E4300 Overclocks?

[IHaveNoSpaceBar]

Post your speeds..

 

[tylerw13]

i just got my e4300 and i can get it to boot to windows at 3.6 but when it still tries to finish i get the blue screen of death....i think its my mobo though i honestly think that i could push this thing alot more...my temps are 42c at full load on water cooling i wish i didnt have a dumb sucky mobo...lol my specs

e4300 @3.575 gigs
2 gigs ram
windows vista business
evga 680i
nvidia gtx 8800

 

[tallman45]

So much for the E6300 and E6400 once everyone sees what an E4300 can do

 

[IHaveNoSpaceBar]

Originally posted by: tylerw13
i just got my e4300 and i can get it to boot to windows at 3.6 but when it still tries to finish i get the blue screen of death....i think its my mobo though i honestly think that i could push this thing alot more...my temps are 42c at full load on water cooling i wish i didnt have a dumb sucky mobo...lol my specs

e4300 @3.575 gigs
2 gigs ram
windows vista business
evga 680i
nvidia gtx 8800

are you serious? i can't get this thing past 2.7 and im sad. then again im still learning how to overclock this setup..last setup was opteron 146 that i had at 2.9ghz..i swear this system is slower...

 

[tylerw13]

Originally posted by: IHaveNoSpaceBar

Originally posted by: tylerw13
i just got my e4300 and i can get it to boot to windows at 3.6 but when it still tries to finish i get the blue screen of death....i think its my mobo though i honestly think that i could push this thing alot more...my temps are 42c at full load on water cooling i wish i didnt have a dumb sucky mobo...lol my specs

e4300 @3.575 gigs
2 gigs ram
windows vista business
evga 680i
nvidia gtx 8800

are you serious? i can't get this thing past 2.7 and im sad. then again im still learning how to overclock this setup..last setup was opteron 146 that i had at 2.9ghz..i swear this system is slower...

i dont know what week mine is or anything it has some wierd number its a q643a real honestly i wish i had a different mobo to try this thing out on...this thing seems like it could be a sweet one....its nuts that i have it running at 3.6 with only 1.475 v core im really impressed with what this thing can do...it out preforms my e6600 at 3.3 gigs....this mobo sux ass though...it has all sorts of crazy fsb walls and bsod crap!!! :disgust:

 

[Cheex]

Originally posted by: tallman45
So much for the E6300 and E6400 once everyone sees what an E4300 can do

That's true but i'm waiting on the E4400.

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: Cheex

Originally posted by: tallman45
So much for the E6300 and E6400 once everyone sees what an E4300 can do

That's true but i'm waiting on the E4400.

The E4300 would and should not OC much better then current E6300-E6400 stocks...the only differnec is the E4300 with its lower default multiplier may give you a shot on a weaker mobo. That being said there are several mobos with FSB holes in the 333-400 range so that could be issue for E4300 owners if they cannot hit 3.6ghz...In the end they may have to use the 8x multiplier like the E6400 anyways...

Only time will tell...

Plus most people who bought the Fryes special will be hard pressed to get 2.2ghz...wait for most of those individuals to get real mobos for overlcoking to see a bunch of results...


according to calculations a stock E4300-E630-E6400 are 65w...

At 3.2ghz for all of the cpus at around 1.375v (which most seem to do it at) it has doubled nearly to 120watts. Low ed water coolers cool to a range of 125watts. Higher end onse around 175-200watts.

at 3.5-3.6ghz where most need 1.46-1.5v we are at 161watts. This is a stretch on most air cooling period....


For comparison my QX6700 at 3.5ghz with 1.42v is 189watts

To get 3.6ghz stable it needs 1.5v actual (1.6v set in bios) is 217watts...Makes my chilled water break its knees...

 

[wadewood]

I bought a 4300 on the Frys deal. I have a Biostar P965 and 6300 that runs stable at 7*510=3570Mhz(on water cooling setup). The 4300 chip I bought was a poor performer; It would only clock to 3100 and would freeze up anything above that. I tried different multipliers with no luck. It was only Orthos stable to about 3000.

Since the Frys deal also does not work with the MB they packaged with it out of the box, I returned it.

 

[Markfw]

Originally posted by: wadewood
I bought a 4300 on the Frys deal. I have a Biostar P965 and 6300 that runs stable at 7*510=3570Mhz(on water cooling setup). The 4300 chip I bought was a poor performer; It would only clock to 3100 and would freeze up anything above that. I tried different multipliers with no luck. It was only Orthos stable to about 3000.

Since the Frys deal also does not work with the MB they packaged with it out of the box, I returned it.

Sure it works after you update the bios.... I did. But my idea of 300 or 320x9 wouldn;t work. My other motherboard did 320, but this new bios, won't even go past that, and with my SCSI card on the PCI bus, it will only do 210 from 200 on DDR. I will be getting another S3 or DS3 soon, and then we will see whats up.

