Earthlink or RoadRunner in NYC???

Ducati

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I have to get cable since my new location does not support dsl due to fiber optics. Which provider should I go with? Cable lines are owned by TIme Warner (RoadRunner). Kinda like DSL where I use Verizon cause they own the lines so that if I have a problem with the line, I wouldn't have to deal with 2 separate companies (ISP and dsl line provider). Is it better to get RoadRunner since they are the ones who own the cable lines? But Earthlink is cheaper - $42 as opposed to $45; no biggie but still cheaper.

Anyone tried both services???
 

JackMDS

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Road Runner $3 more 3 times the bandwidth more.

BTW: In NYC it is a very big mistake to go with a provider that does not own the infrastructure.
 

Ducati

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JackMDS, so you've had experience with both??

I know someone else who has RoadRunner and his bandwidth is only 450 kbps, while my DSL is around 350... I was hoping that Earthlink will be faster than 450 kbps since i've read other people getting over 1000 kbps.
 

JackMDS

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Well, I am afraid you are a Victim to the infamous bit Byte problem that is confusing the non Network savvy.

1 Byte (B) = 8bits (b).

In the price range that you mention you get the typical home user account.

The typical RR cable in NYC provides about 2-3 Mb/sec. (b=bit).

I.e. the down load, as would be reported by the I.E browser would be 250Kb/sec. (B=Byte) or more.

I should mention that the Internet Cable ?speed? to the individual account is only partially controlled by the ISP and depends on the load of you geographical node.

Standard DSL is around 1Mb/sec. (b=bit) Download of about 100Kb/sec (B=Byte).

The DSL speed is stable for each individual line.

There are also cooperate accounts that cost much more and provide more.

Check with the providers what you suppose to get, and it will be easy to make a decision.
 

sml

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And it all depends on your path to the machine you're trying to communicate with; my local Road Runner subsidiary apparently has poor knowledge of network infrastructure design as I routinely get 10-15kB/s between two RR systems in my city.

-sean
 

Ducati

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Originally posted by: JackMDS
Well, I am afraid you are a Victim to the infamous bit Byte problem that is confusing the non Network savvy.

1 Byte (B) = 8bits (b).

In the price range that you mention you get the typical home user account.

The typical RR cable in NYC provides about 2-3 Mb/sec. (b=bit).

I.e. the down load, as would be reported by the I.E browser would be 250Kb/sec. (B=Byte) or more.

I should mention that the Internet Cable ?speed? to the individual account is only partially controlled by the ISP and depends on the load of you geographical node.

Standard DSL is around 1Mb/sec. (b=bit) Download of about 100Kb/sec (B=Byte).

The DSL speed is stable for each individual line.

There are also cooperate accounts that cost much more and provide more.

Check with the providers what you suppose to get, and it will be easy to make a decision.

Actually, i'm not a non-network savvy.
You've made some mistakes in your assesment of bit and byte:
250kb/sec is 250 kilo BITS/sec, not BYTES. You didn't use a capital B.
1Mb/sec = 125kB/sec, not 100kb/sec. Didn't use a capital B and you provided the wrong number.

Also, DSL speed is not as stable as people think for each individual line because all lines are pooled at the CO. So if everyone in your CO is using their DSL lines, there will be as much congestion as if all users in an HFC were using their service. This whole thing about "dedicated" DSL lines is just a marketing gimmick....Even though cable users are more susceptible to traffic, in the end, everyone shares their internet connection. No one has a "dedicated" line to the internet backbone, unless you're the isp.

All I asked was if RoadRunner was better or worse than Earthlink. Thanks.
 

PliotronX

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If I were as lucky and lived in NY/NJ, I'd first look into getting OOL. If it is unavailable in your area, I would check if EL or RR offer 30 day trials and see how it goes with them. Then if it doesn't work out, it'll be a simple switch to the other. Good luck.
 

cipher00

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One word: RoadRunner. (Or is that two words?) It can't be any worse than Earthlink. My 2¢.
 

Antoneo

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Hi there, I am an Earthlink Cable subscriber in NYC and recommend earthlink. I get anywhere from 2.5 to 1.8 megabits/sec. Those are the highs and lows as of today and I have been using the service for little over a month now. The network is primarily RoadRunner and a RR guy will come to install the modem/wires. After that, its painless. Had only one outage now... hope this helps.
 

Zim Hosein

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Ducati, have a look at RCN as well, if you're doing a "bundle" w/ their cable TV service and broadband, the price is less expensive than what Time Warner quoted me, hope this helps
 

HJB417

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I use RR and I would swtich over to Earthlink but Earthlink blocks port 25 so you can't run a standard smtp server =(

other than that, they're the same exact service. They use the same exact service. Earthlink might have a bit extra though like unlimited dialup or something.
 
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