Early R600 details?

[SpeedZealot369]

Originally posted by: CP5670

Originally posted by: josh6079
Now we just need some leaked pics....

I'm curious, what card is this now that we've seen the X1950XTX and its cooler? I'm guessing it is some engineering sample of the X1950XTX since I think the R600 will have the internal SLI-like connectors on the pcb.

Yes, that's an early X1950. I remember the cooler looked a little different on the leaked images back then.

bingo

 

[Nightmare225]

Again, I'll reserve judgment until the cards actually come out. Until then, I'll be enjoying my G80

 

[thilanliyan]

Originally posted by: Matt2
If these wild claims turn out true, ATI is going to prone to a lot delays me thinks.

Look at how bad R520 was delayed and that didnt really bring anything to the table besides 90nm and HDR+AA.

R520 was delayed because of a 3rd party piece of IP...not something extremely crucial to the design IIRC.

 

[BFG10K]

Who needs 10, 20, even 40MB of 256MB/s EDRAM

The eDRAM has 256 GB/sec bandwidth. 256 MB/sec is less bandwidth than a GF2 MX with SDR memory.

 

[TheRyuu]

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Well?
They should have put eDRAM on the thing anyway. It doesn't matter if it's 160GB/s or 256GB/s, will it make my AA/AF free?? (i thought only eDRAM could do that)

I doubt these are the real specs, but if they can bring it to the $500-$600 price range, then it might be kick ass.

 

[LittleNemoNES]

Well I did hear February somewhere

Hey wreckage, I heard that the G80 was gonna be out March of next year...

 

[Zenoth]

All I want from ATi, once again this round, is to resume their use of the technology for HQ A-F, that isn't angle-dependent, and at 16x produces the best overall picture quality out there (well, even at 8x).

If R600 still has it, and if nVidia still can't make better methods for textures filtering than HQ A-F with G80, then I know I'll go with ATi, since, for me, image quality prevails over any amount of Anti-Aliasing. However if there is a new feature that really gets my attention with G80, then I'll consider them.

Right now all we know about G80 is the power it has. We've seen numbers and numbers. I see no mention of its architecture and its efficiency. Same with R600. When both of them are compared with details in in-depth reviews, then we'll all see what's up with the "next generation". Otherwise I believe that the current generation is more than sufficient until DX10 is regularly used for PC gaming, which shouldn't be before late 2007 or early 2008 ... or even later. They even talk about SM 4.0, when still today not all games exclusively use SM 3.0, that's just one example.

 

[biostud]

Originally posted by: TOAOCyrus
Maybe having AMD's fabs will make it cheaper. I would imagine they must spend a lot of money hiring companies like TSMC to make their chips.

AMD doesn't have any extra capacity so they can't produce the chips.

 

[TanisHalfElven]

Originally posted by: BFG10K

Who needs 10, 20, even 40MB of 256MB/s EDRAM

The eDRAM has 256 GB/sec bandwidth. 256 MB/sec is less bandwidth than a GF2 MX with SDR memory.

i was thinking there was something wrong with that post.
thanks.

 

[otispunkmeyer]

i doubt the 512bit bus

thats gotta be way to expensive to make, and with everything getting smaller will there even be room for the 512bit connection?

 

[otispunkmeyer]

Originally posted by: Creig

Before this already some news confirmed NVIDIA G80 will use 384bit to reveal saves the position funds, but the present top reveals the card all to use the 256bit position width. Although ATi R520/R580 but the interior used 512bit ring-like to reveal saves the main line its only then 4 to reveal saves the channel, the outside reveals saves the position width still was 256bit.
R600 will bring unprecedented true 512bit to reveal saves the position width, if will provide 2500MHz GDDR4 to reveal saves, then the band width will achieve astonishing 160G/s,we knew even if is the eDRAM band width which X-box in 360 inlays also only then 256GB/s,although in the speed eDRAM is quick many, but X-box 360 eDRAM only then 10MB, but R600 provides is actually 1024MB.
The R600 research and development code number will be Pele, will use TSMC 80 nanometer craft manufacture, will support DirectX 10 completely, will estimate in the next year first quarter issue.

And now let the arguments commence...

lol thats some mighty fine....er.... i dunno its not even engrish..... but its good

 

[jiffylube1024]

Man, ATI is between a rock and a hard place. It seems they love to repeat history ad nauseum. As usual it will be 3-6 months after Nvidia, who get a clean windows to sell their product at full MSRP while ATI makes promises. They have to get their sh!t together!!

So it looks like the card might have 2500 MHz GDDR4. That would be almost equal to Nvidia's bandwidth on G80 if ATI used a 256-bit bus, or astronomically bigger (and more expensive) if they were on a 512-bit bus. How much would the extra bandwidth help?

I've felt all along since Nvidia announced G80 would have 128 unified shaders that ATI's in trouble (I bet ATI was predicting 64+ unified shaders).

My suspicion is that maybe ATI only goes for a 256-bit bus - at 2500 MHz (1250X2), it has similar bandwidth to G80. 1024MB on the top card is a strong possibility, though - densities are increasing and by Q1 07 they should be where ATI needs them to sell a card with a gig of video memory. The question is how much will the eDRAM help?

 

[Creig]

Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer
lol thats some mighty fine....er.... i dunno its not even engrish..... but its good

Well, that's what the online translator spit out when I entered the text from the webpage. From what I can decipher:

G80
will be 256 bit, not 384 bit

R600
will be fully 512 bit
will have 2500MHz memory (plausible)
will have 160GB/s bandwidth (plausible, but only if running 0.7ns (2.8GHz) GDDR on 512 bit)
will be built using 80nm process
will fully support DX10


Is any of it true? Who knows...

 

[Creig]

Originally posted by: jiffylube1024
The question is how much will the eDRAM help?

I'm not sure they said it will have eDRAM. Again, from what I can decipher, they were only comparing the overall bandwidth of the R600 to that of the X-Box 360.