E6750 & Gigabyte P35C-DS3R Overclocking Thread

[mrfatboy]

Sorry for you bad luck. 3.2 OC should be a "no brainer" with your setup. What type of power supply do you have? Is it old or new? What are you Core, cpu, ambient temps?

I think you should start by getting your 3.2 OC stable. Read this thread from the begining and set you BIOS up according to the suggestions. From there we can try to nail down the problem. You probably just have something set incorrectly in you bios.

 

[imported_Speeder]

I have an older but from what I think still a half-decent PS to support the system. Review Here Maybe I should connect the fans via Molex adapters..... (PS getting starved for power?) Since I don't necessarily have issues when say a game is running and 8800GTS starts picking up extra power.

Is there any other stability utility other then Orthos that I can use under Vista 64?

 

[mrfatboy]

Orthos works with VISTA. Start with a 3.2 OC and let us know. You need to give us all your info like I said in my previous post. Put your rig in your sig. Video games do not stress the system like ORthos does.

 

[imported_Speeder]

i'll post my settings when I'm at home later. I am also going to try borrowing a 850w coolermaster over the weekend to make sure it isn't the powersupply because looking at newer PSs, they have much more 12v power.

 

[jcossin]

Originally posted by: Speeder
I am having bad luck OCing.

I got a P35-DS3R (non C) F6 bios
E6750 G0 Stepping
2gb (2x1gb) Crucial Ballistix 4-4-4-12 ddr2-800 ram
ultima-90 HS (bundled thermal paste)
Scyche S-Flex 120mm F fan on CPU and E case fans.

Im running Vista 64-bit

I can do 8x400 4-4-4-12 but orthos freezes (Super PI runs). Games seem to run OK. Memtest passed with mem upto 475 with 4-4-4-12 (at 6x multiplier) with automatic Voltage. 485 freezes at that timing.

I can't do 490+ with any timing (at any DDR voltage setting... I get reboot cycles)
Orthos also freezes with 8x450 with voltage upto 1.48. I can't do 1.5 (reboot cycles) (I got to try some games at that setting... but it reboot cycles too on occasion and resets everything to default)

Maybe orthos just doesn't like my system period?

I have tried C1E, T2 (and whatever else) enabled & disabled. I have HPET 64-bit enabled but I don't think it does anything related to OC'ing.

I've tried DRAM option 1& 2. All perrmance stuff is standard or auto.

I have tried adding FSB and (G)MCH +.1V, didn't help

My goal is/was 450x8 with 4-4-4-12 timing, or maybe 515x7 with 5-5-5-15 timing.

The temp doesn't even seem to go that high, the system just freezes (orthos) or resets after reboot. Cores/CPU reach maybe... 40C at most.

Any suggestions?

Hi Speeder,

What do you have your DDR voltage set to in the BIOS? It sounds like a RAM issue to me. Have you run memtest yet?

Jon

 

[mrfatboy]

Originally posted by: jcossin

Originally posted by: Speeder
I am having bad luck OCing.

I got a P35-DS3R (non C) F6 bios
E6750 G0 Stepping
2gb (2x1gb) Crucial Ballistix 4-4-4-12 ddr2-800 ram
ultima-90 HS (bundled thermal paste)
Scyche S-Flex 120mm F fan on CPU and E case fans.

Im running Vista 64-bit

I can do 8x400 4-4-4-12 but orthos freezes (Super PI runs). Games seem to run OK. Memtest passed with mem upto 475 with 4-4-4-12 (at 6x multiplier) with automatic Voltage. 485 freezes at that timing.

I can't do 490+ with any timing (at any DDR voltage setting... I get reboot cycles)
Orthos also freezes with 8x450 with voltage upto 1.48. I can't do 1.5 (reboot cycles) (I got to try some games at that setting... but it reboot cycles too on occasion and resets everything to default)

Maybe orthos just doesn't like my system period?

I have tried C1E, T2 (and whatever else) enabled & disabled. I have HPET 64-bit enabled but I don't think it does anything related to OC'ing.

I've tried DRAM option 1& 2. All perrmance stuff is standard or auto.

I have tried adding FSB and (G)MCH +.1V, didn't help

My goal is/was 450x8 with 4-4-4-12 timing, or maybe 515x7 with 5-5-5-15 timing.

The temp doesn't even seem to go that high, the system just freezes (orthos) or resets after reboot. Cores/CPU reach maybe... 40C at most.

Any suggestions?

Hi Speeder,

What do you have your DDR voltage set to in the BIOS? It sounds like a RAM issue to me. Have you run memtest yet?

Jon

i think you are right. I missed that. He messed around with ever voltage except ram

 

[imported_Speeder]

i tried from Auto to Normal and upto +.4v. No difference.

 

[imported_Speeder]

Ok. Some updates. Orthos (blend) ran fine at 3.2

I then changed the FSB to 437, +.3v to DDR, and CPU at 1.4, with everything but C1E disabled. Mem at 4-4-4-12, Delay to ACT set to 42, Rest Auto.

