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SpunkyJones

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Originally posted by: MyStupidMouth
Originally posted by: sash1
lot of bandwagon NE fans here

Been watching the pats since Drew Bledsoe first started playing with them in 93.

Noob! I use to go see Jim Plunkett play at Schaeffer Stadium.

Dam, that means I'm old.
 

SSSnail

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Nov 29, 2006
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Let's put things in perspective yeah?

Despite their records, the Eagles last night was a championship teams. Do we have a agreement? They played well offensively, their quarterback stood up to pressure, threw well and connected three times in the end zone. Westbrook ran like Forest Gump. Defensively, they put a lot of pressure on Brady, sacked him three times, and were on the elite WRs of NE like white on rice. They scored 28 points, which is very good for any teams.

On the other side of the spectrum, we have a team that seems to just didn't have the shits together. A team that performed like second rate nobody. Dropped balls, failed third down conversions, failed goal line attempts, left holes wide open, stupid penalties, etc... Yet, they won.

Which is a better team? Honestly ask yourself that.

When you're the best, everybody expects you to always be the best and if you even fall a bit short of expectation, you're criticized. Even with all their faults, they still manage to win over a team that put all their hearts and mind into that game. To me, that's the spirit of a champion.
 

ThePresence

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Originally posted by: SSSnail
Let's put things in perspective yeah?

Despite their records, the Eagles last night was a championship teams. Do we have a agreement? They played well offensively, their quarterback stood up to pressure, threw well and connected three times in the end zone. Westbrook ran like Forest Gump. Defensively, they put a lot of pressure on Brady, sacked him three times, and were on the elite WRs of NE like white on rice. They scored 28 points, which is very good for any teams.

On the other side of the spectrum, we have a team that seems to just didn't have the shits together. A team that performed like second rate nobody. Dropped balls, failed third down conversions, failed goal line attempts, left holes wide open, stupid penalties, etc... Yet, they won.

Which is a better team? Honestly ask yourself that.

When you're the best, everybody expects you to always be the best and if you even fall a bit short of expectation, you're criticized. Even with all their faults, they still manage to win over a team that put all their hearts and mind into that game. To me, that's the spirit of a champion.

What you say has some truth, but I think it's not so much that they still managed to win as much as a ridiculous and completely uneccesary playcall of going deep late in the game when the Eagles were driving down the field just fine and running the clock out towards what could've been a great win. The call to chuck it up in the endzone there was beyond stupid, I couldn't believe it myself. That's why they won the game. They were LUCKY to win it IMO, it's not like they outlasted the Eagles or were the better team on the field. JMO.
 

SSSnail

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Nov 29, 2006
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Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: SSSnail
Let's put things in perspective yeah?

Despite their records, the Eagles last night was a championship teams. Do we have a agreement? They played well offensively, their quarterback stood up to pressure, threw well and connected three times in the end zone. Westbrook ran like Forest Gump. Defensively, they put a lot of pressure on Brady, sacked him three times, and were on the elite WRs of NE like white on rice. They scored 28 points, which is very good for any teams.

On the other side of the spectrum, we have a team that seems to just didn't have the shits together. A team that performed like second rate nobody. Dropped balls, failed third down conversions, failed goal line attempts, left holes wide open, stupid penalties, etc... Yet, they won.

Which is a better team? Honestly ask yourself that.

When you're the best, everybody expects you to always be the best and if you even fall a bit short of expectation, you're criticized. Even with all their faults, they still manage to win over a team that put all their hearts and mind into that game. To me, that's the spirit of a champion.

What you say has some truth, but I think it's not so much that they still managed to win as much as a ridiculous and completely uneccesary playcall of going deep late in the game when the Eagles were driving down the field just fine and running the clock out towards what could've been a great win. The call to chuck it up in the endzone there was beyond stupid, I couldn't believe it myself. That's why they won the game. They were LUCKY to win it IMO, it's not like they outlasted the Eagles or were the better team on the field. JMO.

Actually, it was a gutsy call, because they WANTED to win it big. I think it was more of a personal call on A.J. because if he connected, his name will go into history books and children will sing songs about him for years.

But, it didn't.

Admittedly, the Pats didn't look good on the field last night, but they played. Not well, but enough to win and that's what mattered.
 

BeauJangles

Lifer
Aug 26, 2001
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Originally posted by: SSSnail
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: SSSnail
Let's put things in perspective yeah?

