E4300 Overclocks?

[JJordan]

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So looking at this guys screen shot of the BIOS - I leave multiplier at 9x and set FSB to 300. BUt which of the other settings do I change from default - System memory Multiplier?

 

[magreen]

Originally posted by: Kampfire
E4300
Biostar Tforce 965PT
OCZ Rev 2 DDR2-800 2gb
Nvidia 8800GTS
Zalman 7000B-Cu

My best so far is 334x9(3.006GHz) and it was orthos stable for about 5.5 hours running between 58-65 C under load (Speedfan). My cpu voltage is set at 1.45V. All others stock. I feel she can go a bit higher but don't know if I want to add more cpu voltage. Any other ways I can make it more stable and or up the clock speed?

Are you sure you have the memory at 1:1 ratio? The official bios with the 965PT doesn't support 1:1 on the E4300 right now, only 5:4 which overclocks your ram to DDR2 835 at 334 FSB. Check the memory tab in CPU-z.

If it is 5:4 then download the 119 betabios from here. (I saw they had it for download yesterday, but today it seems to have disappeared from that link... anyone know where else to get it?)

Then you set your memory speed to 400 which is 1:1 on the e4300, and turn up the FSB to 333+.

 

[Kampfire]

I downloaded the updated bios from another thread. That bios added the multi modifier and memtest and some other tools. Is that the 119 bios? I checked the memory in cpu-z and it is set at 1:1. According to speedfan i'm running at like 29-34 C at idle. But for some reason if I leave my computer on for more than 12 hours it likes to declock itself back down to 334x6. Any suggestions?

 

[magreen]

sounds like you have the memory ratio right.

sorry... I can't help you with that. Are you saying you can't get 334 x 9 stable anymore?

 

[Kampfire]

yea. I ran orthos when I first set it up. Turned it on when i went to bed and woke up 7 hours later and it was running but had no monitor output. Checked the log and figured it ran for 5-5.5 hours. The only thing I dont know is that if it declocked itself. So I would say now it wont run 334x9 stable right now.

 

[Lazlo Panaflex]

Mine's running stable @ 2.7, 1.35v on a Biostar 965PT board. Gonna try the Intel TAT app and Orthos blend. I'm using the 119 Beta Bios, DDR2-400 setting running 1:1 @ 600Mhz. Temps seem to be decent (for the stock HS)...25-26c idle, load @ 56-59c.

 

[allies]

Could everyone list the stepping that they're overclocking with? I think this would be helpful.

EDIT: Along with FPO/Batch number and package date...

 

[BigShroom]

Update on my progress.

370x9
1.4125v
1066 strap

Tested stable for 2 hours in orthos, 367 was stable for 10 hours with the same settings.

Temp's are starting to get up there, ~65c according to intel's desktop utility's at load. Thought the Tuniq would cool a little better than this, maybe I don't have enough case airflow with 4 120mm fans

 

[Agentbolt]

Might be an uneven IHS or the heatsink itself has an uneven plate. The tunic tower should definitely be keeping it lower than that.

370x9 at that voltage is a damn good result though, congrats.

 

[3LEMENT0]

4300 Boxed CPU bought at Fry's during their combo deal
4300@ 3GHz (1.33x voltage)
Stock HSF till Scythe Katana Cu arrives
DS3 rev 3.3
2GB GSkill RAM
Corsair 620W PSU
SATA HDD
SATA DVDRW
ANTEC 900 case
7900 GTS (to be replaced by 8800GTS)

TAT load at 70-75
OCCT load at 60 (8 hrs on OC)
memtest passed (5 hrs)
Sisoft Sandra burn in (8 hrs)

I'm happy...

 

[JJordan]

I have upgreaded my DS3 Bios F10. I set the PCIe at 100. I am able to run at 2.7Ghz with Orthos for 12 hours with no erros or issues. All Voltages set to auto so I assume that means it is runing at the stock voltage. Same with Memtest - no errors or issues - running my Corsair PC800 memory at 798 so that should not be an issue I would think. Temp however is about 60-63 during most of the Orthos full load testing Resting is 38-42. All temps with intel's TAT. If you use Gigabyte's easy tune it shows temps 15-20 degrees cooler.

When I run it up to 3 GHz, it boots fine and seem to run fine at same temps, but one core gives me an error under Orthos in less than a minute (expected rounding of .4, found .5). Would increasing the CPU voltage from the "auto" setting help that or is it perhaps a bad chip?

