DVD Burners

[jimikim]

Does anyone know what the next speed of burners are going to be (current max I've seen is 16X) and when they are due for release?

 

[jimikim]

bump anyone?

 

[DaveSimmons]

16x is it. Any faster and explodalarity will ensue.






(seriously: DVD 16x is equivalent to CD 52x, and discs do shatter if spun too fast.)

 

[jimikim]

So 16x will be max forever? Waiting for something higher is waiting for nothing?

 

[volrath]

Dual layer... HD DVD... Bluray... You can't spin the disks faster, but you can squeeze more data in the same area.

 

[jimikim]

when are hd dvd/bluray due?

 

[jimikim]

WTF HD-DVD players to cost $1000 and Bluray to cost $3000?!?!?! Why would anyone buy this........And how much are the burners gonna cost?????

 

[VirtualLarry]

Just wait a year or two, you will be able to buy 1x/2x Blu-Ray recorders at BestBuy for under $100. At least that seems like a safe bet at the current time, as the PS3 will be shipping with a Blu-Ray drive some time in 2005. Consumer burners the following year seems likely. Remember when 2X CD-recorders cost $1500? Remember when 1X DVD-recorders cost $2000? I do.

 

[Yanagi]

NExt step would probably be 8X dual layer burning but mainting the 16X single layer speed. Seriously. with 16X it only takes about 6 minutes to burn a full DvD. Not that long imo for 4.7GB

 

[Dolly]

16x is as much as we are going to see fromthe current tech.
Already at 16x the disk is spinning in excess of 10K rpm / minute and its the physical limit of the machinery included. so dont expect to see anything faster than this.

And do not confuse the 52x of a CD-r with the 16x of a DVD cause the DVD is times 4 thes CD speed so 16x = 4 * 16 = 54x in CD terms.

 

[imported_michealo]

why hasn't a company invented a burner with multiple lasers to circumvent the velocity barrier?

seems practical to me

 

[JackBurton]

Originally posted by: jimikim
WTF HD-DVD players to cost $1000 and Bluray to cost $3000?!?!?! Why would anyone buy this........And how much are the burners gonna cost?????

Calm down man, DVD burners (Pioneer) were $15,000 when they came out. And it burned at a blazing 1X speed. Technology prices drop like a rock.

 

[overclock]

Pioneer is working on a 24x DVD-R burner, possibly the A10 or A11. Still in the beta stage for sure. Hopefully by June 2005 it will be production material. There are two lasers one at the start of the disc and another at about the 3GB mark. The problem is getting the lasers in sync enough so that there is little to no gap at the stop point of the first laster and the start point of the second. Double layer burning can only be done by one laser though so that speed will be low for a while. What will be really great is when they get double sided-double layer media going and the drive will have lasers on both sides of the disc and burn at the same time.

 

[techfuzz]

Originally posted by: Dolly
And do not confuse the 52x of a CD-r with the 16x of a DVD cause the DVD is times 4 thes CD speed so 16x = 4 * 16 = 54x in CD terms.

16 x 4 = 64



techfuzz

 

[futuristicmonkey]

Wasn't there some CD-drive out there that did like 72x? 72x150KB=10,800KB/s? It used a few lasers didn't it?

 

[Auric]

All the other formats still have to be brought up to speed. 8x +RW and 4x +R DL are relatively new but still a ways off from 16x. 16x RAM has been announced. No linkaroos but I have stumbled across relevent consortium or manufacturer's "road maps" and they have speed progressions already planned out.

 

[Belzer]

Originally posted by: Dolly
16x is as much as we are going to see fromthe current tech.
Already at 16x the disk is spinning in excess of 10K rpm / minute and its the physical limit of the machinery included. so dont expect to see anything faster than this.

And do not confuse the 52x of a CD-r with the 16x of a DVD cause the DVD is times 4 thes CD speed so 16x = 4 * 16 = 54x in CD terms.

1x DVD ~ 9x CD in terms of data transfer.

Originally posted by: overclock
Pioneer is working on a 24x DVD-R burner, possibly the A10 or A11. Still in the beta stage for sure. Hopefully by June 2005 it will be production material. There are two lasers one at the start of the disc and another at about the 3GB mark. The problem is getting the lasers in sync enough so that there is little to no gap at the stop point of the first laster and the start point of the second. Double layer burning can only be done by one laser though so that speed will be low for a while. What will be really great is when they get double sided-double layer media going and the drive will have lasers on both sides of the disc and burn at the same time.

Did you make up this BS yourself?

 

[bigal40]

Originally posted by: overclock
Pioneer is working on a 24x DVD-R burner, possibly the A10 or A11. Still in the beta stage for sure. Hopefully by June 2005 it will be production material. There are two lasers one at the start of the disc and another at about the 3GB mark. The problem is getting the lasers in sync enough so that there is little to no gap at the stop point of the first laster and the start point of the second. Double layer burning can only be done by one laser though so that speed will be low for a while. What will be really great is when they get double sided-double layer media going and the drive will have lasers on both sides of the disc and burn at the same time.

Were exactly did you hear that BS?

 

[ELopes580]

Originally posted by: futuristicmonkey
Wasn't there some CD-drive out there that did like 72x? 72x150KB=10,800KB/s? It used a few lasers didn't it?

Yes there was such a drive. It was made by Kenwood called Tru-X by Zen Techonolgy. It did this by splitting the beam 7 times to access data. I have the last model ever made, 72X. They did come in 40X and 52X as well. Unfortunately the drives were known to die out very quickly. Mine has lasted for many years, and I still have it, though it is sitting in a box right now.

Though wow, that thing would install software, make ISOs and DAE from CDs so quick. Between that and my Plextor 40X ultra wide SCSI drive are two drives that I will never sell.

 

[NightCrawler]

16 x 9 = 144x

 

[Viper96720]

i almost bought one of those Kenwoods. But ended getting a cheap oem samsung cd-rom instead couldn't afford it.