EAC can't rip Velvet Revolver CD

[MichaelD]

I purchased the Velvet Revolver CD today. I have the right to back up my files. I choose to do that with EAC. It just errors-out...sees the individual tracks and retrieves their names from the FreeDB database...it just can't rip them. Ideas please?

 

[JetBlack69]

hmmmm....I was going to suggest EAC, but that's what you are using. Maybe Windows Media player can rip them, or iTunes?

 

[n0cmonkey]

Return it as defective, and continue doing so until you get one that works.

 

[MichaelD]

Originally posted by: JetBlack69
hmmmm....I was going to suggest EAC, but that's what you are using. Maybe Windows Media player can rip them, or iTunes?

Ironically (looking at your sig) I just ripped the new (re-released and remasterd The Final Cut) I OWN 99% of the music I have, and that's about....350-some-odd CDs. This is BULLSSHIT. :|

I even tried copying the (hidden) folder with the music off the CD into a temp folder. It worked, but if you try to import the songs into EAC a "this requires a license" window pops up.

I can't believe that these five drug addicts from the 1980's have released this KICKASS album, but at the same time sold their souls to the label and let them do this crap. Cocaine must indeed be a a helluva drug.

 

[JetBlack69]

Yeah, I own about 99% of my MP3s as well. (The rest are rare tracks that I can't buy on CD) It's upsetting me that legal CD owners can't rip their CDs to MP3s.

I say return the CD.

 

[JetBlack69]

http://www.cs.princeton.edu/~jhalderm/cd3/

EDIT: Hold Shift when inserting the CD

 

[MichaelD]

Originally posted by: JetBlack69
Yeah, I own about 99% of my MP3s as well. (The rest are rare tracks that I can't buy on CD) It's upsetting me that legal CD owners can't rip their CDs to MP3s.

I say return the CD.

Don't know if I can. The place I bought it from may have one of those "No return, exchange for same item only" policies. :| This SUCKS. EAC has ripped other "protected" stuff before.

 

[JetBlack69]

http://weblogs.asp.net/christoc/archive/2004/06/08/151147.aspx

Since you probably have MediaMax installed

Next, follow these additional steps to disable MediaMax:

1. Select the SbcpHid driver from the Device Manager list and click "Properties" from the Action Menu.
2. Click the Driver tab and click the Stop button to disable the driver.
3. Set the Startup Type to "Disabled" using the dropdown list.

 

[AFB]

http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?showtopic=22309&st=0&
Explains this cd's method

 

[BlueWeasel]

it's a long shot, but have you tried using CDex?

 

[MichaelD]

Originally posted by: JetBlack69
http://www.cs.princeton.edu/~jhalderm/cd3/

EDIT: Hold Shift when inserting the CD

Thanks for that link. I did that and the Autorun does not. But then I open EAC and hit the "WAV" buttton and get the same read errors. This thing is tough!!!! I will not/REFUSE to hit "accept" on that damn media player that pops up. AFAIAC, it's no better than RealPlayer and will install a ton of spyware on my rig. Fvck that.

 

[JetBlack69]

http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?showtopic=22309&st=0&

in EAC, you need to turn off secure mode and use burst mode. you cd-rom is [correctly] reporting C1 and C2 errors to EAC (that's how copy control works) and EAC goes nuts by re-reading and trying to correct the errors, bypassing the cd-rom's internal error correction which would otherwise handle this stuff fine. unfortunately what you're left with is a garbled piece of crap file which is what the record company wants you to be left with.

 

[MichaelD]

Originally posted by: JetBlack69
http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?showtopic=22309&st=0&

in EAC, you need to turn off secure mode and use burst mode. you cd-rom is [correctly] reporting C1 and C2 errors to EAC (that's how copy control works) and EAC goes nuts by re-reading and trying to correct the errors, bypassing the cd-rom's internal error correction which would otherwise handle this stuff fine. unfortunately what you're left with is a garbled piece of crap file which is what the record company wants you to be left with.

Man, I thought you HAD IT THERE for a minute. The tracks DO copy, but they are all garbled. Shiit.

 

[JetBlack69]

Originally posted by: JetBlack69
http://weblogs.asp.net/christoc/archive/2004/06/08/151147.aspx

Since you probably have MediaMax installed

Next, follow these additional steps to disable MediaMax:

1. Select the SbcpHid driver from the Device Manager list and click "Properties" from the Action Menu.
2. Click the Driver tab and click the Stop button to disable the driver.
3. Set the Startup Type to "Disabled" using the dropdown list.

