Great post, but one question does Maxwell 2 support fixed-function-hardware accelerated DX12 FL12_1 features?
All current information points to yes, that was built in at a hardware level
Great post, but one question does Maxwell 2 support fixed-function-hardware accelerated DX12 FL12_1 features?
FWIU, the *_1 features were added to DX12 at nVidia's request.
So long story short, if we see improvements of only 10-15% with a sizeable reduction in power usage as AtenRa is predicting it would have nothing to do with a lack of transistor cost reduction as you claimed, and everything to do with this new node being business as usual.
If you're referring to a later timeframe (2017+), then that's fine, but that's not what was being discussed.
16FF+ isn't a new node in the academic sense; it's really more of a minor patch to 16FF which itself is still really 20 nm with finfets enabled. Which would then be a nearly 2 year old node.
16FF+ isn't a new node in the academic sense; it's really more of a minor patch to 16FF which itself is still really 20 nm with finfets enabled. Which would then be a nearly 2 year old node.
That is possible, but that would simply mean that 16FF+ would potentially start out at a lower transistor cost than what is usual for a new node (due to being more mature and thus having better yields), and not as ShintaiDK was implying a higher transistor cost than what is usually seen for a new node.
We see only SoCs on new Low Power nodes, there are NO high performance nodes available for mass production to this day, only 28nm.
If we had 16nm FF+ last year, both AMD and NVIDIA would release a high performance, high price, low volume product to replace the high-end 28nm GPUs.
I hate all of you. Every [redacted] time I come here to see any news on this benchmark I have some Legacy node cost structure BS to read.
Someone msg me if they release a new version of this benchmark or make it public.
Please take the process node digression elsewhere, and get this discussion back on topic.
-- stahlhart
It really depends on what type of article/review one wishes to portray, .ie motive. Comparing a nearly 1400mhz oc card to a stock one is hardly fair. If you have no problem with that, then there's not much to debate really.