege?
Chris: I'll tell you when to get up.

DIS: How about we...
James: Fuck off and die. I'll tell you when its done, what it cost, and where to send the checks.

Yeah I don't think it's quite like that with a director with his resume. Maybe not for the extra time in the theater but for a director's cut after the fact? Considering the huge fan base of dune That would eat that extra footage up, I think that part is Denis being a snob and a d-bag.

 

[K1052]

Yeah I don't think it's quite like that with a director with his resume. Maybe not for the extra time in the theater but for a director's cut after the fact? Considering the huge fan base of dune That would eat that extra footage up, I think that part is Denis being a snob and a d-bag.

Coming off of Blade Runner 2049 which underperformed, for reasons not related to him IMO, at the box and lost money he wasn't in a position to dictate terms at WB. He just doesn't have the commercial track record that the uppermost echelon has yet anyway.

Nolan absolutely dictated terms to Universal on Oppenheimer. Including, but not limited to, a giant IMAX run plus regular 70mm prints and a 100 day minimum window. His only real limitation was how much film could physically fit on an IMAX platter.

 

[MrSquished]

Coming off of Blade Runner 2049 which underperformed, for reasons not related to him IMO, at the box and lost money he wasn't in a position to dictate terms at WB. He just doesn't have the commercial track record that the uppermost echelon has yet anyway.

Nolan absolutely dictated terms to Universal on Oppenheimer. Including, but not limited to, a giant IMAX run plus regular 70mm prints and a 100 day minimum window. His only real limitation was how much film could physically fit on an IMAX platter.

I agreed on my post that Denis couldn't change the theatre run time, but I bet he could have pushed for and gotten a special edition cut after the box office did great. At the least, when asked if a directors cut was coming, if he really wanted it, he could say he would love to come out with it. What's the studio going to do? Fire him for saying that in an interview?

He just said what he meant. And that is, the theater version is indeed the directors cut, nothing else is needed.

Dumb.

 

[BoomerD]

I suppose this means that i'll need to actually watch part 1 now?
(I DO realize that I've been slacking!)

I keep trying...just can't get into it.

 

[sdifox]

You can skip part one and not miss much

 

[K1052]

Somebody congratulate Zaslav on savvily moving out of a prime date and into uh mid March...

Follows other banger decisions like trying to make CNN into Fox-lite and jettisoning the HBO brand.

 

[MrSquished]

Somebody congratulate Zaslav on savvily moving out of a prime date and into uh mid March...

Follows other banger decisions like trying to make CNN into Fox-lite and jettisoning the HBO brand.

Holy shit I did not think they could be that stupid, and then wow, they really delayed it. Fucking morons.

Maybe they think it's a negotiating tactic against the unions? Who knows, either way it's ridiculous. They'd rather delay huge movies and revenue rather than pay people what they deservice.

 

[GodisanAtheist]

Somebody congratulate Zaslav on savvily moving out of a prime date and into uh mid March...

Follows other banger decisions like trying to make CNN into Fox-lite and jettisoning the HBO brand.

- Was watching CNN in the gym the other day since it was too early for PBS News hour or BBC America and I was desperate, and shit you not there was straight up a "Fox and Friends" commercial on there.

I literally (like literally literally) had to do a triple take and verify I was actually watching CNN or if I had some kind of hallucination or what.

Maybe this has been a thing for a while and I just don't watch much of the 24 hour BS anymore but it took me quite by surprise.

 

[K1052]

Holy shit I did not think they could be that stupid, and then wow, they really delayed it. Fucking morons.

Maybe they think it's a negotiating tactic against the unions? Who knows, either way it's ridiculous. They'd rather delay huge movies and revenue rather than pay people what they deservice.

The timing is suspicious so soon after the most recent round of drama between WGA and AMPTP. I don't think Dune 2 really needs the cast to be all over the media selling it, I think it needs WB not to release day and date on streaming thereby kneecapping the gross.

 

[K1052]

Iger is totally going to move Marvels into their slot and get an IMAX opening plus another week of breathing room before the new Hunger Games.

 

[JEDI]

Maybe they think it's a negotiating tactic against the unions? Who knows, either way it's ridiculous. They'd rather delay huge movies and revenue rather than pay people what they deservice.

you sound like a disgruntled waiter in a former lyfe?

 

[JEDI]

Somebody congratulate Zaslav on savvily moving out of a prime date and into uh mid March...

Follows other banger decisions like trying to make CNN into Fox-lite and jettisoning the HBO brand.

english pls

 

[mikeymikec]

Spoiler? Really? For a 1965 book?

Yup, if you haven't consumed all the media in existence up to at least 1965 then what have you been doing with your life?

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IMO the mini-series (Dune 2000, Children of Dune) are the best effort of putting the books to the screen that I've seen, and I agree with the earlier comment about the recent Dune movie as having a documentary kind of sterileness / lacking in humanity/charisma about it. One of the scenes that the mini-series hits perfectly is the Baron's "you've seen the bodies?" moment, which is one that the film very oddly waves as that chance for an actor to have a chance to shine passes.

The mini-series does ham up the Baron a bit, and Ian McNeice is happy to oblige, but moments like the one I just described are all part of giving his character sufficient depth so he's more than a revenge-seeking bad guy cardboard cut-out as he seems to be in the film.

 

[K1052]

english pls

Guy who gets paid a ton of money to run WB-Discovery not very good at it.

 

[igor_kavinski]

I keep trying...just can't get into it.

While I was not VERY impressed with it (deserts are depressing), it was watchable thanks to the recognizable faces.

 

[Kaido]