e6600 vs. AMD x4 635: Which sucks less?

Page 2 - Seeking answers? Join the AnandTech community: where nearly half-a-million members share solutions and discuss the latest tech.

toyota

Lifer
Apr 15, 2001
12,957
1
0
Fast is subjective. Fast compared to what?

Of course, considering what I can afford for video cards, it's likely a moot point.

That said, I'm also quite concerned about Autodesk Inventor, an old-fashioned single threaded CAD program. It's basically a CPU monster.
yeah no kidding. even my E8500 would probably be faster than his cpu in most cases.
 

Arkaign

Lifer
Oct 27, 2006
20,736
1,377
126
Because I can get a used e8400 for $100.

Ah, well why didn't you say so? If you already have a mobo, E8400 is pretty sweet. I still think the X3 BE might be a little better considering the $, the performance per clock will be roughly even, but you get an extra core on the X3 obviously. Both are really easy to hit high 3ghz range with, though E8400s can hit 4ghz on above-average mobo/ram/cooling combo.

Either the E8400 or X3 Black Edition will be a much better performer than a Pentium E6600 or Athlon II X4.
 

Arkaign

Lifer
Oct 27, 2006
20,736
1,377
126
yeah no kidding. even my E8500 would probably be faster than his cpu in most cases.

Yeah probably so. The X4 is good for general desktop use with multitasking (av running in background, encoding some crap while watching netflix, etc), but for most things the E8400/E8500 is going to be faster. The lack of L3 cache on the Athlon IIs just punishes it in so many areas.
 

cheesehead

Lifer
Aug 11, 2000
10,079
0
0
Well, just bought an E8400. I need to get a motherboard for it, but if I can recover the heatsink and RAM from my brother's PC (it's not like he needs them for an un-overclocked 2ghz C2D) I should have a tiny electric god under my desk shortly.
 

Throckmorton

Lifer
Aug 23, 2007
16,830
3
0
he was definitely not joking. lol

like most people, he saw E6600 and automatically thought of the old Core 2 duo. it is quite confusing especially if someone does not state the speed and or mention its a Pentium.

Wait.... what is going on here? Did Intel name a newer chip E6600?
 

maddie

Diamond Member
Jul 18, 2010
4,787
4,771
136
A Question.

For general use, with several tasks operating, I would think a 4 core to be faster than 2 cores. AFAIK, the review sites do benches with one program operating.
Is this accurate?
If it is, then automatic answers of Intel superiority might not be fully accurate.
 

Arkaign

Lifer
Oct 27, 2006
20,736
1,377
126
A Question.

For general use, with several tasks operating, I would think a 4 core to be faster than 2 cores. AFAIK, the review sites do benches with one program operating.
Is this accurate?
If it is, then automatic answers of Intel superiority might not be fully accurate.

This is a valid point, and one I tried to make earlier in this thread. It's not really an Intel vs. AMD question however, but a question of quad vs. dual (and to a lesser extent, the odd space that the X3 chips reside in).

The fact remains that the Athlon II with no L3 cache performs poorly in many areas, particularly gaming, compared to Intel dual core E8xxx series as well as to Phenom II with full L3 cache. In many benches the Phenom II X2 (!!) beats the Athlon II X4, due to a combination of the apps not being mutlithreaded frequency and the lack of cache.

It's probably a double-edged sword anyway with the Athlon II + heavy multitask. Even though you have more cores to run stuff on, if you are running say 90 processes rather than 60, you still only have a total of 2MB (512KBx4) L2 cache to use, which means more misses and performance hits.

Of course many end users are only moderately computer literate, and accept all manner of packed in toolbars and other crap that ends up taking process time, along with heavy antivirus suites like Norton, the quad will be definitively better than an equal dual (Athlon II X2).

To put some sort of definitive answer to this : unless you're just really short on $ and want a quad for some specific purpose, it's better to get a more powerful overall chip for the same $ with a Phenom II X3 BE, or if more $ is available, either get a PhII X4BE, X6BE, or i5 7xx or better on the Intel side. The only way I'd recommend a S775 CPU such as the E8400 today is either used and cheap or for an existing setup that someone didn't want to bother completely rebuilding with new mobo/ram/etc. It's all about practicality.
 

Shmee

Memory & Storage, Graphics Cards Mod Elite Member
Super Moderator
Sep 13, 2008
7,541
2,541
146
why not consider sandy bridge?
 

Arkaign

Lifer
Oct 27, 2006
20,736
1,377
126
why not consider sandy bridge?

$$$. Requires 1st gen new chipset mobo, decent DDR3, and IIRC the cheapest chips for SB launch will be over $200 for quads.

It seems promising, but not really any kind of meaningful leap over lynnfield outside of better GPU and presumably OC ceiling on the K chips (32nm vs. 45nm lynnfield). Clarkdale was already 32nm, but it was the first 32nm chip and only a dual.
 
sale-70-410-exam    | Exam-200-125-pdf    | we-sale-70-410-exam    | hot-sale-70-410-exam    | Latest-exam-700-603-Dumps    | Dumps-98-363-exams-date    | Certs-200-125-date    | Dumps-300-075-exams-date    | hot-sale-book-C8010-726-book    | Hot-Sale-200-310-Exam    | Exam-Description-200-310-dumps?    | hot-sale-book-200-125-book    | Latest-Updated-300-209-Exam    | Dumps-210-260-exams-date    | Download-200-125-Exam-PDF    | Exam-Description-300-101-dumps    | Certs-300-101-date    | Hot-Sale-300-075-Exam    | Latest-exam-200-125-Dumps    | Exam-Description-200-125-dumps    | Latest-Updated-300-075-Exam    | hot-sale-book-210-260-book    | Dumps-200-901-exams-date    | Certs-200-901-date    | Latest-exam-1Z0-062-Dumps    | Hot-Sale-1Z0-062-Exam    | Certs-CSSLP-date    | 100%-Pass-70-383-Exams    | Latest-JN0-360-real-exam-questions    | 100%-Pass-4A0-100-Real-Exam-Questions    | Dumps-300-135-exams-date    | Passed-200-105-Tech-Exams    | Latest-Updated-200-310-Exam    | Download-300-070-Exam-PDF    | Hot-Sale-JN0-360-Exam    | 100%-Pass-JN0-360-Exams    | 100%-Pass-JN0-360-Real-Exam-Questions    | Dumps-JN0-360-exams-date    | Exam-Description-1Z0-876-dumps    | Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps    | Dumps-HPE0-Y53-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-HPE0-Y53-Exam    | 100%-Pass-HPE0-Y53-Real-Exam-Questions    | Pass-4A0-100-Exam    | Latest-4A0-100-Questions    | Dumps-98-365-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-98-365-Exam    | 100%-Pass-VCS-254-Exams    | 2017-Latest-VCS-273-Exam    | Dumps-200-355-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-300-320-Exam    | Pass-300-101-Exam    | 100%-Pass-300-115-Exams    |
http://www.portvapes.co.uk/    | http://www.portvapes.co.uk/    |