E4300 Overclocks?

[Markfw]

Originally posted by: nyker96
does anyone here who has both 6xxx and 4xxx can tell us if 4xxx is actually cooler running under same clocks? heard they are like 10% less heat compare to 6xxx series.

Well I have both, on the same motherboard, and the same cooler. The problem is, I can't get the 4300 anywhere close to the same speed to compare temps. The best I can do (not even sure its stable) on the 4300 is 3069. My 6300's and 6400's almost all do 3.4. And all using the same vcore also.

 

[munisgtm]

Originally posted by: munisgtm

Originally posted by: GreenGhost
Two questions:
1. Any consensus on what the best motherboards are?
2. What would be the conservative settings, to leave it untouched for a couple of years? I don't want to push it too much, since its default speed is enough for most of the time the computer is on.
3. After market HSF obligatory?

 

[Tempered81]

2.7ghz

 

[TheDrake]

I have a E4300, Asus P5B Deluxe, Zalman 9700 and I have it clocked to 2.4GHz undervolting it with idle temps at 24C and full load temps at 39C. I havent had time to do much more time for testing higher clocks. Anyone run into FSB holes or walls with this motherboard? When overclocking this motherboard past 1500 FSB will I need to increase voltages on the motherboard itself? Just curious on settings for getting the FSB to hit anywhere from 1500-2000.

 

[Agentbolt]

Finally seem to have found my processor's sweet spot. 370*9 for a speed of 3.34 GHZ.

E4300
GA-965P-S3 Mobo
2x1Gig Kingston Value RAM DDR2 667
NVidia 8800GTS

PCI-E set to 101mhz
VCore set to 1.5 (showing up as 1.52 in Speedfan)
Coretemp shows idle temps of 32 load temps of 60
TAT showing idle temps of 53 and load temps of 65
Memory +.1V
MCH +.1V
FSB +.1V

Orthos stable only to 8 hours, but that's fine for me. Anything after 370 FSB computer won't even post. Memory runs fine at DDR2-800 so I it's either an FSB hole or the processor crapping out.

Running into an issue where if the computer is left off, when restarting it, the damn thing won't post, so I have to let it try to boot like 6 times before the BIOS turns off the OCing, then go into the BIOS and re-enable it. Then it'll boot fine, or when restarting it'll boot fine. I'm assuming this is a "cold boot" issue? I'm not sure of the exact definition of one.

I've brought the FSB back down to 333, where it'll run at stock voltage, until my Artic Freezer 7 Pro comes in, because those temps in TAT are too high. I'm perfectly happy with a 3.3 GHZ overclock, although I do hope another BIOS revision cures the cold boot issues, and the seeming FSB hole. Is that the kind of thing a BIOS update is gonna fix?

 

[slag]

E4300, 3.258 ghz
Intel Bad Axe 2 motherboard r. 5.05 2507 bios
cpu core 1.365 volts
266/533 strap

superpi 1m in 19.7 seconds.

It will boot into windows up to 3.6 ghz, probably more, however, it took 1.5 volts and I'm using stock cooling. What its running at currently works great for me.

 

[chrismr]

Runnig stable so far at 3.15 - 350x9, VCore set to auto, FSB voltage at 1.39, memory at 800MHz.

 

[Polar2002]

My oem e4300 from Fry's combo is a dud. Only goes up to 270x9=2430. No changes to memory or voltages work.

 

[jonzer12]

E4300 on cheap asrock 775dual-vsta motherboard. Currently at 280MHZ=2530mhz.
I have one cheapest core 2 duo motherboards, stock heatsink and no-name pc3200 and should have no problem hitting 2.7ghz, why are others having trouble at 2.4ghz?

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: Duvie

Originally posted by: Cheex

Originally posted by: tallman45
So much for the E6300 and E6400 once everyone sees what an E4300 can do

That's true but i'm waiting on the E4400.

The E4300 would and should not OC much better then current E6300-E6400 stocks...the only differnec is the E4300 with its lower default multiplier may give you a shot on a weaker mobo. That being said there are several mobos with FSB holes in the 333-400 range so that could be issue for E4300 owners if they cannot hit 3.6ghz...In the end they may have to use the 8x multiplier like the E6400 anyways...

Only time will tell...

Plus most people who bought the Fryes special will be hard pressed to get 2.2ghz...wait for most of those individuals to get real mobos for overlcoking to see a bunch of results...


according to calculations a stock E4300-E630-E6400 are 65w...

At 3.2ghz for all of the cpus at around 1.375v (which most seem to do it at) it has doubled nearly to 120watts. Low ed water coolers cool to a range of 125watts. Higher end onse around 175-200watts.

at 3.5-3.6ghz where most need 1.46-1.5v we are at 161watts. This is a stretch on most air cooling period....


