DVD to HD DVD or Blu Ray

[whazaaap]

Movies originally released on standard DVD now being released on HD DVD and BluRay...is there a real video improvement in these releases or is it just a matter of space and getting the movies out on that type of format for the future?

Thanks,

Steve

 

[Fallengod]

Well unless they are actually doing enhancements and improving bitrate and such, they are just transfering them to the format for people.

This is one of the main reasons I couldnt care less about HDdvd or blue ray yet(Not even taking into account how expensive they are). Those discs can hold so much more data than a dvd, that if the entire disc isnt utilized, its kind of pointless. Like I said above, the costs of the player and movies is freaking expensive, it isnt time imo to move to that yet. DVDs are just fine for now.

When HD dvd or blu ray is standard, that is when I will jump.

 

[Extelleron]

All the new HD-DVD/Blu-Ray movies are rendered in 1080p and have much better image quality than DVD, which is rendered in 480p.

 

[Fallengod]

Well right, all the newer ones. Is that true for older movies though? I have over 600 dvds, alot of which are older. Are the older ones going to have noticeable difference over dvds?

 

[Matt2]

There are huge improvements, even in old movies. Goodfellas on HD-DVD comes to mind.

They re-encode them to native 1080i/p and 720p.

You're not just getting a 480p movie on a HD-DVD or Blu-Ray disc. They are true HD.

 

[Fallengod]

I see. Ive been out of the scene for past year or so.. havnt really been reading up.

When the crap is more affordable im sure I will be switching. I have a 50 inch pioneer elite hdtv so... The tv is ready.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: Fallengod
Well right, all the newer ones. Is that true for older movies though? I have over 600 dvds, alot of which are older. Are the older ones going to have noticeable difference over dvds?

Watching the Matrix in 1080 is a TON different than 480. It's an older title really. Also I have seen older movies like Full Metal Jacket on HD DVD and there was a very big difference from the standard DVD.

 

[deeznuts]

Originally posted by: Fallengod
Well right, all the newer ones. Is that true for older movies though? I have over 600 dvds, alot of which are older. Are the older ones going to have noticeable difference over dvds?

All the older dvds are all transferred from Film. Film is not digital, of course, but to equate that to resolution would be:

The study indicated a 35mm negative has a resolution in excess of 2400 lines by picture height but obviously we don?t watch negatives, the film has to be processed into a stock reel. Those tested stock reels were found to have a maximum comparative line resolution of 1400 lines P/H, still considerably more resolution than 1080p?s vertical integer. (Note: the P/H formula is used because film has the same vertical and horizontal resolution, where video does not.)

Source

So when the studio re-releases a movie, they are starting with the original film, I think the negative (which is comparable to 2400 lines of resolution) and does the transfer. So it depends on how good their transfer is. But there will be a difference, all other factors being equal.

 

[UnklSnappy]

Originally posted by: Fallengod
Well right, all the newer ones. Is that true for older movies though? I have over 600 dvds, alot of which are older. Are the older ones going to have noticeable difference over dvds?

Yes even very old movies like Casablanca and Mutiny on the Bounty look better than they ever have. Probably haven't looked this good since they were shown in a theater.
HD really shines when your you're projecting to a 100+" screen.

 

[Nightmare225]

Originally posted by: UnklSnappy

Originally posted by: Fallengod
Well right, all the newer ones. Is that true for older movies though? I have over 600 dvds, alot of which are older. Are the older ones going to have noticeable difference over dvds?

Yes even very old movies like Casablanca and Mutiny on the Bounty look better than they ever have. Probably haven't looked this good since they were shown in a theater.
HD really shines when your you're projecting to a 100+" screen.

Who can afford one? :disgust:

 

[UnklSnappy]

Projectors have come down alot in price in the past year.
Mitsubishi HD1000 $865 plus 50-100 for a DIY screen seems like a no brainer to me.


Here's a screenshot thread comparing Blu ray and HD DVD to SD DVD.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=811102

 

[mercanucaribe]

Originally posted by: Extelleron
All the new HD-DVD/Blu-Ray movies are rendered in 1080p and have much better image quality than DVD, which is rendered in 480p.

DVDs are 480i

 

[manowar821]

I'm confused then, why am I getting 1080i native out of my DVD player, and it looks GREAT?

 

[kylebisme]

Because your DVD player upscales the 480i content on the disk, and yeah that can look nice but not nearly as nice as a proper tranfer from film directly to 1080p as you get on HD DVD and Blu-ray.

 

[Sureshot324]

For old movies, they will transfer the movie from the orignal film reel and encode it at 1080p. However, unlike digital formats, film degrades in quality over time, which is why we may never see HD versions of old movies, such as the original Star Wars.