DVD Backup

[b4u]

Hi,

My daughter will soon be seing some movies, and I'll buy a separate DVD set from my home cinema, a cheaper one, so she can insert some pizza, toys, whatever she might think of that's normal for her age, when we may not be with her

For example, I recently have bought a pack with Shrek 1 & Shrek 2 for my DVD collection (about 30?). It's a great movie, so I want to save it in good condition. I need to make copies of DVD movies she'll see (like shrek, nemo, ...), so I don't end up with ruined media.

I heard about many DVD software that can make copies of movies, some will allow me to choose what I want, some will shrink content, others will copy 1 DVD to 2 DVD's. What I want, however, is THE software that gurus prefer when making perfect DVD copies, ie, copies with everything, and everything in it's correct place.

Freeware, Softwaer, Payware, whatever ... just name a few best software around for the job. I'll be counting on it to backup and save my original versions.

For example I heard of "DVD Shrink", but don't know of any others, or if it's make a good copy, or a "shrinked" one???

Thanks.

 

[imported_Cantley]

I have a 4-year old son and I have the same problems you are facing (inquiring minds and sticky/dirty fingures!).

I recommend AnyDVD and CloneDVD2 from Slysoft.com. They offer a free 21-day trial period. Slysoft.com

AnyDVD, a driver, loads in the background at start-up and removes all copy protection permitting any program to back-up the contents of the DVD to the hard drive. CloneDVD2 does the copying (pick chapters, sound streams, subtitles, menus, warnings, previews, compresses if needed, ... etc.). I have CloneDVD2 make the ISO and then I use Nero to burn the ISO to a DVD. CloneDVD2 will burn also but I have more faith in Nero for this. If you like the products (21-day trial period is ample time) you get a discount if you buy both together.

Cantley

 

[ponyo]

DVDShrink is the best and it's free. It can make perfect copy or "shrinked" one.

I doubt your daughter or you will be able to tell the difference between "shrinked" copy or the original. Check out MrBass DVDShrink guide for easy instructions.

 

[bamacre]

I'm using DVD Santa, which was $30. It's a great all-in-one, easy-to-use program. It does what DVD Shrink does, and also will convert divx and xvid encoded .avi's to DVD Video. It also burns the DVD for you without having 3rd part dvd burning software. (I'm also using AnyDVD which just unlocks the files located on the retail DVD)

 

[KBtn]

Is DVDShrink a stand alone application or does it also need a seperate software burning suite? I'm actually interseted in getting some old VHS home movies on DVD and am looking for some good software suggestions.

 

[Drakkon]

DVDShrink needs nero 6 to be able to burn
Can also use something like DeepBurner afterwards to create a DVD from an iso (that is created from dvdshrink)

 

[papaschtroumpf]

DVDShrinks works great it backs up a DVD in about 3 clicks, and lets you have all the menus and extras too. You can "pick and choose" what you want to keep but it gets a little more complicated.
If you don;t have Nero, it will save a suitable set of file on your harddrrive, than you can then burn using your favorite DVD burning program.

 

[racefan]

DVD shrink 3.2 all the way for everything works fantastic and you can control the quality also with standard decoding and or deep encoding (very good quality shrink) but this will take at least 1 hour 30 minutes just to encode then time to burn but I was impressed with the image.

 

[HomerSapien]

another vote for dvd shrink. I use it to back up and get rid of the ads of my movies. Works great and the quality stays the same

 

[mulletgut]

I vote for AnyDVD and CloneDVD. AnyDVD runs in the background taking care of business quietly in the background and CloneDVD is as easy as ABC. You can "COPY" a title (reducing it in size,but no noticable loss in quality, all done automatically) or Clone the disc (keeping all menus etc). Too easy.

That being said, DVDShrink is an excellent free option, as is DVDEncrypter.

 

[b4u]

What about DVD "files"? I heard about vob, bup, ifo ... what the hell are they?

If that's a DVD backup, how is it created, and how can I glue them back together to a proper DVD?

Or am I wrong and has nothing to do with DVD?

(I know, I'm a bit n00b on the matter ... )

Thanks

 

[b4u]

* bump to avoid creating a new thread ... thanks *

 

[CalvinHobbes]

What about DVD "files"? I heard about vob, bup, ifo ... what the hell are they?

VOB files contain the video and audio tracks. IFO files contain information and instructions so that the DVD player knows what do do. BUP files are just backup files of the IFO.

