DVD Burner (SATA) Recommendation?

[1ManArmY]

I am in the process of a computer upgrade which has now turned into a computer rebuild due to the 4 year gap in technology since my current configuration. My new 965P-DS3 MOBO only has 2 IDE inputs and at least 4 SATA inputs. My current 2 HD?s and DVD and CD Burners are all IDE.

Solution ? upgrade to WD 320 SATA HD, keep current Pioneer A-08 Burner or upgrade to an SATA DVD burner, any recommendations???

I also had to upgrade my power supply as my current ANTEC True 480 lacks a 6 pin input for my 7800 GTX. It?s all good so all I need now is a cheap aluminum case and my secondary rig is operational.

 

[Zepper]

I would stay with PATA burners if you want to be able to boot from them. The Samsung SH-S182D is working well for me along with my old Plextor PX-712A.

.bh.

 

[n7]

Originally posted by: Zepper
I would stay with PATA burners if you want to be able to boot from them. The Samsung SH-S182D is working well for me along with my old Plextor PX-712A.

.bh.

Err, are there really many issues with that?

I haven't heard anything about them not being bootable
(Though i haven't look either.)

 

[Zepper]

Something about non-native SATA devices not being recognized as boot devices. And almost all SATA burners are just PATA with a bridge chip.

.bh.

 

[1ManArmY]

I found a retail version of a Lite-on DVD burner (SATA) hopefully I won't have any issues booting from it, if so I'll just boot from my old IDE Lite-on CD burner.

What does PATA stand for?

 

[alaricljs]

PATA == IDE it stands for Parallel ATA

 

[Zepper]

Another option is to use an add-on controller. Syba has one that adds two PATA connectors (up to 4 drives) around $12. on sale + sh last I checked at Newegg.

.bh.

 

[Kicker]

Looks like you have the same motherboard as I do. I don't have any problem booting from the sata cd/dvd burner. Like loading Windows XP or Vista. To get the raid to work you have to load the drivers.

 

[13Gigatons]

I just bought a Samsung SATA dvd burner and installed Windows with it, no problems with booting but the motherboard was also new.

 

[corkyg]

Originally posted by: alaricljs
PATA == IDE it stands for Parallel ATA

And SATA = = IDE it stands for Serial ATA

 

[Peter]

The bootability of SATA burners is nothing to do with whether the device is "native" SATA or not.

It is a question of whether the board's SATA interface chip and its BIOS both support the ATAPI command set on the SATA interfaces.
My media server here - an ASUS M2N-LR, using an AMIBIOS 8.0 and an NVidia NForce Pro chipset, happily boots off the SATA DVD drive no problem.

In general, I would expect chipset-integrated SATA channels to do the trick, and discrete SATA controllers to fail it.

[edit: grammar]

 

[Peter]

And now, the burner recommendation.

I've found nothing wrong with Samsung's 183 model, and as it seems they have a 203 coming, increasing the max speed to 20x from the previous 18x.

 

[Zero001]

I'm happy with both my Samsung 183's. I was able to boot Vista on the P965-DS3.

 

[Kakumba]

Just to hammer it home: If you couldn't boot from non native SATA devices, I wouldn't be able to boot from my Raptor, but I can. Anyways, Any ideas as to how much the Samsung 203 will cost?

 

[Peter]

I wouldn't expect it to cost much more than its predecessor, the 183 ... and that one goes for around 45 Euros here (retail pack w/ software, online price from reputable retailers). With US prices being a bit lower typically, I'd expect it to be around $50 or somesuch.

Being able to boot from SATA devices is a matter of whether the board's chipset supports ATAPI commands on its SATA interfaces, and whether its BIOS then supports that.

On the core chipset's own SATA channels, things have matured enough that I'd say you can expect it to work. On add-on SATA controllers (onboard or on-card), I wouldn't.

Note that it matters absolutely zip whether the device is "native SATA" or through a SATA-IDE converter. The question is: ATA command set (hard disk) or ATAPI (everything else). ATA is supported by each and every SATA controller and its software, simply because that originally was the point of doing SATA. ATAPI on SATA only now gains momentum, and not everyone has got their act together yet. YMMV.

 

[Googer]

Bootablily depends on your motherboard. I just installed an ASUS Light Scribe SATA burner for my neighbor. It's great and is bootable from his ASRock ULi M1695 Motherboard. For high quality, my other recommendation would be a Plextor PX-555A. I persoanly use a Plextor PX-760A and despite the fact that it does not do DVD-RAM or lightscribe, I like it more than the Asus.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135146
http://www.plextor.com/english/products/755SA.htm

 

[1ManArmY]

thanks guys, went with the Lite-on, no problems booting from my ASUS P5K Deluxe MOBO.