E6600 O/C Updated with PICS

[Rubycon]

Ok I've run some programs and the efficiency of the C2D cpu is very good.

Of course I always want more.

I want to o/c a 6600 to 3.5G levels. The question is what kind of memory do I need? I want to put 4 1GB modules in the motherboard. I have tuniq tower - is that even necessary for this cpu?

 

[Abel007]

What kind of motherboard do you have?
Also what kind of RAM do you currently have?
The Tuniq Tower is awesome.

 

[Rubycon]

Motherboard and ram are junk IMO - Abit AB9 Pro, Mushkin EM2-5300.

But that will be taken care of - just need to know what to buy.

 

[Abel007]

Have a budget?

 

[Rubycon]

Originally posted by: Abel007
Have a budget?

I have a hard time getting anything without a list. I'm using a FX60 at 64 speeds now if that tells you anything. I ask for it and get it.

 

[Dexion]

Well go with Corsair XMS2 PC8000 if budget isn't a concern so it takes memory out of the overclocking equation. For the mobo either get the Gigabyte DQ6 or the Asus P5W DH mobo, and you should have quite a setup there for good overclocking. It all depends if you get a lucky chip of course
If you want to save a bit a money, grab the corsairs PC-6400 (the ones I have) and grab either the Gigabyte DS3 or the P5B Deluxe..

As for the HSF, I second the Tuniq Tower for performace.. but I opted for Zalman for silence...

 

[Skott]

Dexion gives good advice. If budget is no problem you may want to look into watercooling, as another option, to push the systems to the very max.

 

[Dexion]

I want to put 4 1GB modules in the motherboard.

Well, as they all say, you never can have too much memory. 4GB would be nice but for most setups, you wouldn't need more than 2GB.. Even a power user as myself running heavy graphic apps while multitasking, 2GB never had a hitch.. Unless you run a hosting environment like this forum 4GB might be the minimum..

 

[theteamaqua]

also memory bandwidth is impoirtant i rather have 1GB = 2 x 512MB (good overclocking) than 4 x 1GB (bad for overclocking)

 

[Rubycon]

Originally posted by: Dexion

I want to put 4 1GB modules in the motherboard.

Well, as they all say, you never can have too much memory. 4GB would be nice but for most setups, you wouldn't need more than 2GB.. Even a power user as myself running heavy graphic apps while multitasking, 2GB never had a hitch.. Unless you run a hosting environment like this forum 4GB might be the minimum..

No, 4GB is *the* minimum. I would actually love to have 8GB or more. WinXP64 bit user here.

When quad core Xeons come out I long for a quad socket solution. By then Vista Supreme or whatever it's called (sounds like a pizza topping! :laugh: ) *should* support it - along with the 64-128GB of RAM that system will have.

Originally posted by: theteamaqua
also memory bandwidth is impoirtant i rather have 1GB = 2 x 512MB (good overclocking) than 4 x 1GB (bad for overclocking)

I have to run 2T instead of 1T on this FX60 system now and the hit in performance is really negligible compared to the bigger hit in performance with 1T with 2GB. (paging)

EDIT: The Tuniq tower is silent with the included 120MM fan on low - that's enough for 3.0GHz on this FX60. It will do 3.2GHz if the voltage is cranked higher and the fan is turned up but one core is not quite up to the task and fails under stress.

 

[Sentry2]

Running 4 x 1GB has little if any negative effect on conroe overclocking. Theteamaqua, it's not quite the same as on AMD systems.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Strangely you're also the one who was telling us you should use the Intel stock HSF because you can't just get a fab and spit out a new aftermarket cooler if you wanted. Also telling us it's a waste to scrape the paste off the stock HSF. as Documented Here

Furthermore you asked if you should scrape off the stock TIM or keep it. I said I never use stock TIM and would remove it and you said "it's too much work and I'll dirty my hands". Why ask if you're gonna do your own thing anyway?


WTF!?

 

[orion23]

Like others have said, your tuniq tower is the best AIR cooler out there.

You'll need it for 3.5-3.6ghz

For 3.6ghz you only need DDR2 800mhz PC2-6400.

You can get the ballistix or G.Skill 2GBHZ with 4-4-4-12 timings. Both kits can overclock to speeds higher than 900mhz

Are you also looking for a motherboard?

If so, stick to ASUS, they are the best.

If you want the best, The P5W64 Or P5WDG2 WS Pro or the P5W DH are the best available for the 975X chipset.

