DVD exploded in my drive.

[elecrzy]

16x write or read speed will spin the dvd up to 10krpm(only hq discs will las)t...similar to 52x cd burning speed.

 

[billyjak]

I have the NEC 3520A with the unlocked firmware and it rips very fast.
I burn 4x TDK media in 6.5 minutes 8x Fuji in 6.4 minutes.
I didn't try my 16 verbatim yet as tyhis burnner flies.
I don't think I'll need to spend extra on 16x media as the standard 8x burns almost as fast.
I wouldn't get the Nec if I were you.

 

[Baked]

Originally posted by: elecrzy
16x write or read speed will spin the dvd up to 10krpm(only hq discs will las)t...similar to 52x cd burning speed.

Uh, no. DVD transfers more data per rotation, thus no need to spin as fast as CD.

 

[imported_Hi]

How about this

 

[SkyBum]

Originally posted by: blackinches
blackinches says get the upcoming plextor slot loading burner.

I was just thinking the other day in my truck, "why the hell dont they make slot loading DVD drives for PC's, I'd buy one" hmmmm....the site didnt have a release date. Any ideas?

My CD player died a month ago. I dont think I can go without a drive for TOO long...

 

[blackinches]

blackinches says wait for it, and tell us how it is. or get the nec nd3520 cheap and good.

 

[impemonk]

My friend's HP blew up my Starcraft CD back in the day... The damage was so detrimental that the actual HP system no longer functioned lol. It turned out that my friend had installed a JG I20 under his cd rom when he first got his computer (somewhat of a bomb...) to kill his system should he get angry at it. THing was, it went off randomly and killed his entire system, burned his right hand, and killed my SC cd... hahahahah man it was the best. Long live 1998!!!!!!!

 

[Zepper]

To OP,
Well, I certainly wouldn't wait to replace your drive for the outcome of any product liability claim with the disk maker. But I would definitely want to hold onto the broken disk as a good materials analysis lab could get an idea of what caused the disk to shatter - but only if you maintain control of the pieces. You need to gather as many of the shards as possible. Could be evidence in a potential class action agains the mfrs for making the disks so cheaply that they've become hazardous.

.bh.

:moon:

 

[0roo0roo]

the disc would have to be damaged before hand...

 

[Anonemous]

Originally posted by: impemonk
My friend's HP blew up my Starcraft CD back in the day... The damage was so detrimental that the actual HP system no longer functioned lol. It turned out that my friend had installed a JG I20 under his cd rom when he first got his computer (somewhat of a bomb...) to kill his system should he get angry at it. THing was, it went off randomly and killed his entire system, burned his right hand, and killed my SC cd... hahahahah man it was the best. Long live 1998!!!!!!!

:shocked: dayum!

 

[quakefiend420]

Originally posted by: ssvegeta1010
Jeez... Thats strange, but it could certaintly make an effective copy protection method. "Now with Exploding disc technology"

LOL

 

[SkyBum]

UPDATE:

I took apart the drive one more time and inspected it further. I found a small tear (about 1/8") on the ribbon cable right where it connects to the laser assembly. I would imagine this could be repaired but for a $70 drive, the expense would likely be more than a replacement. It's definitely not something that I could do. The cable has a connector at the laser assembly but the other end is soldered to the board so an easy cable replacement is out of the question.

I just ordered a Plextor PX-716SA from NewEgg for $121 shipped. Didnt really want to spend that much but this Sata drive got my attention.

Sure, hope I've seen the last of the exploding discs for awhile....

 

[Overkiller]

to answer your question. my friend had a sony 16x dvd drive (not a burner) that it happened to. he took it apart, put it back together, and it worked.

 

[50]

Originally posted by: SkyBum
UPDATE:

I took apart the drive one more time and inspected it further. I found a small tear (about 1/8") on the ribbon cable right where it connects to the laser assembly. I would imagine this could be repaired but for a $70 drive, the expense would likely be more than a replacement. It's definitely not something that I could do. The cable has a connector at the laser assembly but the other end is soldered to the board so an easy cable replacement is out of the question.

I just ordered a Plextor PX-716SA from NewEgg for $121 shipped. Didnt really want to spend that much but this Sata drive got my attention.

Sure, hope I've seen the last of the exploding discs for awhile....

Honestly for half the price I would've gotten the 3520a, it's pretty much the same minus the SATA (which will be a huge problem if that is your only drive and you have to reinstall winxp).

 

[Zepper]

Hey Sky Bum,
. You do realize that only a limited number of SATA controllers support ATAPI drives, right? Mostly Intel and SiliconImage - there is a list of compatible controllers on the Plextor site. Of course, you can always get an add-on SiliconImage SATA controller but I don't think that's what you had in mind. Since it's the weekend, perhaps you can change or cancel your order.
.bh.