When you copy a DVD to your hard drive via shrink or dvddecrypter, you'll have all the files from the disc, including IFO and VOB. If all you have is the IFO,VOB, etc. files on your hard disk, you can either make them into an ISO file or just burn them with something like NERO as a DVD Video disc.

www.videohelp.com and www.doom9.org are great resources for anything DVD or video related.

 

[Ioo]

Another vote for DVDshrink.

You can also get DVDdecryptor to use inconjunction whith DVDshrink to do the actual burning. Both are free.

My usuall process is to "rip" the DVD files to the ahrd drive with DVDdecryptor, then make an ISO file using DVDshrink adjusting the compression levels manually and removing stupid things like previews and worthless "special content" and then burn using DVDdecryptor.

A great place to find DVD software is http://www.doom9.org

 

[b4u]

Hi,

It's me again, round 2 ...

Entering Nero to burn a DVD, selecting DVD-Video, I have 2 directories where I can add files to: AUDIO_TS and VIDEO_TS.

The attatchment code of this message shows a dir result of the directory that contains my DVD movie ...

What files go where? It seems to me I just have to add them all to VIDEO_TS and burn ... but I would like some confirmation before I burn the media ...

Thanks.

 

[yukichigai]

Yep, just drop those into the VIDEO_TS directory and you should be good to go.

 

[abspi8]

Where can I find CloneDVD for free?

 

[gtd2000]

With DVD Shrink you just set it to burn automatically after ripping and al lyou need to do is put the DVD-R in your burner drive.

Couldn't be more simple really

 

[bob4432]

why can i not make a backup of a backup with either clonedvd, nero or shrink? i always get crc errors...is this a hardware problem on my part?

 

[FrustratedUser]

Originally posted by: Naustica
DVDShrink is the best and it's free. It can make perfect copy or "shrinked" one.

I doubt your daughter or you will be able to tell the difference between "shrinked" copy or the original. Check out MrBass DVDShrink guide for easy instructions.

Best free solution out there. Another vote for DVDShrink. It's easy to use too.

 

[ncage]

No dought about it DVD Shrink is good. I noticed above that people said you need nero to use it. That is absolutly not true. Shrink can use DVD Decryptor to burn your movies. Another thing is yes dvd shrink is good and simple but its it the best solution...far from it if your going for quality. DVD Shrink is a transcoder rather than an encoder (for definitions do a search on google). If your wanting EXTREMLY good quality backups (not saying shrink sucks) you want DVD Rebuilder + DVD Decryptor + CCE Basic. Awesome combo and blows DVD Shrink out of the water on the quality aspects. CCE Basic will cost you about 70-80 if i remember. If your wanting a 100% free soulution and want near the quality get DVD Rebuilder + DVD Rebuilder + QuEnc (free replacement for CCE). Please note that encoding is a lot slower than transcoding your videos but you will be rewarded with better quality. Also Quenc is slower than CCE but both of them output dam good quality video. I have CCE SP which is the upgraded version of CCE Basic and is EXTREMLY Expensive. I spent about $1000 on it but CCE Basic will only let you do one pass where cce sp allows you to input how many passes. Also note this will be harder than using DVD Shrink which is VERY simple. It will take some time to learn the tools but once you do its simple. The definitive guide is:
www.doom9.org

 

[bob4432]

Originally posted by: ncage
No dought about it DVD Shrink is good. I noticed above that people said you need nero to use it. That is absolutly not true. Shrink can use DVD Decryptor to burn your movies. Another thing is yes dvd shrink is good and simple but its it the best solution...far from it if your going for quality. DVD Shrink is a transcoder rather than an encoder (for definitions do a search on google). If your wanting EXTREMLY good quality backups (not saying shrink sucks) you want DVD Rebuilder + DVD Decryptor + CCE Basic. Awesome combo and blows DVD Shrink out of the water on the quality aspects. CCE Basic will cost you about 70-80 if i remember. If your wanting a 100% free soulution and want near the quality get DVD Rebuilder + DVD Rebuilder + QuEnc (free replacement for CCE). Please note that encoding is a lot slower than transcoding your videos but you will be rewarded with better quality. Also Quenc is slower than CCE but both of them output dam good quality video. I have CCE SP which is the upgraded version of CCE Basic and is EXTREMLY Expensive. I spent about $1000 on it but CCE Basic will only let you do one pass where cce sp allows you to input how many passes. Also note this will be harder than using DVD Shrink which is VERY simple. It will take some time to learn the tools but once you do its simple. The definitive guide is:
www.doom9.org

i read that there the ccesp comes with a plugin for adobe premiere, how would you rate it compared to main concepts encoder for use with adobe premiere?

