Not sure if I'd be upset. I'd probably upgrade actually. Power consumption is the thing I hate the most about my card. After an hour or 2 of gaming I stop because my room gets hot.Lets assume you buy the R9 390 at $300 today, you will not be able to get much faster GPU at $300 next year. Only perhaps +10-15% at half the power.
I have said this before but dont expect a better GPU at $200/$300 in 2016 than what you may buy today.
Not sure if I'd be upset. I'd probably upgrade actually. Power consumption is the thing I hate the most about my card. After an hour or 2 of gaming I stop because my room gets hot.
If I could get the dual gpu card at 300 watt tdp... Ya instant buy.
What are you basing that on? Usually node changes come with a huge leap in performance historically.
You're room getting hot has more to do with cooling than power consumption. Open a window?
Completely wrong.
Almost 100% of a video card's power use is expelled as heat.
A graphics card that uses 150W and runs at 90°C will expel half as much heat energy compared to a 300W card running at 40°C.
What are you basing that on? Usually node changes come with a huge leap in performance historically.
What are you basing that on? Usually node changes come with a huge leap in performance historically.
Or buy a card that's more efficient? Which I would do given the scenario just presented to me?No one is saying the laws of physics are breaking. It doesn't matter if it's 150w or 300w. Sooner or later it will heat up the whole room, depending on size of room especially if its a closed room. Thus open a window, or evacuate the heated air in said room better.
I like that, "Completely Wrong" lol.
Hence why I was super excited about nano and want them to continue that trend next gen.You live in a hot climate? That sucks? In a situation like that, yea, it's a best case scenario to capitalize on consumption savings anywhere you can. The flip side to your situation is if you lived in a cold climate where you'd welcome or not care what consumption was since it'd only serve to keep you warmer. That said, I suppose you could get rather close to an ideal case HEDT with a Nano, though that will cost a pretty penny.
And I got games using up 6GB of VRAM, I don't see your point.
Lets assume you buy the R9 390 at $300 today, you will not be able to get much faster GPU at $300 next year. Only perhaps +10% or +15% at half the power.
Yes but the mid range ($200-300) doesn't see those benefits for quite a while typically.
Usually node changes came with large transistor cost reduction.
Isn't this the first time that the new node transistor cost is the same or even a little more expensive than the previous generation? Historical models = ?????
Hence why I was super excited about nano and want them to continue that trend next gen.
I'd still care about power consumption either way due to power bill but yes I see your point. I'll open my window in December but in Texas, it apparently doesn't get cold. I'm suffering here man I'm from the north east it's still hot. I change clothes for work when I go home to eat lunch because the 2 minute walk to may car leaves me drenched in sweat it's so hot here.
My gaming expenses/tech expenses have just been a little out of control. 5 years + of not gaming or buying tech I guess I'm making up for lost time. I've spent so much on my full gaming setup at this point it's embarrassing to even talk about sometimes lol. I mean my freesync monitor will be the third 1k+ display I've purchased. I'd stop but I love my htpc setup lol. Although most here would hate it haha.
I'm waiting till 2016-2017 so that cases will be out for my new setup now that hedt has small boards. That n1 case looks so cool I want something like that!
As for you PC expenditures.....
Why would you be embarrassed? It is your money and your life. There is nothing wrong with spending your own money on things you enjoy. That is what it is all about and it doesnt matter if there are others who dont get it. Its your hobby and it brings you joy. Unless you are maxing out credit cards, burying yourself in mountains of debt with an obsessive spending addiction- you have no reason for shame.
Your hobby is actually great compared to some. Its not dangerous or at odds with any law. There are people out there hooked on really reckless past times. See, we all have interest and we all need outlets. If you worked worked worked and never had no time or money for the things you enjoy and love to do.......what life is that?
I'd still care about power consumption either way due to power bill but yes I see your point. I'll open my window in December but in Texas, it apparently doesn't get cold. I'm suffering here man I'm from the north east it's still hot. I change clothes for work when I go home to eat lunch because the 2 minute walk to may car leaves me drenched in sweat it's so hot here.
I don't know about that.
May 2013 = GTX780 $650
November 2013 = R9 290 $400
or
November 2013 = GTX780Ti $699
September 2014 = GTX970 $330 with similar performance, more VRAM, lower power usage, more up-to-date features
Another way to look at it, if GTX970 successor has 1.5X the performance, it ends up faster than the Titan X. Do you honestly think Pascal will offer less than 1.5X the performance/watt increase given it'll have 16nm node shrink + new architecture + HBM?
Even if NV holds back the Big Daddy Pascal and just gives us GTX970/980 successors, the price/performance increase should be dramatic. Go check Newegg right now - most GTX980s are selling for $480+, Fury is selling for $550+. Do you honestly think we won't have a card for $350 as fast as the 980 in 2016 and a card 30% faster than the 980/Fury for $550?
I can grantee that it will be more than 40% faster but of course expensive.Same 28nm process, next year GPUs will be made from the more expensive 16nm FF.
Like 2012 between GTX580 vs GTX680, GTX970/980 successor will step up to GTX980Ti/Titan X.
2016
Im expecting a GP204 (Pascal) to be 15-30% faster than GM200 (GTX980Ti) at half the power BUT AT THE SAME Price of $750.
I'm from the cold north of Britain and living in Guangzhou, China, I feel your pain man.
I got used to having 3 showers a day now.
Same 28nm process, next year GPUs will be made from the more expensive 16nm FF.
Like 2012 between GTX580 vs GTX680, GTX970/980 successor will step up to GTX980Ti/Titan X.
2016
Im expecting a GP204 (Pascal) to be 15-30% faster than GM200 (GTX980Ti) at half the power BUT AT THE SAME Price of $750.
Isn't that why Nvidia requested they turn it off, because it blew hardcore on their hardware?
IE an GCN application of AS is bad for NV hardware since they aren't using hardware for the switching.
Yet, if there is AS in the Fable benchmarks, it didn't crush NV like it did in AOTS.
Again, I'm not saying that Maxwell2 has a better implementation. For all we know it is bare minimums to fit the requirements and claim support. But because it blows doesn't mean it isn't supported.
Go back and see how much the HD6950 was released in 2011 and how much the HD7850 was released in 2012.
2011
HD6970 @ $350
HD6950 @ $250
2012
HD7870 @ $350
HD7850 @ $300
HD7870 was just 5-10% faster than HD6970 at lower power consumption at the same price.