Despite their records, the Eagles last night was a championship teams. Do we have a agreement? They played well offensively, their quarterback stood up to pressure, threw well and connected three times in the end zone. Westbrook ran like Forest Gump. Defensively, they put a lot of pressure on Brady, sacked him three times, and were on the elite WRs of NE like white on rice. They scored 28 points, which is very good for any teams.

On the other side of the spectrum, we have a team that seems to just didn't have the shits together. A team that performed like second rate nobody. Dropped balls, failed third down conversions, failed goal line attempts, left holes wide open, stupid penalties, etc... Yet, they won.

Which is a better team? Honestly ask yourself that.

When you're the best, everybody expects you to always be the best and if you even fall a bit short of expectation, you're criticized. Even with all their faults, they still manage to win over a team that put all their hearts and mind into that game. To me, that's the spirit of a champion.

What you say has some truth, but I think it's not so much that they still managed to win as much as a ridiculous and completely uneccesary playcall of going deep late in the game when the Eagles were driving down the field just fine and running the clock out towards what could've been a great win. The call to chuck it up in the endzone there was beyond stupid, I couldn't believe it myself. That's why they won the game. They were LUCKY to win it IMO, it's not like they outlasted the Eagles or were the better team on the field. JMO.

Actually, it was a gutsy call, because they WANTED to win it big. I think it was more of a personal call on A.J. because if he connected, his name will go into history books and children will sing songs about him for years.

But, it didn't.

Admittedly, the Pats didn't look good on the field last night, but they played. Not well, but enough to win and that's what mattered.

Well, what scares you more? A team that has blown out everyone by 25 pts or a team that, although it has a number of blowouts, has also managed to win when it hasn't played well or when the opponent has risen to the challenge?

Personally, the idea the Pats can go into a game against the Eagles and pitch such a stinker and STILL wins scares me a lot more than if they had won by 60 pts.
 

Alistar7

Lifer
May 13, 2002
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Originally posted by: SSSnail
Let's put things in perspective yeah?

Despite their records, the Eagles last night was a championship teams. Do we have a agreement? They played well offensively, their quarterback stood up to pressure, threw well and connected three times in the end zone. Westbrook ran like Forest Gump. Defensively, they put a lot of pressure on Brady, sacked him three times, and were on the elite WRs of NE like white on rice. They scored 28 points, which is very good for any teams.

On the other side of the spectrum, we have a team that seems to just didn't have the shits together. A team that performed like second rate nobody. Dropped balls, failed third down conversions, failed goal line attempts, left holes wide open, stupid penalties, etc... Yet, they won.

Which is a better team? Honestly ask yourself that.

When you're the best, everybody expects you to always be the best and if you even fall a bit short of expectation, you're criticized. Even with all their faults, they still manage to win over a team that put all their hearts and mind into that game. To me, that's the spirit of a champion.



Enough Kool Aid for you....

 

SSSnail

Lifer
Nov 29, 2006
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Originally posted by: Alistar7
Originally posted by: SSSnail
Let's put things in perspective yeah?

Despite their records, the Eagles last night was a championship teams. Do we have a agreement? They played well offensively, their quarterback stood up to pressure, threw well and connected three times in the end zone. Westbrook ran like Forest Gump. Defensively, they put a lot of pressure on Brady, sacked him three times, and were on the elite WRs of NE like white on rice. They scored 28 points, which is very good for any teams.

On the other side of the spectrum, we have a team that seems to just didn't have the shits together. A team that performed like second rate nobody. Dropped balls, failed third down conversions, failed goal line attempts, left holes wide open, stupid penalties, etc... Yet, they won.

Which is a better team? Honestly ask yourself that.

When you're the best, everybody expects you to always be the best and if you even fall a bit short of expectation, you're criticized. Even with all their faults, they still manage to win over a team that put all their hearts and mind into that game. To me, that's the spirit of a champion.



Enough Kool Aid for you....

And of course I wouldn't expect anything else out of you but that.
 

Syringer

Lifer
Aug 2, 2001
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The biggest losers here, are the Baltimore Ravens. Who knows what the Pats will have lined up for them next week..
 

Alistar7

Lifer
May 13, 2002
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Originally posted by: SSSnail
Originally posted by: Alistar7
Originally posted by: SSSnail
Let's put things in perspective yeah?

