EAC can't rip Velvet Revolver CD

[screw3d]

Originally posted by: JetBlack69

Originally posted by: AnitaPeterson
"We hear from less than half of one percent of people who have the Velvet Revolver disc," SunnComm CEO Peter Jacobs said.

MichaelD, this is why you need to contact them and tell them how you feel. :evil:

Heck, we should all do that just because :thumbsdown:

 

[Sunner]

I swore to never buy a copy protected CD, ever.
I broke that promise to buy Iron Maiden's latest though, I really need that one, but except for Maiden, I sure as hell won't be buying any copy protected CD's.

 

[imported_chrisbtx]

On the topic of the shift key, I thought this was funny...

Student uses shift key, gets sued

The lawsuit was later withdrawn... didn't know if any of y'all knew about that.

 

[paperfist]

Mind if I ask if the VR CD is any good? Does it all sound like that one track they have on the radio atm (you know STPish) or does it get a little heavy with it's GnR influence?

 

[imported_jediknight]

Originally posted by: screw3d
Programs that silently install drivers should die a painful death :|

Edit: But the good thing is someone always come up with a workaround it's an endless catch-up game :evil::beer:

Sounds like SPYWARE to me!!

 

[imported_jediknight]

I had a similar issue with the D12 World CD. Although the difference is the CD does not even read in my CD-RW or DVD+R drive. I managed to get it to read in Alcohol 120% (and that program only..) and I was able to make a CD image of it.. and I can now play it via a virtual drive.. but I cannot rip the tracks.. either from the CD or the image. Any suggestions?

 

[Sid59]

Originally posted by: jediknight
I had a similar issue with the D12 World CD. Although the difference is the CD does not even read in my CD-RW or DVD+R drive. I managed to get it to read in Alcohol 120% (and that program only..) and I was able to make a CD image of it.. and I can now play it via a virtual drive.. but I cannot rip the tracks.. either from the CD or the image. Any suggestions?

if it's mounted a CD IMAGE .. you can use something like EAC to rip the tracks.

 

[UnTech]

Originally posted by: paperfist
Mind if I ask if the VR CD is any good? Does it all sound like that one track they have on the radio atm (you know STPish) or does it get a little heavy with it's GnR influence?

I like the CD. It's a good cross between GnR and STP. It is not as heavy as some GnR.


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[Jeff7]

Originally posted by: MrChad

Originally posted by: MichaelD
BTW, it's really fcking nice that this CD installs drivers on your HD w/o your knowledge or consent. That is WRONG. Just wrong. If the rip works, I'm returning the damn thing. FWIW, I'm going to find VRs website and leave them a nice little note.

Fck you and your copy protection. You sold out. I ripped the tracks anyway and returned the CD. I won't be seeing you when you give a concert in my city.

Bastards.

Doesn't that even further justify their use of copy protection, though? You ripped the tracks and returned the CD.

I agree that an audio CD silently installing drivers on your PC is equivalent to spyware and should be illegal.

Well in this case, ironically, it was copy protection that was the motive. Had there been no copy protection, there would be no aggrivation here at all.


From the lawsuit article:

As most Windows-users already know, the shift-key instructs Windows to ignore the AutoRun feature
found on the disc.

Most? I never knew that; I know now. Of course, first thing I do on a fresh install of Windows is disable autorun; it's more irritating than useful. Opening Explorer and double-clicking Setup.exe usually isn't really that much of a torturous experience.

Programs that silently install drivers should die a painful death

It's a form of trespassing onto private property.

 

[imported_jediknight]

Originally posted by: Sid59

Originally posted by: jediknight
I had a similar issue with the D12 World CD. Although the difference is the CD does not even read in my CD-RW or DVD+R drive. I managed to get it to read in Alcohol 120% (and that program only..) and I was able to make a CD image of it.. and I can now play it via a virtual drive.. but I cannot rip the tracks.. either from the CD or the image. Any suggestions?

if it's mounted a CD IMAGE .. you can use something like EAC to rip the tracks.

You'd think so.. but the drive with the image doesn't show up in EAC..

 

[RampantAndroid]

Quick note, followed this thread from a different link on one of your posts MichaelD, but there are some games that won't run if you have cd ripping or emulating software on your computer. The main one is Farcry. It won't run, even if it is a program to LEGALLY back up your discs (I do, so my games run off the HD, its faster!)
On a different note, product activation like the type the Microsoft uses on Win XP, is also illigal. They are restricting your use of your computer....

 

[MrChad]

Originally posted by: RampantAndroid
Quick note, followed this thread from a different link on one of your posts MichaelD, but there are some games that won't run if you have cd ripping or emulating software on your computer. The main one is Farcry. It won't run, even if it is a program to LEGALLY back up your discs (I do, so my games run off the HD, its faster!)
On a different note, product activation like the type the Microsoft uses on Win XP, is also illigal. They are restricting your use of your computer....

Product activation is in no way illegal, and frankly, I don't have a problem with it as long as it's implemented in a non-intrusive manner. XP's product activation is simple and painless, and it doesn't restrict your computer use at all as long as you use XP legally. The infamous TurboTax activation scheme, on the other hand, installed permanent software on hidden sectors of your hard drive. This type of copy protection is intrusive and unnecessary.

