Eagles vs. Steelers

[Ferocious]

Vote!

Simply who will win the game.

 

[FFactory0x]

EAGLES!!!!! STEELERS CAN GO PACK SOME FUDGE AND DIE

 

[Feldenak]

I dunno who will win this week but I'm forcasting an Eagles collapse in the playoffs.

As long as T.O. doesn't get a Super Bowl ring, I'll be happy.

 

[SP33Demon]

Who will cover TO? I repeat, who will cover TO? Shtsburgh is #9 in Pass D, with Philly dismantling #6, 7 and 8 (Carolina, Baltimore, and Chicago) Pass D's. How are the Stillers any different? Who will be the chump this week vs the best receiver in the NFL? :

Ricardo Colclough CB
29 Chidi Iwuoma CB
30 Chad Scott CB
24 Ike Taylor CB
26 Deshea Townsend CB
27 Willie Williams CB

and last but not least, are any of the above names better than Chris McAllister on the Ravens?

 

[murphy55d]

Carolina, Baltimore, and Chicago have no offense either. 15 points might beat the hapless Ravens offense, but it won't be enough to beat the Steelers offense. Pittsburgh does not have a CB who matches up well with Owens, but the Eagles do not have enough CBs to match up with Ward, Burress, AND Randle El.

Should be a good game.

 

[Doboji]

Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Who will cover TO? I repeat, who will cover TO? Shtsburgh is #9 in Pass D, with Philly dismantling #6, 7 and 8 (Carolina, Baltimore, and Chicago) Pass D's. How are the Stillers any different? Who will be the chump this week vs the best receiver in the NFL? :

Ricardo Colclough CB
29 Chidi Iwuoma CB
30 Chad Scott CB
24 Ike Taylor CB
26 Deshea Townsend CB
27 Willie Williams CB

and last but not least, are any of the above names better than Chris McAllister on the Ravens?

TO is going to be covered by Mcnabb getting sacked 5 times... And by the fact that the steelers are going to dominate time of possession. Yes TO will score... maybe even twice... but that won't be enough.

Steelers will win... 24-17

-Max

 

[Modeps]

I've got both Big Ben and McNabb in my FF League, who to start?

 

[Doboji]

Originally posted by: Modeps
I've got both Big Ben and McNabb in my FF League, who to start?

McNabb of course

 

[Deeko]

Steelers.

Don't forget this is the team that just knocked off the Patriots. Granted the Pat's were minus Ty Law and Corey Dillon, the Steelers didn't just beat them, they stomped them good. Roethlisburger is showing poise and maturity many vets don't even have...imagine the pressure of being a rookie, being on a 5-0 run, and facing a team on a 21 game winning streak. In my opinion, Duce Staley is STILL better than Westbrook(who may not even play), plus do the Eagles have a big, bruising guy to power his way for short yardage like the Bus? I think not.

No, the Steelers do not have any WR that matches TO, however, I'd take their trio in a heartbeat. Ward and Burress are about as good a duo as you'll find in this league.

No, they don't have a CB that can handle TO and man-man coverage. So double cover him, and rely in the rest of their defense being solid(as it is) to make up for it.

I'd also like to point out that the Eagles biggest games this year have come at home(see Vikings, Ravens). This is arguably their toughest test(you could argue for the Vikings, but the AFC is 10x better than the NFC), and its taking place on the opponents turf.

Next week: loss to the Steelers
Week after: horrible, crushing, embarassing defeat to the Cowboys

 

[mchammer187]

Originally posted by: Doboji

Originally posted by: Modeps
I've got both Big Ben and McNabb in my FF League, who to start?

McNabb of course

doesn't this contradict exactly what you just said

Originally posted by: Doboji

Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Who will cover TO? I repeat, who will cover TO? Shtsburgh is #9 in Pass D, with Philly dismantling #6, 7 and 8 (Carolina, Baltimore, and Chicago) Pass D's. How are the Stillers any different? Who will be the chump this week vs the best receiver in the NFL? :

Ricardo Colclough CB
29 Chidi Iwuoma CB
30 Chad Scott CB
24 Ike Taylor CB
26 Deshea Townsend CB
27 Willie Williams CB

and last but not least, are any of the above names better than Chris McAllister on the Ravens?

TO is going to be covered by Mcnabb getting sacked 5 times... And by the fact that the steelers are going to dominate time of possession. Yes TO will score... maybe even twice... but that won't be enough.

Steelers will win... 24-17

-Max

 

[y2kc]

I like the Eagles this week (and next).

 

[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: Doboji

Originally posted by: Modeps
I've got both Big Ben and McNabb in my FF League, who to start?

McNabb of course

He's good about getting lots of FF points....provided it is regular season....SNAP :evil:

I should start a pool on when the Eagles will lose in the post-season this year...