 

[SkyBum]

Yeah, maybe my "assumption" that A8N-SLI SATA controller would be OK might be a bit over optimistic. The A8N is not listed on the site as being supported but they do state the following:

The compatibility list contains a limited number of motherboards (and PCI cards) supporting SATA or SATA RAID that have been factory tested with the Plextor PX-712SA or PX-716SA drive. Your motherboard may not be on this list. This does not mean your motherboard will not work with the PX-712SA or PX-716SA, only that it has not been tested with the drive. Please consult your motherboard vendor web site and supporting documentation if you have configuration or driver questions.

I'm tempted to take my chances but it sounds like a 50/50 whether I'll have support or not (though I do have an SI controller). I can still cancel my order at the Egg and just go for PATA but damnit that feels like a step backwards from where I want to be. What do you think?

 

[Zepper]

According to some info I just saw, the nF4 chipset is supposed to have SATA2, which is supposed to have ATAPI drive support. But it will be good to confirm. You have to realize that Plextor is the only current SATA burner maker (MSI dabbled with it a while ago but I don't see any in their current list), so the mobo makers etc. aren't under any great pressure to provide that support.
.bh.

 

[SkyBum]

If you skip to the 2nd page or so of this thread at CD Freaks.com you can see some of the problems people have been having with the latest plextors (and others) and nForce 4 mobos. Doesn't do much for making the Plextor sound viable for me at the moment.....

 

[Zepper]

Recommend a replacement - PX-716A of course. There is a $30. rebate on that model thru the end of March. Dell had the best price on it I've seen lately but you'll probably get stuck with sales tax if you buy from them so figure it in. Well, they still don't have it so ZipZoom is the best place to get it now ($10. cheaper than newegg). And BTW, the 716A just hit no.1 on PC World's DVD burner chart in the issue that just came today.
. The 712 is good too if you can find one. One of the few drives ever to get a 10/10 on cdrinfo or cdrlabs, I forget which. That's the one I own.
.bh.

:moon:

 

[SkyBum]

That was the plextor model that so many people were having probs with in the thread I linked above (site seems to be down ATM...). Seems like it was having some issues specifically with nForce4 boards.

What platform are you on Zepper?

 

[Zepper]

I can't imagine why a mobo chipset should make any difference. Just make sure that you have the latest chipset drivers loaded and that you install the latest ASPI driver from Adaptec and you shouldn't have any optical drive trouble. I'm on an Abit KW7 (KT-880 based) right now.
. The early runs of the PX-716A were problematic. I think they pushed them out the door a bit early to meet a contract with BestBuy, the only store in the States to have them for the Christmas shopping season. The later hardware revs, 02 and up, with an update to the latest firmware and all should be copacetic... There are updated reviews of the 716 on both cdrinfo and cdrlabs. The 716SA is basically the same drive with a SATA bridge chip.

.bh.

 

[qbackin]

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Oh, you posted a question now, that's nice

There's no harm in trying to clean it all up. If nothing scratched the lense inside and the alignment of everything is still ok, it might still work.

They did a mythbusters on this and they said that it was a myth. I knew that this had happened to people already and that it was something that actually happened. On the show, they ended up having to attach it to a super high rpm drill in order to get one to explode. Maybe the media they were using was too high quality.

I'm also thinking if there was a little crack in the disk already it would really make it a lot easier to break apart.

Good luck with the drive

 

[ShadowBlade]

Originally posted by: VirtualLarry

Originally posted by: ssvegeta1010
Jeez... Thats strange, but it could certaintly make an effective copy protection method. "Now with Exploding disc technology"

Don't say that man.. they might just do that.. engineer the actual discs, to potentially fragment if exposed to the higher disc-spin speeds used for ripping. Would certainly give new meaning to the "rip lock" feature of some drives, they could rename that feature to "shatter proof", keeping the speeds below 2X read speeds, to keep your purchased discs from self-destructing on you.

there are ways to rip them without putting them in your computer at all ;-)

 

[imported_RedStar]

I wrote into myth busters after that episode.

Mine went also..a few years ago. At the time there was nothing on the net about it.
So i assumed it had been my drive that blew up and got it replaced under warranty.
It was my original starcraft: broodwars disk. I had to pry open the tray to get it out.

(took picture of the disk)

I mean for the noise it made...what else could it have been? It near gave me a heart attack.

..to which i can add a smiley face now that the horror has receded from my mind.

 

[bigal40]

Originally posted by: Cawchy87

They did a mythbusters on this and they said that it was a myth. I knew that this had happened to people already and that it was something that actually happened. On the show, they ended up having to attach it to a super high rpm drill in order to get one to explode. Maybe the media they were using was too high quality.

I saw this as well. And they said that for an average disc you would have to crank up the rpm's to get it to break. But the one in many million may be very weak and break by normal use. It was a myth because it was so unlikely to happen.

This is pretty interesting on the topic of exploding CD's.
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