Orhos Small FFT started running but would give erros. By using ez-tune5 i was bumping up the voltage and then FSB. Now i am at 450mhz/1.525v (1.44 in Everest Beta, 1.46 in Eztune Monitor) with case closed, and max temps of CPU at 62c and Cores at 65~67C. Which is 'OK' but not too good based on this guide http://www.tomshardware.com/fo...quad-temperature-guide. So i ordered some X23 paste. Orthos has been running for 8 minutes.

Err, Orthos failed at 8 minutes 15 seconds.... as I was typing this.

Next Stop: 1.531v 'commanded' (1.47v eztune monitor, 1.46v everest). Temps about the same now... 62 cpu, 67 cores. I guess maybe yet another voltage bump and some better themal paste should make it more or less stable.

DDR is showing 2.1v in ez-tune. I'm going to bump it to 2.2v and try the Blend test (the one I was freezing on)...


Edit: tried changing DDR voltage to 2.2v in ez-tune; system locked.

Restarted (no dual boot) changed cpu voltage to 1.531, ddr to +.4. Booted into windows fine. Opened case (to simulate colder temps), ran Blend (ran fine for 10 minutes, stopped just now) with cpu not going over 58c and cores at max of 61c. Cpu voltage jumping to 1.49 max in eztune and 1.47 in everest.

Everest mem read is 8067mb, write 8183mb, copy 7172mb and latency 63.3ns.

I'm going to try 515mhz FSB/MEM with 5-5-5-15 timings at 7x multiplier, see if that runs and mem speeds. Also I guess i'll try enabling the multiplier drop thing - is there anything that drops CPU voltage while idle? 1.49v idle is not something I'm liking.

More Updates:

at 450, system double-cycled when I was restarting and reset all settings.

I tried 515fsb/mem with almost every option (timing 5-5-5-15, with ACT delay up to 120), g(mch) and fsb up to +.2, Option 1 and Option 2, and DDR with upto +.5v and down to +.2v, didn't touch cpu voltage - cycle boot every time to default settings.....

I am now back in windows with CPU still at 1.531, DDR at +.3 (down from .4) and 4-4-12 memory timings. EISA, TM2 and CI2E enabled. I'll run orthos overnight I think with case open but I really want to find something to throttle down voltage when CPU drops to 6x multiplier.

 

[jcossin]

Speeder,

Here's what I would try. First focus on getting the RAM stable, set to +.4V, 400MHz, 4-4-4-12 and boot memtest and run a few passes, if all is good then keep increasing the speed and you should be able to get up to 450MHz.

Then focus on CPU voltages. I thinking going into the 1.5V range is too high though IMO. Most have been hitting 3.2GHz without raising volts or only raising voltages a little bit. Most have been able to hit 3.6GHz with less than or equal to 1.46V.

 

[mrfatboy]

Speeder,

jcossin is giving you good advice. Take it

Do not use Easytune! It's junk.

I have not heard of anybody on this thread that has had to adjust the memory sub settings to get their OC. Reset back to normal.

 

[tiberius72]

Folks,

Does this board work will with 4 GB of RAM (4 x 1GB Crucial Ballistiz PC6400 - 800 to be more precise) Buy.com have a deal for $55 after rebate.

I have 2 GB already and think of upping to 4 GB, I know XP will on see 3 GB. However, I've read on this thread and others that If you get it to work with 4 GB its will be at the regular timing. No OC of the memory at 4 GB will work. Any thoughts ?

It seems some have add issues get the board to see 4GB.

Tiberius

 

[mrfatboy]

Originally posted by: tiberius72
Folks,

Does this board work will with 4 GB of RAM (4 x 1GB Crucial Ballistiz PC6400 - 800 to be more precise) Buy.com have a deal for $55 after rebate.

I have 2 GB already and think of upping to 4 GB, I know XP will on see 3 GB. However, I've read on this thread and others that If you get it to work with 4 GB its will be at the regular timing. No OC of the memory at 4 GB will work. Any thoughts ?

It seems some have add issues get the board to see 4GB.

Tiberius

I saw the same deal this morning and I am thinking of getting the extra 2gigs My buddy has the exact same system as I do (see sig). Except his has 4 gigs of the ballistix. He has OC to 3.2 at stock volt and settings. He has not attempted anything higher. His system runs perfectly.


EDIT!

I just pulled the trigger. 2 more gigs coming my way $52 (tax & shipping) for 2 gigs was too nice to pass up

 

[tiberius72]

I just pulled the trigger as well. It is too good to pass up.

With a E6750 do we overclock this memory or is the multiplier already the highest it can be ? I'm a newbie to OC'ing.


Lets see how it turns out. I just hope we don't have any issues with the mobo seeing the 4GB.

Tiberius

 

[mrfatboy]

Your moboboard can see the 4gig but your OS may or may not see all of it. i have XP and it will only see 3.2gig. You need the 64 bit xp or vista to see the whole 4gig.

I will be ready for vista when the time comes. I should be getting Vista for free thru a company deal I'm happy with XP but I will be ready.