Despite their records, the Eagles last night was a championship teams. Do we have a agreement? They played well offensively, their quarterback stood up to pressure, threw well and connected three times in the end zone. Westbrook ran like Forest Gump. Defensively, they put a lot of pressure on Brady, sacked him three times, and were on the elite WRs of NE like white on rice. They scored 28 points, which is very good for any teams.

On the other side of the spectrum, we have a team that seems to just didn't have the shits together. A team that performed like second rate nobody. Dropped balls, failed third down conversions, failed goal line attempts, left holes wide open, stupid penalties, etc... Yet, they won.

Which is a better team? Honestly ask yourself that.

When you're the best, everybody expects you to always be the best and if you even fall a bit short of expectation, you're criticized. Even with all their faults, they still manage to win over a team that put all their hearts and mind into that game. To me, that's the spirit of a champion.



Enough Kool Aid for you....

And of course I wouldn't expect anything else out of you but that.

Your post was amusing but hardly factual. Just another fanboi perspective, of course I wouldn't expect anything more from you than that. Why are you trying to rationalize a WIN and asking for supportive consensus? Did that game actually rattle your fragile ego that badly lol, get a grip bro you have nothing to do with "your" team.

Philli is not a championship team. As well as their offense played, their offensive mistakes cost them that game. I did not see them all over Welker, or does he not count as one of the elite NE WR? I did not see anything to suggest NE did not have their "shit together". I saw another team disrupting what they wanted to accomplish, as did most unbiased observers.
 

BigJ

Lifer
Nov 18, 2001
21,335
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Originally posted by: SSSnail
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: SSSnail
Let's put things in perspective yeah?

Despite their records, the Eagles last night was a championship teams. Do we have a agreement? They played well offensively, their quarterback stood up to pressure, threw well and connected three times in the end zone. Westbrook ran like Forest Gump. Defensively, they put a lot of pressure on Brady, sacked him three times, and were on the elite WRs of NE like white on rice. They scored 28 points, which is very good for any teams.

On the other side of the spectrum, we have a team that seems to just didn't have the shits together. A team that performed like second rate nobody. Dropped balls, failed third down conversions, failed goal line attempts, left holes wide open, stupid penalties, etc... Yet, they won.

Which is a better team? Honestly ask yourself that.

When you're the best, everybody expects you to always be the best and if you even fall a bit short of expectation, you're criticized. Even with all their faults, they still manage to win over a team that put all their hearts and mind into that game. To me, that's the spirit of a champion.

What you say has some truth, but I think it's not so much that they still managed to win as much as a ridiculous and completely uneccesary playcall of going deep late in the game when the Eagles were driving down the field just fine and running the clock out towards what could've been a great win. The call to chuck it up in the endzone there was beyond stupid, I couldn't believe it myself. That's why they won the game. They were LUCKY to win it IMO, it's not like they outlasted the Eagles or were the better team on the field. JMO.

Actually, it was a gutsy call, because they WANTED to win it big. I think it was more of a personal call on A.J. because if he connected, his name will go into history books and children will sing songs about him for years.

But, it didn't.

Admittedly, the Pats didn't look good on the field last night, but they played. Not well, but enough to win and that's what mattered.

It was a crap call plain and simple. Win it big? A win by a point would've been a big win over the Pats this season. He'd still go in the books.

You do NOT give Tom Brady the football in the fourth quarter with you only up by 4 with 4 minutes to go. You just don't do it. I don't care how well your team has been playing up until this point. He is Mr. Clutch.

On top of that, AJ was hitting everything at and around the 1st down marker. Run the ball at least once per set of downs, kill some time off the clock, and get it in the end zone for a TD. Hopefully you give them the ball back with 1:30 or around there to spare.

I like my chances against Brady with 1:30 to go much better than Brady with 4:00 to go.
 

SSSnail

Lifer
Nov 29, 2006
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Originally posted by: Alistar7
Your post was amusing but hardly factual. Just another fanboi perspective, of course I wouldn't expect anything more from you than that. Why are you trying to rationalize a WIN and asking for supportive consensus? Did that game actually rattle your fragile ego that badly lol, get a grip bro you have nothing to do with "your" team.

Philli is not a championship team. As well as their offense played, their offensive mistakes cost them that game. I did not see them all over Welker, or does he not count as one of the elite NE WR? I did not see anything to suggest NE did not have their "shit together". I saw another team disrupting what they wanted to accomplish, as did most unbiased observers.

What in my post wasn't factual? The win or the bad plays or the Eagles impressive game?

Phillies is not a championship team? They played like they were, and that was my point. Also, they were in the Superbowl against the Pats just two years ago, I hope you remember that. They were all over Welker as well, but he's fast. Maybe you and I were seeing two different games, but everybody know that the Pats didn't play their best yesterday, to mildly put.

Yes, I'm a "fanboi", and unbiased is anything but you. If anybody remotely mention Patriots, you'll be there to bash them, drop the ruse.
 

BigJ

Lifer
Nov 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: SSSnail
Originally posted by: Alistar7
Your post was amusing but hardly factual. Just another fanboi perspective, of course I wouldn't expect anything more from you than that. Why are you trying to rationalize a WIN and asking for supportive consensus? Did that game actually rattle your fragile ego that badly lol, get a grip bro you have nothing to do with "your" team.

Philli is not a championship team. As well as their offense played, their offensive mistakes cost them that game. I did not see them all over Welker, or does he not count as one of the elite NE WR? I did not see anything to suggest NE did not have their "shit together". I saw another team disrupting what they wanted to accomplish, as did most unbiased observers.

What in my post wasn't factual? The win or the bad plays or the Eagles impressive game?

Phillies is not a championship team? They played like they were, and that was my point. Also, they were in the Superbowl against the Pats just two years ago, I hope you remember that. They were all over Welker as well, but he's fast. Maybe you and I were seeing two different games, but everybody know that the Pats didn't play their best yesterday, to mildly put.

Yes, I'm a "fanboi", and unbiased is anything but you. If anybody remotely mention Patriots, you'll be there to bash them, drop the ruse.

Philly did not play like a championship team (unless you're talking about the Steelers ).

Feely threw well, but he did have three interceptions, two of them coming when it mattered the most. Championship teams do not do that.

Also, they played well. Playing like a champion today would've entailed them routing the Patriots, considering they played like the Jets yesterday. Well, minus the fourth quarter collapse.
 

ThePresence

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Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: SSSnail
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: SSSnail
Let's put things in perspective yeah?

Despite their records, the Eagles last night was a championship teams. Do we have a agreement? They played well offensively, their quarterback stood up to pressure, threw well and connected three times in the end zone. Westbrook ran like Forest Gump. Defensively, they put a lot of pressure on Brady, sacked him three times, and were on the elite WRs of NE like white on rice. They scored 28 points, which is very good for any teams.

On the other side of the spectrum, we have a team that seems to just didn't have the shits together. A team that performed like second rate nobody. Dropped balls, failed third down conversions, failed goal line attempts, left holes wide open, stupid penalties, etc... Yet, they won.

Which is a better team? Honestly ask yourself that.

When you're the best, everybody expects you to always be the best and if you even fall a bit short of expectation, you're criticized. Even with all their faults, they still manage to win over a team that put all their hearts and mind into that game. To me, that's the spirit of a champion.

What you say has some truth, but I think it's not so much that they still managed to win as much as a ridiculous and completely uneccesary playcall of going deep late in the game when the Eagles were driving down the field just fine and running the clock out towards what could've been a great win. The call to chuck it up in the endzone there was beyond stupid, I couldn't believe it myself. That's why they won the game. They were LUCKY to win it IMO, it's not like they outlasted the Eagles or were the better team on the field. JMO.

Actually, it was a gutsy call, because they WANTED to win it big. I think it was more of a personal call on A.J. because if he connected, his name will go into history books and children will sing songs about him for years.

But, it didn't.

Admittedly, the Pats didn't look good on the field last night, but they played. Not well, but enough to win and that's what mattered.

It was a crap call plain and simple. Win it big? A win by a point would've been a big win over the Pats this season. He'd still go in the books.

You do NOT give Tom Brady the football in the fourth quarter with you only up by 4 with 4 minutes to go. You just don't do it. I don't care how well your team has been playing up until this point. He is Mr. Clutch.

On top of that, AJ was hitting everything at and around the 1st down marker. Run the ball at least once per set of downs, kill some time off the clock, and get it in the end zone for a TD. Hopefully you give them the ball back with 1:30 or around there to spare.

I like my chances against Brady with 1:30 to go much better than Brady with 4:00 to go.

QFT.
 

SSSnail

Lifer
Nov 29, 2006
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How's this?

WE WON, YOU LOST, and youse teams can go cry moar prease... nah nah nah naahhh nahhhh.... pfffttttt.