For comparison my QX6700 at 3.5ghz with 1.42v is 189watts

To get 3.6ghz stable it needs 1.5v actual (1.6v set in bios) is 217watts...Makes my chilled water break its knees...

Duvie quick question, i thought high end watercooling setups could do more then 200 watts. The D-tek fusion or ApogeeGT, paird with a DDC-2 + 120x3 PA series thermochill kept my QX6700 nice and cool at 1.5V. I sold the rig because i got tired of bugs on the striker/QX combo had.

It doesnt make sense when air coolers can disapate ~200Watts of heat, and your saying a high end h2o kit will only do 150-200. So can you explain how you got this number? i tend to use you as a reliable source thats why.

Also your darn right about the OC'd QX drawing a lot of power. But i didnt notice much of a difference from a dual core variant with my quad core. In some aspects, the dual core was actually a tad bit faster! :\

 

[Tempered81]

Originally posted by: jonzer12
E4300 on cheap asrock 775dual-vsta motherboard. Currently at 280MHZ=2530mhz.
I have one cheapest core 2 duo motherboards, stock heatsink and no-name pc3200 and should have no problem hitting 2.7ghz, why are others having trouble at 2.4ghz?

YEAH i second that, i have the 775dual vsta and pc 3200 ddr, my clock can hit 2.7ghz, but i keep it at around 296mhz on the FSB for stability... equals around 2665mhz

 

[BigShroom]

Originally posted by: slag
E4300, 3.258 ghz
Intel Bad Axe 2 motherboard r. 5.05 2507 bios
cpu core 1.365 volts
266/533 strap

superpi 1m in 19.7 seconds.

It will boot into windows up to 3.6 ghz, probably more, however, it took 1.5 volts and I'm using stock cooling. What its running at currently works great for me.

What are your temps like using intel's thermal analysis tool(TAT)?

I just got this rig put together yesterday so these are early results:

e4300@3ghz, batch Q640A459
Stock cooling w/ AS3 compound
Intel Bad Axe 2, rev 5.05, 2333 bios
2x1gb super talent DDR2 667
P180 case w/4 yate loon 120mm fans
Antec 550w neoHE

I haven't even touched vcore yet, I get a reading of about 75c under full load using TAT. It is orthos stable for 6 hours, where the temp only gets to around 65c I tryed 355x9(3.2ghz) but a I got an error in orthos after a half hour.

I'm not sure if I should put my tuniq tower on and try for higher or settle for 3ghz. Hell the tuniq costs 1/3 what I paid for the cpu

 

[MustangSVT]

http://firingsquad.com/hardware/intel_core_2_duo_e4300_review/page2.asp

3.582ghz!!!! on high voltage.. but still!

did they get a lucky chip? or is it mobo?

Oh, btw, would e4400 be a better overclocker with higher multi? or is 4300 pretty much reaching the max?

 

[slag]

Originally posted by: BigShroom

Originally posted by: slag
E4300, 3.258 ghz
Intel Bad Axe 2 motherboard r. 5.05 2507 bios
cpu core 1.365 volts
266/533 strap

superpi 1m in 19.7 seconds.

It will boot into windows up to 3.6 ghz, probably more, however, it took 1.5 volts and I'm using stock cooling. What its running at currently works great for me.

What are your temps like using intel's thermal analysis tool(TAT)?

I just got this rig put together yesterday so these are early results:

e4300@3ghz, batch Q640A459
Stock cooling w/ AS3 compound
Intel Bad Axe 2, rev 5.05, 2333 bios
2x1gb super talent DDR2 667
P180 case w/4 yate loon 120mm fans
Antec 550w neoHE

I haven't even touched vcore yet, I get a reading of about 75c under full load using TAT. It is orthos stable for 6 hours, where the temp only gets to around 65c I tryed 355x9(3.2ghz) but a I got an error in orthos after a half hour.

I'm not sure if I should put my tuniq tower on and try for higher or settle for 3ghz. Hell the tuniq costs 1/3 what I paid for the cpu

TAT idle shows 44 degrees. Under load it is 66 (orthos). Its not reading correctly though. Get the latest Intel Desktop Control Center. There is one made especially for our motherboard. It shows correct temps.

 

[slag]

scythe Ninja should be in tomorrow from newegg and I'm going to try for 3.5 again. Should be much cooler now.

 

[BigShroom]

Yeah I've got 3.0.10.15 verson of desktop utilities, it seems to read about 5c lower than TAT. Got up to 70c while running the TAT stress test on both core's.

I better slap that tuniq on.

 

[Bobsled]

Some insperation, world record OC for the E4300 Link here

 

[slag]

If its not on air and not stable, it shouldn't count imho.

Stock cooling is on air, so any overclock you get should also be on air.