 

[Cheex]

Originally posted by: Duvie
according to calculations a stock E4300-E630-E6400 are 65w...

At 3.2ghz for all of the cpus at around 1.375v (which most seem to do it at) it has doubled nearly to 120watts. Low ed water coolers cool to a range of 125watts. Higher end onse around 175-200watts.

at 3.5-3.6ghz where most need 1.46-1.5v we are at 161watts. This is a stretch on most air cooling period....


For comparison my QX6700 at 3.5ghz with 1.42v is 189watts

To get 3.6ghz stable it needs 1.5v actual (1.6v set in bios) is 217watts...Makes my chilled water break its knees...

(1) How can I check how much watts my system is drawing?
(2) What effect does the increased wattage/power/cooling have on my OC?

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: Cheex

Originally posted by: Duvie
according to calculations a stock E4300-E630-E6400 are 65w...

At 3.2ghz for all of the cpus at around 1.375v (which most seem to do it at) it has doubled nearly to 120watts. Low ed water coolers cool to a range of 125watts. Higher end onse around 175-200watts.

at 3.5-3.6ghz where most need 1.46-1.5v we are at 161watts. This is a stretch on most air cooling period....


For comparison my QX6700 at 3.5ghz with 1.42v is 189watts

To get 3.6ghz stable it needs 1.5v actual (1.6v set in bios) is 217watts...Makes my chilled water break its knees...

(1) How can I check how much watts my system is drawing?
(2) What effect does the increased wattage/power/cooling have on my OC?

1) Go here... http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculator.jsp

2)It is variable but they all have effects. Undersize power supply will limit your OC and possibly make the system flaky if it is close to the edge. Cooling for the most part has little effect on system power draw since it is often just a fan, but water cooling and chilled water with the pumps will have additional draws....

 

[IHaveNoSpaceBar]

Originally posted by: wadewood
I bought a 4300 on the Frys deal. I have a Biostar P965 and 6300 that runs stable at 7*510=3570Mhz(on water cooling setup). The 4300 chip I bought was a poor performer; It would only clock to 3100 and would freeze up anything above that. I tried different multipliers with no luck. It was only Orthos stable to about 3000.

Since the Frys deal also does not work with the MB they packaged with it out of the box, I returned it.

my 4300 is a very poor performer as well(from frys). I cant get past 325fsb...but maybe its the gigabyte s3? Maybe I will give a e6300 a shot and biostar. How can one tell if the FSB wall is a mobo issue or a cpu issue?

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: IHaveNoSpaceBar

Originally posted by: wadewood
I bought a 4300 on the Frys deal. I have a Biostar P965 and 6300 that runs stable at 7*510=3570Mhz(on water cooling setup). The 4300 chip I bought was a poor performer; It would only clock to 3100 and would freeze up anything above that. I tried different multipliers with no luck. It was only Orthos stable to about 3000.

Since the Frys deal also does not work with the MB they packaged with it out of the box, I returned it.

my 4300 is a very poor performer as well(from frys). I cant get past 325fsb...but maybe its the gigabyte s3? Maybe I will give a e6300 a shot and biostar. How can one tell if the FSB wall is a mobo issue or a cpu issue?

9x325 is 2775mhz....

Driop the multi to 6x400 and see if it will run 2.4ghz...iof it does then it isn't themobo...


I have had 3 S3s and MarkFW900 has like 3or4 and all of them did 400fsb and most do 480+-500fsb....

I doubt it is the board.

I would lean more towards incorrect bios setting, ram timings and settings, etc...
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I have never found an FSB wall on the S3....

 

[IHaveNoSpaceBar]

tried that just now..every time the fsb goes above 320 or so it will reset my settings to 200fsb x any multiplier i picked...so when i had it on 350x6, it reset my settings 200x6 after reboot..i tried different ram..so that can't be the problem.

 

[Roguestar]

Try 401 and not 400?

 

[bznotins]

Gigabyte 965P-S3 here, air-cooled with a Thermalright 120 Ultra.

I can get it into windows at 9x375 (3.4ghz) but it won't run Orthos stable. The most vcore I'm willing to go is 1.45, so it might do better if I cranked that up.

The best I can do that will run Orthos stable is 9x350 (3.2ghz @ 1.425v). I would like to do better than that, but I don't know if I should really be complaining about a 75% overclock...

 

[Cheex]

Originally posted by: Duvie

Originally posted by: Cheex

(1) How can I check how much watts my system is drawing?
(2) What effect does the increased wattage/power/cooling have on my OC?

1) Go here... http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculator.jsp

2)It is variable but they all have effects. Undersize power supply will limit your OC and possibly make the system flaky if it is close to the edge. Cooling for the most part has little effect on system power draw since it is often just a fan, but water cooling and chilled water with the pumps will have additional draws....

WTF?!!
My system drawing 487W!!

 

[Diogenes2]

Looks like the 4300's are needing some high vcore to hit 3g+ ...

This came to mind when Anand said they needed almost 1.5 to get 3.4 ..