End of discussion.
 

Alistar7

Lifer
May 13, 2002
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Originally posted by: SSSnail
Originally posted by: Alistar7
Your post was amusing but hardly factual. Just another fanboi perspective, of course I wouldn't expect anything more from you than that. Why are you trying to rationalize a WIN and asking for supportive consensus? Did that game actually rattle your fragile ego that badly lol, get a grip bro you have nothing to do with "your" team.

Philli is not a championship team. As well as their offense played, their offensive mistakes cost them that game. I did not see them all over Welker, or does he not count as one of the elite NE WR? I did not see anything to suggest NE did not have their "shit together". I saw another team disrupting what they wanted to accomplish, as did most unbiased observers.

What in my post wasn't factual? The win or the bad plays or the Eagles impressive game?

Phillies is not a championship team? They played like they were, and that was my point. Also, they were in the Superbowl against the Pats just two years ago, I hope you remember that. They were all over Welker as well, but he's fast. Maybe you and I were seeing two different games, but everybody know that the Pats didn't play their best yesterday, to mildly put.

Yes, I'm a "fanboi", and unbiased is anything but you. If anybody remotely mention Patriots, you'll be there to bash them, drop the ruse.

Bash them? You need to go check my posts about them, I have hardly bashed them. I have stated I have no problem with the "spying" incident, I have stated I would be thrilled to see them go undefeated, I have stated I have no problem with them running up the score and suggested other teams step up their play rather than expecting the Pats to tone theirs down. Earlier in this thread I even defended their fans enthusiam and refuted the claim they are "bandwagon".

I pointed out what was not factual, and what was merely your opinion from a NE fan's perspective. You will not ever see the difference, you are too wrapped up in your identity crisis that is alarmingly associated with the football team you back. Other than NE fans everyone else including John "The Patriots are a gift from God" Madden observed the Eagles disrupting NE, not NE playing "as if they didn't have their shit together".

That was not nearly the same Beagles squad that stepped onto the SB field 3 seasons ago, not 2. Did you see TO and McNabb on the field last night? They are a sub .500 team this year, that is all that matters.

http://www.mergetek.com/sports.aspx?ArticleID=39

 

Alistar7

Lifer
May 13, 2002
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Originally posted by: SSSnail
How's this?

WE WON, YOU LOST, and youse teams can go cry moar prease... nah nah nah naahhh nahhhh.... pfffttttt.

End of discussion.

You didn't win anything lol.

Why are you trying to rationalize a WIN and asking for supportive consensus? Did that game actually rattle your fragile ego that badly lol, get a grip bro you have nothing to do with "your" team.

I was obviously dead on with that assesment.
 

SSSnail

Lifer
Nov 29, 2006
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Last I check, this is 2007.

Secondly, you have no comprehension of what I said regarding "hearts and minds" in association with championship caliber.

Thirdly, I don't have the time nor care to go search for the numerous threads and posts that you dissed the Patriots. It's moot because anybody has ever read your posts know.

I'm out.
 

Alistar7

Lifer
May 13, 2002
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Originally posted by: SSSnail
Last I check, this is 2007.

Secondly, you have no comprehension of what I said regarding "hearts and minds" in association with championship caliber.

Thirdly, I don't have the time nor care to go search for the numerous threads and posts that you dissed the Patriots. It's moot because anybody has ever read your posts know.

I'm out.

Last I checked the Eagles from the 2004 season made it to the SB that was played in 2005, that was still the Eagles team from three seasons ago. Since their defeat I have seen two other Super Bowls, with Pitt and the Colts winning one each.

You can search all you want, you won't find any where I bash NE. Other than NE fans on this board I have supported them far more than anyone. Pointing out my opinion on how well they match up against a certain opponent, or discussing potential weaknesses is not bashing.

Your comment regarding the "hearts and minds" was just stupid. Yes you are out, out of your freaking mind champ.

Here are some of my comments regarding NE in this thread:

I think they showed great resiliency as opposed to a loss of confidence.
(hearts and minds of a champion anyone, doh)

I think the team is far too poised to let it go to their head; however you have to understand the enthusiam of their fans.



 

SoulAssassin

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Anyone point me to a torrent of the game? I was there so in some way or another I'd like to think I'm legally entitled to watch a d/led version. The friggin girlfriend tivo'd the non-HD version and it looks like crap.
 
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