As far as game copy protection goes, I'm torn. I tend to agree with the argument that people who want to pirate games are going to pirate games, and elaborate schemes (such as detecting third-party emulation software) to thwart would-be piraters only succeeds in annoying and driving away legitimate customers. A system such as Microsoft's activation is nice, but my guess is that few game publishers have the resources to support such an endeavor.

 

[drag]

People shouldn't pirate games and music and manufactures shouldn't put encryption, restrictions, and disable stuff they sell to consumers.

It's like getting rid the the smell of bullsh^t by covering it up with piles of dogsh^t.

Why are you going to restrict the use of a product you sell to consumers? We aren't the enemy, you need our money, but by doing stuff they make it worthless for a percentage of the people that buy it.

I bought a audio e-book from amazon a while ago. Their "official" audio book buddy company. Only works in Windows, only work with their propriatory player.

F*CK that. I'd never even think about buying from them again, and I wouldn't recommend anybody else doing it either. There are other ways and other companies that do better. I give them my money, not somebody you treats you like a theif just because they are paraniod about people stealing copies they wouldn't of never bought in the first place.

Take the CD back, it's defective. Philips (original developer of CD's) says it's defective; they won't liscence their "Philips compact disk" logo to it if it's broken. Look for that next time. (scroll down to the copy protection section of this page)

There are plenty of other companies that respect you and don't treat you bad like this. Plenty of other music bands that don't go with crap record labels.

If people show they don't care about this sort of thing, then eventually all cdroms will be broken. If they do care and don't give money to these cretins then it will die on the vine and we won't ever have to deal with it.

 

[BFG10K]

Try ripping to lossless WMA using WMP 9.0.

Also that CD totally rocks.

 

[Sunner]

There are plenty of other companies that respect you and don't treat you bad like this. Plenty of other music bands that don't go with crap record labels.

Pretty much all of the major labels are going along with this "anti piracy" BS.
Luckily for me, most of the bands I enjoy are under smaller more specialized labels, Spinefarm, Noise, Nuclearblast, etc

 

[Wellcky]

I had to rip my copy to my HDD if I wanted to play it on my computer otherwise it would play at warp speed and sound like crap.

Man that ticked me off!!!

 

[Cobalt]

Originally posted by: BlueWeasel
it's a long shot, but have you tried using CDex?

Actually I was succesful in ripping mine using CDex. Happily listening to it on my iRiver now

 

[Cobalt]

Originally posted by: paperfist
Mind if I ask if the VR CD is any good? Does it all sound like that one track they have on the radio atm (you know STPish) or does it get a little heavy with it's GnR influence?

It's not too bad, of course I was never a fan of Weiland. I think Sebastian Bach would of been a better choice, but that's my opinion.

 

[Lonyo]

Originally posted by: Sunner

There are plenty of other companies that respect you and don't treat you bad like this. Plenty of other music bands that don't go with crap record labels.

Pretty much all of the major labels are going along with this "anti piracy" BS.
Luckily for me, most of the bands I enjoy are under smaller more specialized labels, Spinefarm, Noise, Nuclearblast, etc

I think I might know most of the bands you lsiten to.
Most of the band I like are on those labels. I wonder where they are from
Hell, some of those labels (one at least) has one or 2 tracks from each artist available for mp3 download on the main website!

 

[MichaelD]

Hey, the threads' still alive? Cool?

I never did get around to returning the CD; I have it ripped to 320KB/s MP3s along with a bunch of others on a CD in my truck.

I still feel that the VR CD copy protection is BS and that the spyware install is also BS...other than that, you guys are doing just fine in this thread w/o me! Carry on. MichaelD: out.

 

[RudeBoie]

If you don't like it, I guess you're supposed to use your right to NOT buy it.

I did want the Velvet Revolver CD but I won't buy a CD for $10+ if I can't rip it.

 

[BFG10K]

Again, I had no trouble ripping it to lossless WMA. From there you should be able to convert it to whatever you like.

 

[nitromullet]

Picked this thread up from the link in your sig...

I'm surprised no one has commented on this from link posted by drag

Philips have stated that such discs, which do not meet the Red Book specification, are not permitted to bear the trademarked Compact Disc Digital Audio logo. It also seems likely that Philips' new models of CD recorders will be designed to be able to record from these 'protected' discs.

That is a major thing in this day and age, and this type of stance is rare. I have an mp3 player in my car, and I rip every CD I buy. I leave the original at home and take the mp3's with me. This would be a reason for me to go exclusively Phillips from here on out for CD-ROMS.

 

[JetBlack69]

After reading drag's link, I don't think I'm going to get Pink Floyd's Dark Side Of The Moon SACD anytime soon

SACD also has copy protection features at the physical level, which for the moment appear to make this format nearly impossible to pirate. These include 80 bit encryption of the audio data, with a key encoded on a special area of the disk that is only readable by a licensed SACD device.

copy protection. :|

 

[artemicion]

This debacle is more Microsoft's fault than the recording industry.
I usually don't side with the Linux and other anti-Microsoft fanboys that do childish things such as "Micro$oft", but AUTORUN is just the most absurd and ridiculous thing I've heard of in my entire life. Stupid people trying to cater to other stupid people who can't figure out to double click a goddamn .exe when they insert a CD.