 

[BigShroom]

Well I got my tuniq put on, but I've got work tomorrow and I'm not gonna stay up all night testing. Initial impressions are not good, I'm hardly seeing any decrease in temps at load. This is with the fan spinning at 1100rpm and two exhaust fans directly above and to the left of the tower. Additionally neither the heatsink fins or heatpipes seem to be warm to the touch.

I think when I get some more free time I'm going to try re-seating it and maybe use the thermal compound that came with the tuniq instead of my old AS3.

Can anybody reading this currently using a tuniq tell me if their's gets warm enough to notice upon touching it?

 

[Cheex]

Originally posted by: TheDrake
I have a E4300, Asus P5B Deluxe, Zalman 9700 and I have it clocked to 2.4GHz undervolting it with idle temps at 24C and full load temps at 39C. I havent had time to do much more time for testing higher clocks. Anyone run into FSB holes or walls with this motherboard? When overclocking this motherboard past 1500 FSB will I need to increase voltages on the motherboard itself? Just curious on settings for getting the FSB to hit anywhere from 1500-2000.

What HSF are you using?

 

[Hajpoj]

I'm a running an Asus P5PL2 mobo, which uses the 945pl chipset. I'm using DDR2-533 ram.
Got this weeks Fry's special.


My mobo only officially supports 800fsb, but it has BIOS options to set it between 1-350.

Will I be all right by just dropping the E4300 in there and setting the fsb to 266 and call it a day? Will I be able to do this without having to up voltage or run stability tests?

I've never overclocked a dual-core before, should I even bother running stability tests at 2.4GHZ? (9x266)
If I have to, should I just run prime95 on each core or run orthos or both?
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[Kampfire]

E4300
Biostar Tforce 965PT
OCZ Rev 2 DDR2-800 2gb
Nvidia 8800GTS
Zalman 7000B-Cu

My best so far is 334x9(3.006GHz) and it was orthos stable for about 5.5 hours running between 58-65 C under load (Speedfan). My cpu voltage is set at 1.45V. All others stock. I feel she can go a bit higher but don't know if I want to add more cpu voltage. Any other ways I can make it more stable and or up the clock speed?

 

[bigi]

E4300 @ 1.425
6GB RAM -> 2x2GB G.Skill + 2x1GB Supertalent (from Hot Deals latest dealio)
7900GS
Ninja 1100 passive (Yes, no fan so far...)
DS3 with extra fan on NB.

339x=3.051GHz - after several hours of testing. Seems more than fine.

I am on Vista 64-bit now so nothing really wants to give me temps. Any tips?

 

[JJordan]

I am trying to overclock and despite much reading am having trouble getting anything overclocked out of my system to work.

I have the GA-P965-DS# rev 3.3 board
E4300 Retail chip with Arctic Cooler Freezer Pro 7
2 Gigs Corsair Cas 5 DDR2 PC800
eVGA 8800 GTS 640 MB Video Card
SATA DVD and SATA 320 Gig WD Hard Drive

Running XP Pro

Bios is f9 - I have not updated to F10.


(1) When I run CPU-Z, it says my CPU is at 6x and running at 1.2 GHz - not 9X at 1.8. In Bios it says multiplier is 9 and FSB is 200 and Easy Tune from Gigabyte says it is running at 1.8. Any idea why ? CPU-Z says it is an e4300 CPU but says it is running at 6x. And I do not have any form of the CPU regulator running.

(2) When I try to overclock this system, I see where to change the BUS Speed from 200 in BIOS. All I really want to get to is 2.8-3.0 GHz. What else should I be changing. I assume I do not need to change memory timings, but should I need to be changing memory multiplier and voltage and if so to what.

(3) Also, which setting is it that actually changes the VCore - isn?t it 1.3 on the e4300 stock. So I need to raise it as I try to overclock?

(4) What other voltages/settings do I need to change in BIOS

When I have tried just raising the BUS to 300, it does not boot at all. I would be happy with 300x9=2.7 GHz. Maybe I need a screen shot of the BIOS with arrow pointed to what to change I am so stupid. And before anyone screams read more - I have been reading but not understanding - it was so much easier with an Asus P2B-F MB and a P3-700 running at 933.......

I have by the way run memtest for hours and run Stress Prime 2004 on system at stock speed and no errors and no problems. OUCH - Temps with TAT from Intel with no overclocking:
Resting 40
Full Load after 5 minutes hovers around 70-75.

That is too high. Found this link I do not neceesaily understand but I think I can read that 70-75 degreees is too much. Core 2 Duo Temps

 

[Binky]

Jordan, try this:

FSB = 300
NB strap = 800
Mem = 533

This should put you at 2.7ghz with your memory running right at 400mhz. You can probably push much higher without any votage increase.