I am okay with running it at 2.7, but 3 would be nice too Not sure what to do on cooling. I suspect some of the posts I see saying they run at 29 C at idle are with Easy Tune (mine runs at that temp too with that software checking). I am using the Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro with Arctic Silver 5 thermal paste. Have three case fans running - my room feels like a wind tunnel. Can't really justify throwing away this cooler and spending another $30 or so on a new one. At some point I would have been better off just buying a faster chip

 

[Markfw]

Well, after weeks of messing around, I can get 2915, thats it, at 1.44 vcore under load ! It needs more vcore for less speed than a 6300/6400. Crappy chip.

 

[KayKay]

K with the setup below, i'm at 3.22 GHz Orthos stable 12hrs, vcore is high 1.56 V I actually think it might be the ram holding me back (probably dont need that high a vcore)... still need to do tests

 

[NamelessMC]

I wouldn't bet on the Allendales being better over-clocks than Conroes.

Most of the over-clockers I've talked to that have used both, say that while the Allendale is easier to hit 3 GHZ with on lower speed ram, it takes a high-end motherboard because of all the holes in most motherboards from FSB of 300-400. And if you drop the multiplier to 8x, you won't hit anywhere near the same speed potentials of the E6400 because the 6400 just runs way cooler.

If I were you guys, try a 400+ FSB on an 8x multiplier and see what you can accomplish. It might be the "9x multiplier" part of the E4300 advertisement that's a dud, when what people should really be doing is trying to get a 400x9 overclock, so the possibility of motherboard holes between 300-400 is taken out of the equation.

 

[3LEMENT0]

Updated Specs:

4300 Boxed CPU bought at Fry's during their combo deal
4300@ 3GHz (1.33x voltage)
Scythe Katana Cu + Shin Etsu x23
DS3 rev 3.3
NB Active cooler + Shin Etsu x23
SB + 40mm Fan + white goop instead of the gray TIM
2GB GSkill RAM
Corsair 620W PSU
SATA HDD
SATA DVDRW
ANTEC 900 case
7900 GTS (to be replaced by 8800GTS)

IDLE - range from 28-33 (One core seems to be a bit higher than the other by 2-3 degrees)
TAT load at range from 50-53 (5 hrs on OC)
OCCT load at range from 43-48 (3 hrs on OC)
memtest passed (5 hrs on OC)

 

[Lazlo Panaflex]

Nice job 3lement0. Was the Scythe hard to install?

Btw, that's a good idea, Nameless. I'd try it, but I reckon my ram would be the limiting factor. I'm satisfied with 2.81 (for now...)

 

[3LEMENT0]

Originally posted by: oldhoss
Nice job 3lement0. Was the Scythe hard to install?

Btw, that's a good idea, Nameless. I'd try it, but I reckon my ram would be the limiting factor. I'm satisfied with 2.81 (for now...)

EASY TO INSTALL If you're MB is easy to remove from the case and does not have a lot of "stuff" connected to it.

The installation instructions were not the best so I took time to review the pics.

Probably 30 min from understanding the instructions to putting and locking the HSF with MB removed

 

[3LEMENT0]

Is it normal to have 5 deg difference from the two cores?
I monitored the temp yesterday and one was 25 and the other 30 but when I run TAT on 100% they both hit 56-58 deg.

Would I need to reseat my HSF to make the idle temp between them even?

Thanks

 

[KayKay]

Originally posted by: 3LEMENT0
Updated Specs:

4300 Boxed CPU bought at Fry's during their combo deal
4300@ 3GHz (1.33x voltage)
Scythe Katana Cu + Shin Etsu x23
DS3 rev 3.3
NB Active cooler + Shin Etsu x23
SB + 40mm Fan + white goop instead of the gray TIM
2GB GSkill RAM
Corsair 620W PSU
SATA HDD
SATA DVDRW
ANTEC 900 case
7900 GTS (to be replaced by 8800GTS)

IDLE - range from 28-33 (One core seems to be a bit higher than the other by 2-3 degrees)
TAT load at range from 50-53 (5 hrs on OC)
OCCT load at range from 43-48 (3 hrs on OC)
memtest passed (5 hrs on OC)

48 OCCT isnt that a bit hot for only 1.33 V ??

 

[monsterstealth]

Iam running my e4300 @ 3.24 w/ 1.4 volts on an Asus P5N-E SLI. The 2 cores top out at right around 51C with my Thermalright Ultra 120. I have everything in an Antec 900 Case. I may be able to push it a little more, but I really dont think it will be worth the speed increase for the amount of voltage increase I would have to throw at it. I am just waiting to grab up a used XBOX360 HD-DVD drive, ripping it apart and installing it in my case. Then I need to wait for some new "software" to come out so I can make some HD-DIVX files.