MichaelD, did you do this? ^^

 

[MichaelD]

Originally posted by: JetBlack69

Originally posted by: JetBlack69
http://weblogs.asp.net/christoc/archive/2004/06/08/151147.aspx

Since you probably have MediaMax installed

Next, follow these additional steps to disable MediaMax:

1. Select the SbcpHid driver from the Device Manager list and click "Properties" from the Action Menu.
2. Click the Driver tab and click the Stop button to disable the driver.
3. Set the Startup Type to "Disabled" using the dropdown list.

MichaelD, did you do this? ^^

Yep. I followed the thread off the page you got the info from. You have to REBOOT. I did. Reripping right now. BRB in a few to let you know.

 

[MichaelD]

BTW, it's really fcking nice that this CD installs drivers on your HD w/o your knowledge or consent. That is WRONG. Just wrong. If the rip works, I'm returning the damn thing. FWIW, I'm going to find VRs website and leave them a nice little note.

Fck you and your copy protection. You sold out. I ripped the tracks anyway and returned the CD. I won't be seeing you when you give a concert in my city.

Bastards.

 

[JetBlack69]

Originally posted by: MichaelD
BTW, it's really fcking nice that this CD installs drivers on your HD w/o your knowledge or consent. That is WRONG. Just wrong. If the rip works, I'm returning the damn thing. FWIW, I'm going to find VRs website and leave them a nice little note.

Fck you and your copy protection. You sold out. I ripped the tracks anyway and returned the CD. I won't be seeing you when you give a concert in my city.

Bastards.

Yeah, I didn't buy a Roger Waters CD because it has copy proctection on it.

Hope it works, though.

 

[MichaelD]

Originally posted by: JetBlack69

Originally posted by: MichaelD
BTW, it's really fcking nice that this CD installs drivers on your HD w/o your knowledge or consent. That is WRONG. Just wrong. If the rip works, I'm returning the damn thing. FWIW, I'm going to find VRs website and leave them a nice little note.

Fck you and your copy protection. You sold out. I ripped the tracks anyway and returned the CD. I won't be seeing you when you give a concert in my city.

Bastards.

Yeah, I didn't buy a Roger Waters CD because it has copy proctection on it.

Hope it works, though.

So far, it is working. I will wait until EAC has the whole thing done...BRB.

 

[JetBlack69]

Heh, I would have tested one track before doing the whole CD.

 

[MichaelD]

It worked. You rock, JetBlack69.

 

[JetBlack69]

Originally posted by: MichaelD
It worked. You rock, JetBlack69.

AWESOME!!!! :music::music:

 

[MrChad]

Originally posted by: MichaelD
BTW, it's really fcking nice that this CD installs drivers on your HD w/o your knowledge or consent. That is WRONG. Just wrong. If the rip works, I'm returning the damn thing. FWIW, I'm going to find VRs website and leave them a nice little note.

Fck you and your copy protection. You sold out. I ripped the tracks anyway and returned the CD. I won't be seeing you when you give a concert in my city.

Bastards.

Doesn't that even further justify their use of copy protection, though? You ripped the tracks and returned the CD.

I agree that an audio CD silently installing drivers on your PC is equivalent to spyware and should be illegal.

 

[AnitaPeterson]

This CD apparently tops sales, so returns are not a concern for the company...

http://news.com.com/Copy-blocked+CD+tops+U.S.+charts/2100-1027_3-5238208.html

Relevant quotes:

""We're thrilled with the results we've seen and the apparent consumer acceptance," said Jordan Katz, an executive vice president in BMG's distribution arm."

"We hear from less than half of one percent of people who have the Velvet Revolver disc," SunnComm CEO Peter Jacobs said.

 

[screw3d]

Programs that silently install drivers should die a painful death :|

Edit: But the good thing is someone always come up with a workaround it's an endless catch-up game :evil::beer:

 

[JetBlack69]

Originally posted by: AnitaPeterson
"We hear from less than half of one percent of people who have the Velvet Revolver disc," SunnComm CEO Peter Jacobs said.

MichaelD, this is why you need to contact them and tell them how you feel. :evil: