DVI or VGA... With Poll

[KarenMarie]

Click on the MAIN SQUEEZE link in my sig to see my system set up. Just got the 9800PRO AIW and monitor. Which is a better hook up to use to the monitor?

VGA or DVI?

UPDATE: ok... I have copies & pasted all the relevent info on this thread so ppl dont have to read the entire thing. Now I need to know of a game to download a trial of. It should have outstanding graphics. Any suggestions?

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
I voted for VGA because you'd have to be stupid to make a poll asking which to use anyway.

Well, I thought so at first... but with the DVI in... well, when i first installed the card, I used DVI and the quality of the games sucked out so, it was suggested to me that I try VGA. So, I did... game quality did not improve, so it got me to thinking about the whole DVI vs VGA thing.

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
What was wrong with the games?

The looked like crap to be blunt.

Looked like they were all stretched out, and pixelated. Movements were in stages, not smooth. Tried Warcraft, Lara Croft and Diablo.

I dont normally play games, just tried them to see if I would notice a difference with the new card and monitor. Went from 9600PRO and 17in KDS Flat to 9800PRO AIW and Dell 1905FP 19" Flat Panel.

Games looked better before to be honest. I am starting to think I need new games.

and dont laugh... i dont know about stuff like this.

Originally posted by: FishTaco

Running the game at the monitor's native resolution will help with the pixelation. 1280x1024 in your case. Assuming the game has nice high res textures to begin with.

Movement in stages? Do you mean tearing? Tearing can be fixed by enabling vsync.

Honestly, I wouldn't have bought that monitor for games due to it's high response time of 20 ms. That's the average time a pixel will take to change from dark to light or vice versa. This will cause fast movement on the screen to leave a ghost image trailing behind whatever is moving. An acceptable response time used to be 16 ms for games, I bought a 12 ms Samsung and of course now they have 8 ms and lower.

As far as DVI or VGA, for the sizes I tested at, 17", I didn't notice any difference but maybe you might at 19".

Went from 9800PRO on KDS RAD7C to ATI AIW 9800PRO on 1905FP 19" Flat Panel.

I am running the game and the monitor 1280x1024. Made sure of this in both the game software and the AIW Catalyst Control Center. As far as the monitor... ok, honestly... I did not buy it to play games... the only games I play for the most part are solitare and etc. I do take a lot of digital pics with my FinePix S7000 and edit them in PSP, so I wanted better quality card and monitor that I had.

The whole thing happened like this...

When I got the old monitor about a year ago... I tried to justify the cost to the b/f (who will only buy tools, btw) how nice the games looked. Put in Diablo and it looked like watching a movie. So, when I shelled out for this card and monitor, I wanted to show him how much of an improvement it was... except it wasnt. It looked worse.

Pics and stuff look gorgeous. Very nice. I wish the font on screens like this were bolder, but hey, one of these days I will figure out how to do that. Someone told me to try the VGA instead of the DVI and it might make it better, but it has not.

 

[KLin]

DVI

 

[BrokenVisage]

Digital > Analog. /thread

 

[Czar]

who voted for vga and why?

 

[yankeesfan]

Originally posted by: Czar
who voted for vga and why?

Sounds like vagina.

 

[Cattlegod]

you won't notice a difference.

 

[mercanucaribe]

I voted for VGA because you'd have to be stupid to make a poll asking which to use anyway.

 

[KarenMarie]

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
I voted for VGA because you'd have to be stupid to make a poll asking which to use anyway.

Well, I thought so at first... but with the DVI in... well, when i first installed the card, I used DVI and the quality of the games sucked out so, it was suggested to me that I try VGA. So, I did... game quality did not improve, so it got me to thinking about the whole DVI vs VGA thing.

 

[imported_Kensai]

DVI. Digital pr0n.

 

[piroroadkill]

DVI. Simple question, simple answer.

 

[RichUK]

i use DVI, on my 19 inch 8ms TFT LG flat screen yum yum


VGA is for losers on their old 15inch CRT's .. lol

 

[TitanDiddly]

DVI.

My CRT has DVI.

 

[mercanucaribe]

What was wrong with the games?

 

[So]

DVI. You'd have to be a dummy to even consider VGA over DVI when all else is equal (you have DVI on both card and monitor, neither are being used for another comp, etc)

 

[KarenMarie]

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
What was wrong with the games?

The looked like crap to be blunt.

Looked like they were all stretched out, and pixelated. Movements were in stages, not smooth. Tried Warcraft, Lara Croft and Diablo.

I dont normally play games, just tried them to see if I would notice a difference with the new card and monitor. Went from 9600PRO and 17in KDS Flat to 9800PRO AIW and Dell 1905FP 19" Flat Panel.

Games looked better before to be honest. I am starting to think I need new games.

and dont laugh... i dont know about stuff like this.

 

[So]

Originally posted by: KarenMarie

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
What was wrong with the games?

The looked like crap to be blunt.

Looked like they were all stretched out, and pixelated. Movements were in stages, not smooth. Tried Warcraft, Lara Croft and Diablo.

I dont normally play games, just tried them to see if I would notice a difference with the new card and monitor. Went from 9600PRO and 17in KDS Flat to 9800PRO AIW and Dell 1905FP 19" Flat Panel.

Games looked better before to be honest. I am starting to think I need new games.

and dont laugh... i dont know about stuff like this.

Make sure that you're running the screen at 1280x1024 (almost certainly your panel's native resolution) -- otherwise, things will look blurry.

 

[Crescent13]

I notice a huge difference in clarity when I use DVI as opposed to VGA, so therefore

DFI>VGA /thread

 

[KarenMarie]

Originally posted by: So

Make sure that you're running the screen at 1280x1024 (almost certainly your panel's native resolution) -- otherwise, things will look blurry.

checked it over and over again.

probably just the games as everything else looks great.

 

[aatf510]

Originally posted by: PhasmatisNox
DVI.

My CRT has DVI.

What CRT has DVI?
I am interested to get one of those.

 

[So]

Originally posted by: KarenMarie

Originally posted by: So

Make sure that you're running the screen at 1280x1024 (almost certainly your panel's native resolution) -- otherwise, things will look blurry.

checked it over and over again.

probably just the games as everything else looks great.

Are you sure that the games themselves are not running at a different resolution?

 

[imported_FishTaco]

Originally posted by: KarenMarie

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
What was wrong with the games?

The looked like crap to be blunt.

Looked like they were all stretched out, and pixelated. Movements were in stages, not smooth. Tried Warcraft, Lara Croft and Diablo.

I dont normally play games, just tried them to see if I would notice a difference with the new card and monitor. Went from 9600PRO and 17in KDS Flat to 9800PRO AIW and Dell 1905FP 19" Flat Panel.

Games looked better before to be honest. I am starting to think I need new games.

and dont laugh... i dont know about stuff like this.

Running the game at the monitor's native resolution will help with the pixelation. 1280x1024 in your case. Assuming the game has nice high res textures to begin with.

Movement in stages? Do you mean tearing? Tearing can be fixed by enabling vsync.

Honestly, I wouldn't have bought that monitor for games due to it's high response time of 20 ms. That's the average time a pixel will take to change from dark to light or vice versa. This will cause fast movement on the screen to leave a ghost image trailing behind whatever is moving. An acceptable response time used to be 16 ms for games, I bought a 12 ms Samsung and of course now they have 8 ms and lower.

As far as DVI or VGA, for the sizes I tested at, 17", I didn't notice any difference but maybe you might at 19".

 

[So]

Originally posted by: toattett

Originally posted by: PhasmatisNox
DVI.

My CRT has DVI.

What CRT has DVI?
I am interested to get one of those.

A CRT would not look any better with DVI, since a CRT is inherently an analog device, all you're doing is shifting the location of the D->A Converter upstream, from the card to the monitor. The improvement would be so small, that all you're likely to see is the placebo effect.

 

[KarenMarie]

Originally posted by: FishTaco

Running the game at the monitor's native resolution will help with the pixelation. 1280x1024 in your case. Assuming the game has nice high res textures to begin with.

Movement in stages? Do you mean tearing? Tearing can be fixed by enabling vsync.

Honestly, I wouldn't have bought that monitor for games due to it's high response time of 20 ms. That's the average time a pixel will take to change from dark to light or vice versa. This will cause fast movement on the screen to leave a ghost image trailing behind whatever is moving. An acceptable response time used to be 16 ms for games, I bought a 12 ms Samsung and of course now they have 8 ms and lower.

As far as DVI or VGA, for the sizes I tested at, 17", I didn't notice any difference but maybe you might at 19".

Went from 9800PRO on KDS RAD7C to ATI AIW 9800PRO on 1905FP 19" Flat Panel.

I am running the game and the monitor 1280x1024. Made sure of this in both the game software and the AIW Catalyst Control Center. As far as the monitor... ok, honestly... I did not buy it to play games... the only games I play for the most part are solitare and etc. I do take a lot of digital pics with my FinePix S7000 and edit them in PSP, so I wanted better quality card and monitor that I had.

The whole thing happened like this...

When I got the old monitor about a year ago... I tried to justify the cost to the b/f (who will only buy tools, btw) how nice the games looked. Put in Diablo and it looked like watching a movie. So, when I shelled out for this card and monitor, I wanted to show him how much of an improvement it was... except it wasnt. It looked worse.

Pics and stuff look gorgeous. Very nice. I wish the font on screens like this were bolder, but hey, one of these days I will figure out how to do that. Someone told me to try the VGA instead of the DVI and it might make it better, but it has not.

 

[TitanDiddly]

Originally posted by: toattett

Originally posted by: PhasmatisNox
DVI.

My CRT has DVI.

What CRT has DVI?
I am interested to get one of those.

IBM P260.

 

[knyghtbyte]

Originally posted by: KarenMarie

Originally posted by: FishTaco

Running the game at the monitor's native resolution will help with the pixelation. 1280x1024 in your case. Assuming the game has nice high res textures to begin with.

Movement in stages? Do you mean tearing? Tearing can be fixed by enabling vsync.

Honestly, I wouldn't have bought that monitor for games due to it's high response time of 20 ms. That's the average time a pixel will take to change from dark to light or vice versa. This will cause fast movement on the screen to leave a ghost image trailing behind whatever is moving. An acceptable response time used to be 16 ms for games, I bought a 12 ms Samsung and of course now they have 8 ms and lower.

As far as DVI or VGA, for the sizes I tested at, 17", I didn't notice any difference but maybe you might at 19".

Went from 9800PRO on KDS RAD7C to ATI AIW 9800PRO on 1905FP 19" Flat Panel.

I am running the game and the monitor 1280x1024. Made sure of this in both the game software and the AIW Catalyst Control Center. As far as the monitor... ok, honestly... I did not buy it to play games... the only games I play for the most part are solitare and etc. I do take a lot of digital pics with my FinePix S7000 and edit them in PSP, so I wanted better quality card and monitor that I had.

The whole thing happened like this...

When I got the old monitor about a year ago... I tried to justify the cost to the b/f (who will only buy tools, btw) how nice the games looked. Put in Diablo and it looked like watching a movie. So, when I shelled out for this card and monitor, I wanted to show him how much of an improvement it was... except it wasnt. It looked worse.

Pics and stuff look gorgeous. Very nice. I wish the font on screens like this were bolder, but hey, one of these days I will figure out how to do that. Someone told me to try the VGA instead of the DVI and it might make it better, but it has not.

hmm.Diablo is an older game, so bigger resolution will make it not look so good...

have you tried running a more modern game? get a demo of Half Life 2 and run that, it should look ok...just make sure again that all the settings are right, that the AIW panel has 1280 res, normal desktop is in 1280, and the game is in 1280....

i have that monitor and it should look nice with games....Doom3 looked gorgeous, only downside was when you moved, cuz of the high response time you got a bit of blurring, not massive amounts, but noticable.....as someone said cuz its higher than 16ms....