 

[DLimmer]

Currently at 3.5GHz and know it could go higher with little difficulty. Idles around 31c.

C2D e4300 @3.5GHz / Monsoon II TEC / evga 680i / 4 x 1GB 778MHz 2T 4-4-4-10 DDR2-800 / NVidia 8800 gts / 3 x 320GB 7200.10 Raid5 / SB X-FI Fatal1ty

 

[RonAKA]

Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
The E4300's have a 9X multiplier so with an FSB of 333, that would get me 2.997Ghz right? Also, would the memory be running 1:1 with the FSB so any DDR333 ram would be fine?

Yes on the 2.997 GHz. No on the RAM, depending on your terminology. You need DDR2-667 RAM to run at FSB 333 without overclocking the RAM.

 

[RonAKA]

Originally posted by: skarkar
I'm running a 4300 on Asus P5B and got it stable at 3 GHZ, 9 multi, DDR2-667 333 FSB at stock voltages and stock HSF. My RAM runs fine at 4-4-4-12 DDR2-800.

That seems amazing for the RAM. My DDR2-667 maxed out at 690. See this thread.

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=28&threadid=2015183&enterthread=y

Ron

 

[magreen]

Originally posted by: NamelessMC
I wouldn't bet on the Allendales being better over-clocks than Conroes.

Most of the over-clockers I've talked to that have used both, say that while the Allendale is easier to hit 3 GHZ with on lower speed ram, it takes a high-end motherboard because of all the holes in most motherboards from FSB of 300-400. And if you drop the multiplier to 8x, you won't hit anywhere near the same speed potentials of the E6400 because the 6400 just runs way cooler.

If I were you guys, try a 400+ FSB on an 8x multiplier and see what you can accomplish. It might be the "9x multiplier" part of the E4300 advertisement that's a dud, when what people should really be doing is trying to get a 400x9 overclock, so the possibility of motherboard holes between 300-400 is taken out of the equation.

I'm seeing most people on this thread getting between 2.8 - 3.1 GHz on the e4300 with stock or basic air cooling. We're talking max 344 FSB, which is exactly where the budget P965 boards have FSB holes, as NamelessMC says.

I'm thinking maybe the 945P is a better match for the e4300, if you're shooting for a ~3 GHz OC. It seems funny to spend $150 and up on the MB for a $160 chip. I'd love to see some attempts with the GA-945P-S3 board... it's supposed to be a good performer up to the 350 FSB range, and saves a few $ over the TForce965PT and GA-965P-S3. And it hopefully won't have the FSB holes that the 965 boards are showing at that range. They clocked it up to 350 FSB with an E6700 in this review at neoseeker... and that was CPU limited, not MB limited... 10x multi, stock cooling.

Any takers?

 

[allies]

Well... after spending the whole weekend messing around with settings... I think I've finally settled on my overclock. It's kind of low, but it might be due to the fact I'm using 4GB of ram, or using Vista x64, or both. Who knows. Anyway, here are my Specs and results:

E4300
8800GTX
1x150 GB Raptor
1x250 GB Barracuda
Gigabyte DS3 Rev 3.3
4GB Super Talent DDR2 667
Antec True Power II 550W
Nec 3540A DVDRW

And... my overclocking results

Multiplier: 8x
FSB: 376
3008Mhz

4-4-4-12 1:1

DDR2 Voltage: +.2V
FSB Voltage: +.1V
G(MCH) Voltage: +.1V
CPU Voltage: 1.47500V >>> CPU-Z and SpeedFan report 1.440/1.44 idle and 1.424/1.42 load

Newest version of SpeedFan (reports individual core temps) has my cores at 52C under load... cooled by a Zalman 9500.

I'm pretty content with this, and I have a hunch that running 4GB is holding the processor back some... but I would rather be 4GB w/ 3GHz in Vista versus 2GB w/ 3.2 GHz in Vista. If someone has some pointers for me, go ahead, but I think I pretty much have exhausted myself for now.

I'm not going to lie, I wanted 3.2GHz with 4GB of RAM... but I can't see that happening after trying this weekend.