Okay, I said I would give an update, so here it is. Although it took them a week to ship (OOS), I finally got them Friday, and tested them out. All I can say is, I just ordered another 500 of them. These things work flawlessly in my NEC 1300A, Sony 500, and an Optorite drive. (sorry, don't have the model handy). I didn't have to flash anything, just threw the disk in, and DVD Decrypter found the discs as Lonten001's, and 4X media. I have been using them all weekend, have done about 10 of them, picking from different places in the spindle, and have got zero errors. I have run DVDInfoPro on each one, and they all check just fine. They play in an old Apex stand alone my fiance has, an old Magnavox player her father has, a GE drive that we have, and a KLH drive that her brother has. They also work just fine in the X-Box and PS2. The discs have a really nice white surface to write on, (or print if you're rich and have a cd printer). Although these are generic media, they really work good. Oh, and btw, they have dropped the price on them. Only by a buck per 100, but hey, a buck is a buck.
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