Duron temperatures?

[PlunX]

I have a Duron 600MHz and an MSI K7T Pro. I've overclocked it to 660MHz using the FSB (110*6) and I'm getting 32 C. idle and 34 C. after running UT for about thirty minutes. At 600MHz, I usually get around 29 C. idle and 31 C. after running games for a while. I'm using a factory heatsink and a 5500 RPM 3DCool.com fan. Are these temperatures normal? Too high? Low?

Also, I'm getting a K7T Pro2 pretty soon and I'm hoping to overclock it to at least 850MHz using an FOP38. Does it look like my chances of doing this would be good?

 

[Mikewarrior2]

there is no "normal" socket A chip temp. No one has measured internal core temp(except perhaps amd).

Unoverclocked Durons should run roughly 12-14C over ambient case air temp at best. This number goes up with overclocking and overvoltaging.

If you are within 15C of ambient case temp while not overclocking, then you are fine.

P.S. If your ambient temp is in the 20s, your temp measurement is off significantly.

Mike

 

[Nighthawk69]

My T-Bird 1.1Ghz runs at 43C idle and 52C after playing some intensive games. Pretty darn hot, but pretty darn fast too!

 

[Louse]

why are you only overclocked to 660?? you can do better than that!! I pulled 927 out of my 650 9.0 x 103... the 600's tend to OC just as well... if you don't have the dipswitches, you can just set your FSB to 133 and get about 800 MHz, just turn down the frequency of your ram to 100...

 

[PlunX]

Well, the K7T Pro(1) motherboards don't allow you to overclock using a ratio.. It's locked at 6.0. The K7T Pro(2), though, lets you change the ratios however you want to.

 

[toph99]

so long as you haven't changed the voltage, i wouldn't worry about the temp

 

[culex]

I got my 750 Duron to hit 1000 yesterday at 1.8 voltage...

After UT the hottest it's ever got is 45C... that's pretty darn warm.

I was thinking I could push this into 1.1ghz atleast but I dont think I'll try that... or atleast not till I try with lower voltage.

 

[PlunX]

What's the most a Duron can take and still run fairly stable? I've heard some people talking about Thunderbirds running in the fifties, but.. Are the Durons any different?

 

[Mikewarrior2]

amd Socket A chips take a maximum core temp of 90C, so if you can get thermistor readings in the 50s, you're likely still okay.

Anyone saying their overclocked duron/t-bird is running in the 30-39C range is not lying, per say, but they are reporting very inaccurate(and 10-15C lower) readings than what the actual core temp is. This is due to the restrictions of Socket A cpu temp measurement.

culex,

45C isn't actually too bad for a duron/t-bird overclocked. Especially for one overclocked to 1ghz. Can you post what your ambient case temp is, and what heatsink you're using?


Mike

 

[culex]

Hmm this sucks. I just rebooted and for some reason it wouldnt post. I kept trying but it wont accept 10x multiplier and 1.8v now

I went back to 950 @ 1.7v

Let me get back to you on the case temp later... the FuzzyLogic3 software only reports the cpu temp. I wanna go back to a 1ghz before I do anything

Using Taisol for fan.

Update:

Ok... after benching and UT on 950, I went back to the BIOS and put the multiplier back to 10.
For some reason it posts and boots like it never happened. Silly thing.

I checked under BIOS... when it was reporting CPU temp as 42C, the case temp was 27C.

 

[rmn]

The Durons an T-Birds seem to be able to take high temperatures. How high and what will running at 38-52c do over time, I don't know. My older Duron has run at 33-38C for 3 months now. The HS is just slightly warm to the touch. From reading many posts. High 30's to mid 40's doesn't seem to be causing any defined problems, but who knows if that one or two glitches that you are experiencing may well be involved with core Temp? IMHO temps in the 50's may be just a bit too much.
Cheers,
Joe

 

[Mikewarrior2]

50s really isn't too much, look at it mathematically.

A 1ghz overclocked t-bird/duron @ 1.85 volts, will be putting out roughly 60W of waste heat.

Now let's take different heatsinks and see(at best) how much over ambient these heatsinks would be running the cpu at.

PAL6035(.4c/w, but depends on fan): 24 C over ambient
Taisl CEK...(roughly .48): ~30C over ambient

At 24C over ambient, and most cases in the low to mid 20C's in ambient temp, your cpu would be running into the 45-50C range.

At 30C over ambient, your cpu would be into the 50C range, and the taisol is still capable of pulling the waste heat effectively(they are rated to 1.1ghz).

For any person to be running his/her duron/t-bird 1ghz(or higher) at 40C, he would need insanely low case temp(into the 15C range), or be not using conventional cooling.

Culex,

Is that mb chipset temp? If so, your cpu temps are pretty much the lowest you'll get them at your voltage/overclocked speed.


Mike

 

[MortaniuS]

Mikewarrior, 50s arent bad? Well yes REAL 50s arent, but people are posting 50s from there mobo monitors, which reads quite a bit lower than the "real" temp. So saying 50 is good is going to mislead alot of people. My setup read 25 amb 27 cpu. But really im am running 50 or so according to you? So people who are actually getting temps of 50 are probably getting pretty close to 90c ?

Am i missing something here? fill me in ;-)

 

[Mikewarrior2]

Yes, you are missing something.

newer kt7/a7v bios' add a compensation to their cpu temps. This is why comparing temps is so damn off. Some people are running an older bios, and other's are running a newer bios that adds a +10C correction.

The newer corrected temps are much closer to actual core temps in most cases. So for people running in the 50C range with a newer bios, it would read in the 40s with the old setup. IN most cases 50c w/newer bios is quite okay.

In your setup, your cpu would probably be running about 45-50C under full load. But even with a older bios, a cpu running in the 50s isn't gonna actually be running in the 90s. It'll probably be running in the 60s-70s C. Which is pushing the temp scale.

Might I also add that the only people reporting 50C temps are those running the newer bios(which their temps are fairly close to peak core temp). Older bios' never report temps that high, which is why you see people saying their duron @ 1ghz @1.85 volts have cpu's at 34C. And that, is an impossibility with conventional cooling.


Mike

 

[MortaniuS]

Mikewarrior, i am running 27c idle/35c quake 30 mins, with the new bios for the kt7 raid, and this on my new kt7-raid, i swapped my other one out to see if it was jsut a faulty kt7, and the temps are within 1c of my old motherboard. Any ideas? U can see what im cooling with in my footer.

 

[Mikewarrior2]

What program are you using to read the temps? If you're using the VIA hardware monitor, it may not be adjusted(like the temp is when read in the bios).

you could always try Abit's pcprobe software, or Motherboard Monitor.


Mike

 

[MortaniuS]

My Via monitor reads the same as my bios. I checked the temps right before i rebooted and went into my bios really quick and the temps were exactly the same.

 

[Mikewarrior2]

Then your bios isn't incorporating the new temp compensations. Or could you have possibly shifted the Thermistor that sits in the socket?

Either way, expect your CPU core temps to be roughly 10-12C higher than the temps you are getting right now.


Mike