 

[Doboji]

Originally posted by: mchammer187

Originally posted by: Doboji

Originally posted by: Modeps
I've got both Big Ben and McNabb in my FF League, who to start?

McNabb of course

doesn't this contradict exactly what you just said

Originally posted by: Doboji

Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Who will cover TO? I repeat, who will cover TO? Shtsburgh is #9 in Pass D, with Philly dismantling #6, 7 and 8 (Carolina, Baltimore, and Chicago) Pass D's. How are the Stillers any different? Who will be the chump this week vs the best receiver in the NFL? :

Ricardo Colclough CB
29 Chidi Iwuoma CB
30 Chad Scott CB
24 Ike Taylor CB
26 Deshea Townsend CB
27 Willie Williams CB

and last but not least, are any of the above names better than Chris McAllister on the Ravens?

TO is going to be covered by Mcnabb getting sacked 5 times... And by the fact that the steelers are going to dominate time of possession. Yes TO will score... maybe even twice... but that won't be enough.

Steelers will win... 24-17

-Max

Absolutely not... Mcnabb is going to have a better day than Big Ben, but the eagles will still lose...

McNabb ~230yds 2 tds Roeth 180-200Yds 1 TD

-Max

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: murphy55d
Carolina, Baltimore, and Chicago have no offense either. 15 points might beat the hapless Ravens offense, but it won't be enough to beat the Steelers offense. Pittsburgh does not have a CB who matches up well with Owens, but the Eagles do not have enough CBs to match up with Ward, Burress, AND Randle El.

Should be a good game.

You're right, TO is 6-3 and 235 lbs (listed at 226 official but he's stronger this year).

Look at the size matchup problems the Steelers will have with this:

21 Ricardo Colclough CB 22 5-11 186 R Tusculum
29 Chidi Iwuoma CB 26 5-8 184 4 California
30 Chad Scott CB 30 6-1 202 8 Maryland OUT FOR YEAR
24 Ike Taylor CB 24 6-1 191 2 Louisiana-Lafayette
26 Deshea Townsend CB 29 5-10 190 7 Alabama STARTER, BEST CB
27 Willie Williams CB 33 5-9 194 12 Western Carolina Starter
23 Tyrone Carter S 28 5-8 190 5 Minnesota
28 Chris Hope S 24 5-11 206 3 Florida State Starter?
43 Troy Polamalu S 23 5-10 212 2 USC
33 Russell Stuvaints S 24 6-0 202 2 Youngstown State Starter?

Like Max said, the LB and DL for Pittsburgh better get pressure early and often vs McNabb or he's going to have a field day with the TO mismatch.

Also, you seem to forget that Philly's pass D handled Randy Moss in single coverage

 

[Kev]

I think it's great and everything that the steelers are excited over their first victory against a team with a winning record this year, but they will not win next week. Even with westbrook out. The steelers are a fraud.

 

[geno]

Phillay Phillay!

 

[Kev]

and for an example of just how poorly new england played yesterday (forget about the streak) - they let bettis break off a 30 YARD RUN. that is absolutely pathetic. the patriots also ran for FOUR YARDS with dillon out. the steelers had a good game against a team that just didnt show up

 

[Kev]

Originally posted by: Deeko
Steelers.

Don't forget this is the team that just knocked off the Patriots. Granted the Pat's were minus Ty Law and Corey Dillon, the Steelers didn't just beat them, they stomped them good. Roethlisburger is showing poise and maturity many vets don't even have...imagine the pressure of being a rookie, being on a 5-0 run, and facing a team on a 21 game winning streak. In my opinion, Duce Staley is STILL better than Westbrook(who may not even play), plus do the Eagles have a big, bruising guy to power his way for short yardage like the Bus? I think not.

No, the Steelers do not have any WR that matches TO, however, I'd take their trio in a heartbeat. Ward and Burress are about as good a duo as you'll find in this league.

No, they don't have a CB that can handle TO and man-man coverage. So double cover him, and rely in the rest of their defense being solid(as it is) to make up for it.

I'd also like to point out that the Eagles biggest games this year have come at home(see Vikings, Ravens). This is arguably their toughest test(you could argue for the Vikings, but the AFC is 10x better than the NFC), and its taking place on the opponents turf.

Next week: loss to the Steelers
Week after: horrible, crushing, embarassing defeat to the Cowboys

well, the next 2 victories are guaranteed now. thanks deeko. just make sure you pick against us throughout the playoffs this year.

 

[Deeko]

Is weight what makes the CB? I hope you don't think so.