 

[jcossin]

Originally posted by: tiberius72
I just pulled the trigger as well. It is too good to pass up.

With a E6750 do we overclock this memory or is the multiplier already the highest it can be ? I'm a newbie to OC'ing.


Lets see how it turns out. I just hope we don't have any issues with the mobo seeing the 4GB.

Tiberius

tiberius72,

Are you overclocking right now? If so, what Mhz are you running the CPU at?

Let's say you are at 3.2GHz, then you are at 400Mhz x 8 and your memory multiplier should be set to 2x to get 800MHz. If you are running at 3.6GHz, then you are at 450MHz x 8 and if you memory multiplier is set to 2x then you are overclocking your memory to 900MHz and 4GB on the overclock *might* be dicey. You might need to increase your timings to get 900MHz to be stable with 4GB.

After you get the RAM, post back here with your overclock and if it's stable with 4GB, I'd be curious.

 

[mrfatboy]

tiberius72,

You are going to be our 4 gig Guinea Pig I can't wait to see what it take to be stable


btw, what OS are you running?

 

[SniperDaws]

Originally posted by: mrfatboy
tiberius72,

You are going to be our 4 gig Guinea Pig I can't wait to see what it take to be stable


btw, what OS are you running?

What will yer do if you cant overclock with 4gig?

 

[mrfatboy]

Originally posted by: SniperDaws

Originally posted by: mrfatboy
tiberius72,

You are going to be our 4 gig Guinea Pig I can't wait to see what it take to be stable


btw, what OS are you running?

What will yer do if you cant overclock with 4gig?

Here is my 4 gig stragegy

1) OC 3.6 with 4gig (desired)
2) OC lower with 4gig
3) Don't use the 2extra gig. Save it for Vista or spares. $52 was crazy prices Remember last year when this stuff was $200-$300. Crazy

I don't need 4gig right now. We will see what happens when Crysis comes out. But from what I'm hearing I'll need that 3.6 OC before I need the 4 gigs.

 

[imported_Speeder]

well, my current config ran blend orthos for 14 hours. =)

3.6@450 with 4-4-4-12 timing, +.3v DDR and 1.531vcore.

I'll wait till my x23 comes in, and then try lowering vcore and lowering timings.

 

[tiberius72]

Its gonna be fun !!

I'm not sure why (I think its because I've read folks having issues OC'ing with 4 GB on other boards) but I ain't so confident it be fine OC'd.

Lets see what happens. Worst case is that I have a build a new machine to make use of the memory or I have a lower OC machine. Which is not so bad.

Tiberuis

 

[mrfatboy]

Originally posted by: Speeder
well, my current config ran blend orthos for 14 hours. =)

3.6@450 with 4-4-4-12 timing, +.3v DDR and 1.531vcore.

I'll wait till my x23 comes in, and then try lowering vcore and lowering timings.

wow, that chip likes the juice!

 

[random betrayal]

Originally posted by: mrfatboy
tiberius72,

You are going to be our 4 gig Guinea Pig I can't wait to see what it take to be stable


btw, what OS are you running?

I am currently stable at 3.2 ghz with 4 GB of patriot memory and vista home premium. I am running the memory at stock speeds though so I can't comment on how it overclocks 4 GB.

 

[mrfatboy]

Sorry, I was talking about 3.6 OC. 3.2 with 4gigs is relatively easy to do

 

[jcossin]

Originally posted by: mrfatboy
Sorry, I was talking about 3.6 OC. 3.2 with 4gigs is relatively easy to do

Yeah, 3.2 allows you to keep the memory at a spec 800MHz, so no big deal.

Running that 4GB at 900MHz, well that's another thing...

 

[stavesacre03]

Hi guys, I posted a problem I'm having over in the video forum, but not getting much input. Hoping you all have some ideas. I have the P35C-DS3R board with a Q6600 G0 running at 3.2. System is Orthos stable for 13+ hours, memtest stable, temps at 68C under load (per Everest), etc. All latest drivers, Vista updates, and BIOS. See sig for full specs.

I had no problems until playing Bioshock, which works smooth, high framrates, etc, but will randomly crash the PC completely (no BSOD--I can hear sound looping sometimes, and then the system completely powers off). I tried various things such as reducing game settings, reverting to stock speeds, etc, all to no avail. At this point, I've given up on Bioshock due to frustration with these crashes--which sometimes happens after 5 minutes and sometimes happens after 45 minuts. At the time, I wrote this off as being a game problem and I hoped for a patch.

But then I tried TF2, which also crashed in the exact same manner under recommended settings (all high with AA/AF enabled). At this point, I'm thinking maybe my power supply is at fault, but here's the kicker: When I run TF2 in windowed mode, with AA off and AF set to trilinear, I can play for hours on end with no crashing. I can't imagine that the power supply would be the problem if it works with game settings slightly changed...

So, what is causing the crashing with full settings? Is the video card to blame??? Motherboard??? Power Supply??? Thanks in advance for any feedback. Let me know if I can offer more information.