The P5B Deluxe Wi-Fi is the best 965P motherboard

 

[Rubycon]

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
Strangely you're also the one who was telling us you should use the Intel stock HSF because you can't just get a fab and spit out a new aftermarket cooler if you wanted. Also telling us it's a waste to scrape the paste off the stock HSF. as Documented Here

Furthermore you asked if you should scrape off the stock TIM or keep it. I said I never use stock TIM and would remove it and you said "it's too much work and I'll dirty my hands". Why ask if you're gonna do your own thing anyway?


WTF!?

The tables turn if I'm doing this for my system, ok?

Originally posted by: orion23
Like others have said, your tuniq tower is the best AIR cooler out there.

You'll need it for 3.5-3.6ghz

For 3.6ghz you only need DDR2 800mhz PC2-6400.

You can get the ballistix or G.Skill 2GBHZ with 4-4-4-12 timings. Both kits can overclock to speeds higher than 900mhz

Are you also looking for a motherboard?

If so, stick to ASUS, they are the best.

If you want the best, The P5W64 Or P5WDG2 WS Pro or the P5W DH are the best available for the 975X chipset.

The P5B Deluxe Wi-Fi is the best 965P motherboard

I'll check out those motherboards. The onboard wifi is of no use to me though.

It looks like the Gskill Ram is working out well in the reviews. What chips are on those?

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: MS Dawn

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
Strangely you're also the one who was telling us you should use the Intel stock HSF because you can't just get a fab and spit out a new aftermarket cooler if you wanted. Also telling us it's a waste to scrape the paste off the stock HSF. as Documented Here

Furthermore you asked if you should scrape off the stock TIM or keep it. I said I never use stock TIM and would remove it and you said "it's too much work and I'll dirty my hands". Why ask if you're gonna do your own thing anyway?


WTF!?

The tables turn if I'm doing this for my system, ok?

Originally posted by: orion23
Like others have said, your tuniq tower is the best AIR cooler out there.

You'll need it for 3.5-3.6ghz

For 3.6ghz you only need DDR2 800mhz PC2-6400.

You can get the ballistix or G.Skill 2GBHZ with 4-4-4-12 timings. Both kits can overclock to speeds higher than 900mhz

Are you also looking for a motherboard?

If so, stick to ASUS, they are the best.

If you want the best, The P5W64 Or P5WDG2 WS Pro or the P5W DH are the best available for the 975X chipset.

The P5B Deluxe Wi-Fi is the best 965P motherboard

I'll check out those motherboards. The onboard wifi is of no use to me though.

It looks like the Gskill Ram is working out well in the reviews. What chips are on those?

And you never specify whether its yours or not, becides I made a recommendation to not use stock stuff and you made it out to be a "waste of your time" which leads me to believe you didn't care what people said in reply to your original question. I give up.

 

[orion23]

About the Tuniq Tower, if you don't want it, I could always buy it from you.....

 

[Rubycon]

Originally posted by: orion23
About the Tuniq Tower, if you don't want it, I could always buy it from you.....

Everyone wants one. Must be good eh?

I can only run this chip at 2.7G due to memory limitations. Higher than 300 on memory gives memtest errors nearly immediately. I had to raise mem voltage to 2V just to get a post at 300MHz (2.7GHz on the 6600).

4GB ram is no problem on this cheapy board. (AB9 Pro - Abit)

I'll post some pics in a bit. The USB ports have died since the installation of the Intel INF file so I have two keyboards and mice connected to this box and keep typing on the wrong keyboard and moving the wrong mouse. And it's not even happy hour yet! :laugh:

EDIT: Some pics:

Test system (don't laugh!)

Memory at 333 FSB - too much for it even with 2.2 volts!

Memory at 300 MHz FSB and 2.05 volts - no problems.

The CPU runs cool at stock voltage with the stock cooler as pictured. Of course 2700 MHz from 2400MHz is not much of an o/c as many are getting well over 3000 out of these cpu's. It's the crappy Mushkin "Enhanced" memory in the system that's limiting this. The motherboard is probably not that great either - what a whacked layout with IDE and FLOPPY connectors in the middle of the board. :disgust:

Anyways, the friggin' RAM needs a fan! YIKES! Broke out the IR thermometer and those heat spreaders are over 68°C when running memtest! :shocked: And that's at 2.05V. I could not imagine how hot they would get at 2.2 or higher. (and if it ran at that voltage from the beginning I would anyway - that's what makes this stuff fun! )