Champ Bailey - 6'0", 192
Chris McCallister - 6'1", 206
Ty Law - 5'11", 199
Fred Smoot - 5'11", 174
Ronde Barber - 5'10", 184

 

[Deeko]

I think it's great and everything that the steelers are excited over their first victory against a team with a winning record this year, but they will not win next week. Even with westbrook out. The steelers are a fraud.

You fvcking idiot, they didn't just "beat a team with a winning record", they beat the New England Patriots.

well, the next 2 victories are guaranteed now. thanks deeko. just make sure you pick against us throughout the playoffs this year.

You know, hard as it may be at admit for you, and biased as I may be, I know football better than most people I know. You, on the other hand, show the typical Philly lack of knowledge. That's fine with me though, you're the ignorant one, not me.

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: Deeko
Steelers.

Don't forget this is the team that just knocked off the Patriots. Granted the Pat's were minus Ty Law and Corey Dillon, the Steelers didn't just beat them, they stomped them good. Roethlisburger is showing poise and maturity many vets don't even have...imagine the pressure of being a rookie, being on a 5-0 run, and facing a team on a 21 game winning streak. In my opinion, Duce Staley is STILL better than Westbrook(who may not even play), plus do the Eagles have a big, bruising guy to power his way for short yardage like the Bus? I think not.

No, the Steelers do not have any WR that matches TO, however, I'd take their trio in a heartbeat. Ward and Burress are about as good a duo as you'll find in this league.

No, they don't have a CB that can handle TO and man-man coverage. So double cover him, and rely in the rest of their defense being solid(as it is) to make up for it.

I'd also like to point out that the Eagles biggest games this year have come at home(see Vikings, Ravens). This is arguably their toughest test(you could argue for the Vikings, but the AFC is 10x better than the NFC), and its taking place on the opponents turf.

Next week: loss to the Steelers
Week after: horrible, crushing, embarassing defeat to the Cowboys

I predicted the Steelers and Rams road games would be the toughest of the year, so yes anything's possible. If Westbrook is still out it probably gives the edge to the Steelers with home field and the fact they have Duce and Bus (their starters) available.

All in all,you can never count out Philly with TO, above you state: "No, they don't have a CB that can handle TO and man-man coverage. So double cover him, and rely in the rest of their defense being solid(as it is) to make up for it." Don't you think the Ravens did the same exact thing, after all they have a better defense than Pittsburgh and a 10X better CB in Pro Bowler McAllister and Deon and Ed Reed are better than any S on the Steelers. Talk is cheap, containing TO 100% of the time is close to impossible, just ask Baltimore. Nobody on the Steelers will be able to contain TO, even in double coverage, they're all midgets compared to him. Pittsburgh's only hope is to take and hold the lead (score a lot) vs Philly's avg defense...

 

[Deeko]

Yes, the Ravens clearly have a better D than the Steelers, but even when healthy, the Ravens offense is terrible...and they were missing their only 3 good players....and they were STILL one bobbled drop away from losing that game. Philly will score on them, but Pittsburgh will score more.

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: Deeko
Is weight what makes the CB? I hope you don't think so.

Champ Bailey - 6'0", 192
Chris McCallister - 6'1", 206
Ty Law - 5'11", 199
Fred Smoot - 5'11", 174
Ronde Barber - 5'10", 184

In open field tackling, yes. TO can bowl over anyone under 200 lbs in the open field/think stiff arm. With regards to height, TO at 6-3 has a ridiculous advantage over the guys you just listed, 9 times out of 10 any jump ball will be hauled down by TO or Randy Moss at 6-3 and 6-4 if placed in a decent spot. Why do you think the 5-8 guys on Pittsburgh's roster aren't starters? lol

 

[Deeko]

I would like to add to my examples about size a few safeties...

Your own Brian Dawkins, among the best FS in the league, is a mere 6'0" 200. Roy Williams on Dallas, also among the best FS in the league, and considered BIG for a safety(Parcells said last year that he was a few muffins away from being a linebacker) is 6'1" 228.

 

[Kev]

Originally posted by: Deeko

I think it's great and everything that the steelers are excited over their first victory against a team with a winning record this year, but they will not win next week. Even with westbrook out. The steelers are a fraud.

You fvcking idiot, they didn't just "beat a team with a winning record", they beat the New England Patriots.

well, the next 2 victories are guaranteed now. thanks deeko. just make sure you pick against us throughout the playoffs this year.

You know, hard as it may be at admit for you, and biased as I may be, I know football better than most people I know. You, on the other hand, show the typical Philly lack of knowledge. That's fine with me though, you're the ignorant one, not me.

my point is the patriots DIDN'T SHOW UP. they may have been wearing the same uniforms, but that wasn't the same new england team i've seen win over and over for the past year. i guess the miami dolphins are better than the rams by your logic.

all i have to say about that 2nd paragraph is this: you are a conceited little prick.