 

[ncage]

Originally posted by: bob4432

Originally posted by: ncage
No dought about it DVD Shrink is good. I noticed above that people said you need nero to use it. That is absolutly not true. Shrink can use DVD Decryptor to burn your movies. Another thing is yes dvd shrink is good and simple but its it the best solution...far from it if your going for quality. DVD Shrink is a transcoder rather than an encoder (for definitions do a search on google). If your wanting EXTREMLY good quality backups (not saying shrink sucks) you want DVD Rebuilder + DVD Decryptor + CCE Basic. Awesome combo and blows DVD Shrink out of the water on the quality aspects. CCE Basic will cost you about 70-80 if i remember. If your wanting a 100% free soulution and want near the quality get DVD Rebuilder + DVD Rebuilder + QuEnc (free replacement for CCE). Please note that encoding is a lot slower than transcoding your videos but you will be rewarded with better quality. Also Quenc is slower than CCE but both of them output dam good quality video. I have CCE SP which is the upgraded version of CCE Basic and is EXTREMLY Expensive. I spent about $1000 on it but CCE Basic will only let you do one pass where cce sp allows you to input how many passes. Also note this will be harder than using DVD Shrink which is VERY simple. It will take some time to learn the tools but once you do its simple. The definitive guide is:
www.doom9.org

i read that there the ccesp comes with a plugin for adobe premiere, how would you rate it compared to main concepts encoder for use with adobe premiere?

Yes there is a plugin for adobe premeire. It blows away the concepts encoder to my eyes but since im not a professional i wouldn't take my word for it. I would search on google to see if you can find any comparision. I can tell you this CCE SP its a very very good encoder and i don't regret buying it. Oh and on a side note you probably will notice slight performance gains on the newer versions if you have a P4 processor. They seem to higly optimize thier software for intel.

ncage

 

[bob4432]

thanks for the info, i am looking into the basic one and from what i have read it too has a plugin for premiere. i have looked around and it seems like what you have said, cce kills mainconcept. and, yes i am running a p4. i also read the tutorial about dvd-rb and like the idea about the encoding farm, very cool as i have my main machine and my "server" which is a xp2000, i think i also have a 1.7P4 laying around here somewhere i could pick up a board/ram for it since i have a couple of extra cases and make some kick @$$ dvd backups.....

 

[bob4432]

Originally posted by: ncage

Originally posted by: bob4432

Originally posted by: ncage
No dought about it DVD Shrink is good. I noticed above that people said you need nero to use it. That is absolutly not true. Shrink can use DVD Decryptor to burn your movies. Another thing is yes dvd shrink is good and simple but its it the best solution...far from it if your going for quality. DVD Shrink is a transcoder rather than an encoder (for definitions do a search on google). If your wanting EXTREMLY good quality backups (not saying shrink sucks) you want DVD Rebuilder + DVD Decryptor + CCE Basic. Awesome combo and blows DVD Shrink out of the water on the quality aspects. CCE Basic will cost you about 70-80 if i remember. If your wanting a 100% free soulution and want near the quality get DVD Rebuilder + DVD Rebuilder + QuEnc (free replacement for CCE). Please note that encoding is a lot slower than transcoding your videos but you will be rewarded with better quality. Also Quenc is slower than CCE but both of them output dam good quality video. I have CCE SP which is the upgraded version of CCE Basic and is EXTREMLY Expensive. I spent about $1000 on it but CCE Basic will only let you do one pass where cce sp allows you to input how many passes. Also note this will be harder than using DVD Shrink which is VERY simple. It will take some time to learn the tools but once you do its simple. The definitive guide is:
www.doom9.org

i read that there the ccesp comes with a plugin for adobe premiere, how would you rate it compared to main concepts encoder for use with adobe premiere?

Yes there is a plugin for adobe premeire. It blows away the concepts encoder to my eyes but since im not a professional i wouldn't take my word for it. I would search on google to see if you can find any comparision. I can tell you this CCE SP its a very very good encoder and i don't regret buying it. Oh and on a side note you probably will notice slight performance gains on the newer versions if you have a P4 processor. They seem to higly optimize thier software for intel.

ncage

got the basic version and did some testing...did a full backup of gladiator with all of the audio, and must say, there is a very small difference betweent it and the original but it blows a full copy from shrink away. did the same with armegeddon and had the same results. basically, from now on, if i need to give a dvd with shrink more than 15 reduction i will use rebuilder and do the whole disc, because even discs that are ~50% compressed look better than shrink @ 20. thanks for the info