EA: banning you from games you purchased for negative forum posts

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Nik

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oh? Weren't you saying this is their right? that we are stupid to even question it? Now its a "mistake"?

No, you're not stupid to question it. I've never said as much. Yes, it's their right to do so. However, they said it was a mistake and they've corrected the problem.

I'm kinda excited to see your next post and see how intentionally stupid you're going to paint yourself just to play devil's advocate.
 

Phokus

Lifer
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Flawed logic. EA said the action was a MISTAKE and they CORRECTED the mistake.

Yes, lets buy the explanation from the company that's trying to do damage control. Jesus, reading the past few pages, are you an employee of EA or something?
 

smackababy

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I am pretty sure the "we reserve the right to revoke license of this product at any time" part of the EULA will not hold up in court. It doesn't matter if you agree to it or not, because as far as law goes, you cannot be bound to an illegal contract. You can agree to anything contract you'd like, but if it contains illegal terms, it is void.
 

Nik

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Yes, lets buy the explanation from the company that's trying to do damage control. Jesus, reading the past few pages, are you an employee of EA or something?

You aren't the first moron to make that illogical jump to my being an EA employee.

However, I'm disappointed that Anandtech has such a large number of ignorant gamers among their ranks. Sure, a couple are to be expected, but people in this thread seem only to turn their brains on when it comes time to throw insults my way. It's the whole mob mentality thing taking over.

If EA intended to block him from their services, they'd do so and leave it. They wouldn't have called it a mistake. There would be more than just this one guy in this situation (because EA's forums are full of hate-slinging 8 year old trolls).

Use your head.
 

Nik

Lifer
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I am pretty sure the "we reserve the right to revoke license of this product at any time" part of the EULA will not hold up in court. It doesn't matter if you agree to it or not, because as far as law goes, you cannot be bound to an illegal contract. You can agree to anything contract you'd like, but if it contains illegal terms, it is void.

If you're so convinced that you're right, feel free to click the Class Action Lawsuit link earlier in this thread and get it started.

You'll be rich.

Come on, do it. If you're right, what's to lose?
 

Veliko

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If you're so convinced that you're right, feel free to click the Class Action Lawsuit link earlier in this thread and get it started.

You'll be rich.

Come on, do it. If you're right, what's to lose?

Give it a rest, you are just sounding shrill.
 

smackababy

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If you're so convinced that you're right, feel free to click the Class Action Lawsuit link earlier in this thread and get it started.

You'll be rich.

Come on, do it. If you're right, what's to lose?

It doesn't really matter to me what EA does, I don't buy their games anyway. If this did happen to me, I'd surely take it as high as needed until I got my legally purchased software back.



The best thing about this is, if MS did this, everyone would on board the bashing.
 

Nik

Lifer
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Yes, because malfunctions don't ever happen, right?

Are you fucking listening to yourself?
 

Zargon

Lifer
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Your Steam account and Steam forum account are totally separated. You can be banned on their forums and it does not effect your account with the games.

yup.

the community stuff is 'separate but the same' as your store/game access
 

Phokus

Lifer
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You aren't the first moron to make that illogical jump to my being an EA employee.

However, I'm disappointed that Anandtech has such a large number of ignorant gamers among their ranks. Sure, a couple are to be expected, but people in this thread seem only to turn their brains on when it comes time to throw insults my way. It's the whole mob mentality thing taking over.

If EA intended to block him from their services, they'd do so and leave it. They wouldn't have called it a mistake. There would be more than just this one guy in this situation (because EA's forums are full of hate-slinging 8 year old trolls).

Use your head.

Why don't YOU use your head. This issue went viral all over the internet. It got upvoted to hell in /r/games on reddit. It's almost like EA felt the backlash and backed off. If you actually buy their explanation, i have a bridge to sell you. Are we seriously taking PR bits from a huge corporation at face value now?
 

Nik

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Has this ever happened to anyone else?

No?

Then there's no reason to take EA's PR bit as anything other than face value. People bitch on /r/games and reddit about anything and everything they don't like about games and their manufacturers. This isn't the first time EA's been under fire for their practices and it won't be the last. EA isn't the only company that gets belittled on such services either.

Believing that EA "broke under pressure" is a conclusion that cannot logically be drawn. There's absolutely no reason to believe that.
 