Looks like these may be down-binned 6300, 6400, etc ...

 

[RamIt]

Originally posted by: Cheex
WTF?!!
My system drawing 487W!!

No i belive that is the recomended minimum power supply wattage.
The page shows my computer needing 250w but runs fine on a 130w ps.

Pentium M @ 2.26 ghz
2 sticks of ram
dvdrw
GeForce go 6800 ultra
modem
wireless
usb drives, keyboard and mouse

 

[Avalon]

Originally posted by: Roguestar
Try 401 and not 400?

That's what I was thinking. Everyone that is having problems going above the low 300s should drop their multiplier down to 7x and try 401FSB. Should be well within the limits of the chip, and if it posts, it's your mobo having a FSB hole. You'll have to juggle between multipliers while increasing your FSB to get the max stable OC out of this chip.

Duvie, I tried that PSU calculator and it made me LOL. It said it recommended I have close to a 700W PSU, when my system runs perfectly fine off my 460W Enermax.

 

[InterHmai]

I am using a GA-965P DS3 with a Tuniq 120, and can get it to 362x9 @ 1.43 vcore (might be 1 vcore setting higher). I can't seem to get it stable past 370fsb. I can get it to post up to 390fsb by bumping the vCore to 1.5 but Orthos fails left and right.

 

[Avalon]

Originally posted by: InterHmai
I am using a GA-965P DS3 with a Tuniq 120, and can get it to 362x9 @ 1.43 vcore (might be 1 vcore setting higher). I can't seem to get it stable past 370fsb. I can get it to post up to 390fsb by bumping the vCore to 1.5 but Orthos fails left and right.

Is that 1.43v actual or BIOS setting? Do you have any way to check your vdroop? You may have more room for voltage than you think if your board droops a good amount. Still, 3.25Ghz doesn't sound too bad. If you want, try lowering the multiplier by 1 and raising the FSB up. A few of the initial reports said these things like high FSB, so that may make a difference. It's worth a try.

 

[heatpipe]

I think I have a pretty good air cooled setup (see sig) and I've found I can't use over 1.43 vcore and remain under 60c core 1&2 temps running Orthos. That's the line I've decided to draw with my new rig. How Anand got to 3.38ghz with stock cooling and 1.5 vcore on an e4300 I don't know, but as they didn't mention temps at all in the article I'd guess they were just below the 85c Tjunction shutoff temp. But then to go on to say the E4300 had a lot more headroom left?

Anyway, I'm using extremely lax memory timings for testing purpses right now (mem checks out ok in Memtest) and I'm currently working my way down the FSB freq's using 1.43 vcore, +.19 NB, Mem 2.2v. When I say "fail" here, I'm usually talking about an Orthos failure at around the 15-30 minute mark. My load temps with this vcore are around 52c-59c core 1&2 in Coretemp, 46c in Asus Probe "cpu" temp, 38c Asus Probe "MB" temp.

FSB (I'm using memory ratio 1:1, i.e. 1472fsb/736 DDR)

1472 fail (x9 multiplier, 3.31ghz etc.)
1450 fail
1440 fail
1438 fail
1436 fail
1434 fail

This is as far as I've gotten, and I haven't had a chance to fool around using lower multipliers yet. But I'm not optimistic about doing that anyway. Needless to say, I might have just been shipped a lemon. However I've seen some other posts today saying pretty much the same thing (that is, massive voltage is needed to OC the e4300 over 3ghz). So bottom line, I wish I had bought an e6400. I'm not pleased with this chip.

Edit: err, when I say FSB 1472 etc. I'm talking 4 x 360mhz core bus. Most of you other guys seem to use the term FSB for core clock, but when I make an entry in Asus BIOS it's done using the quad rate.

 

[InterHmai]

Originally posted by: Avalon

Originally posted by: InterHmai
I am using a GA-965P DS3 with a Tuniq 120, and can get it to 362x9 @ 1.43 vcore (might be 1 vcore setting higher). I can't seem to get it stable past 370fsb. I can get it to post up to 390fsb by bumping the vCore to 1.5 but Orthos fails left and right.

Is that 1.43v actual or BIOS setting? Do you have any way to check your vdroop? You may have more room for voltage than you think if your board droops a good amount. Still, 3.25Ghz doesn't sound too bad. If you want, try lowering the multiplier by 1 and raising the FSB up. A few of the initial reports said these things like high FSB, so that may make a difference. It's worth a try.

Aha, I was wondering about that.

Which voltage should I go by...the one reported in something like Speedfan, or what I set in the BIOS? I tend to see a vdrop of .04-.06v when on full load. Are voltage drops like that normal, or a sign of anything?

 

[Avalon]

They're normal. Most boards either have a drop or overvolt. If you're running on a good air cooler or water, try setting your voltage to 1.5, as that should be around 1.45 after drop during load. I wouldn't go any higher than that though. Make sure t o keep an eye out on your temps.