Veliko

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Yes, because malfunctions don't ever happen, right?

Are you fucking listening to yourself?

The forum account is directly tied to the gaming account. They are one and the same.

Nothing malfunctioned.
 

Nik

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The forum account is directly tied to the gaming account. They are one and the same.

Nothing malfunctioned.

Then why hasn't anyone else who's been banned from the forums also lost their gaming accounts?

Why is this the first time we're hearing about it?

Because it was a mistake, you meathead.
 

Veliko

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Then why hasn't anyone else who's been banned from the forums also lost their gaming accounts?

Why is this the first time we're hearing about it?

Because it was a mistake, you meathead.

So if you don't hear about it then it hasn't happened? There was even someone from Bioware saying that it was working as intended.
 

Phokus

Lifer
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Has this ever happened to anyone else?

No?

Then there's no reason to take EA's PR bit as anything other than face value. People bitch on /r/games and reddit about anything and everything they don't like about games and their manufacturers. This isn't the first time EA's been under fire for their practices and it won't be the last. EA isn't the only company that gets belittled on such services either.

Believing that EA "broke under pressure" is a conclusion that cannot logically be drawn. There's absolutely no reason to believe that.


LMAO, yes, it's completely illogical that their customers, WHO ARE INTERNET SAVVY AS FUCK AND WHO MADE THIS STORY VIRAL, put pressure on them... there's absolutely no connection between pissing off your customers and losing $$$. Are you fucking insane?
 

Nik

Lifer
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Nobody's denying that their customers were trying to put pressure on them.

Where did I say that?

EA is known for giving the middle finger to their customers and NOT changing their stance. There's no reason to believe that a couple whiny irrational stupid customers have any sort of sway over one of the (unfortunately) biggest authorities in the gaming industry.
 

Zargon

Lifer
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Has this ever happened to anyone else?

No?

Then there's no reason to take EA's PR bit as anything other than face value. People bitch on /r/games and reddit about anything and everything they don't like about games and their manufacturers. This isn't the first time EA's been under fire for their practices and it won't be the last. EA isn't the only company that gets belittled on such services either.

Believing that EA "broke under pressure" is a conclusion that cannot logically be drawn. There's absolutely no reason to believe that
.



sure it is, because this type of stuff happens all the time, company a uses a technicality to screw whiny customer b

customer b bitches and it goes viral, company a reconciles with whiny customer to save face and does massive PR Backpeddaling.



c'mon, quit acting like thats not a likely outcome
 

Nik

Lifer
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Where's the list of people who've been banned from their games because they were a dick on the forums?

Where's all the news stories?

Where.
 

chalmers

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And this is why I have Nik on ignore. Constantly cussing and insulting others. Poor angry kid, and it's too bad he's bringing the troll shit from OT to other sections here. You have serious life issues if you feel the need to insult someone that you've never met with literally every single forum post.
 

Nik

Lifer
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And this is why I have Nik on ignore. Constantly cussing and insulting others. Poor angry kid, and it's too bad he's bringing the troll shit from OT to other sections here. You have serious life issues if you feel the need to insult someone that you've never met with literally every single forum post.

Where's the list of people who've been banned from their games because they were a dick on the forums?

Where's all the news stories?

Where.

Where's the insult in that post? Jeez, I only have to post one single example to prove you wrong. Way to exaggerate.

This is one reason why I seem frustrated. People intentionally go out of their way to be stupid, just for the sake of argument.
 

Phynaz

Lifer
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I am pretty sure the "we reserve the right to revoke license of this product at any time" part of the EULA will not hold up in court. It doesn't matter if you agree to it or not, because as far as law goes, you cannot be bound to an illegal contract. You can agree to anything contract you'd like, but if it contains illegal terms, it is void.

Those terms have been in software licenses for about 60 years. Yes, they are legal and will hold up in court.

For example, here's the Supreme Court of New York ruling on a shrink wrap license. http://www.netlitigation.com/netlitigation/cases/brower.htm

For another example, here is the Ninth Circuit Court ruling that EULAs are enforceable. http://www.teleread.com/copy-right/...-restrictions-on-digital-content-enforceable/

So you have both a state and a federal court saying they are enforceable. If you REALLY want to learn, you can study the Uniform Commercial Code in regards to software licensing.
 
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