Easiest, most portable way to get started playing an instrument?

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Lifer
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I see (I think). I guess I should start out first with EDM-style stuff - my immediate issue is that I don't know how to construct music. I can obviously hear the difference between different chords but I have zero idea how to put it together into some kind of song. My brain can't really think in this manner yet, so I think trying to do it in real time with a guitar, with all the extra ergonomic and physical coordination issues on top of everything, might be too much for me to begin with.
I can play guitar (somewhat; I haven't played in years but could play some Nirvana, punk songs) but I'd have no idea how to write a song. I don't know which chords or notes go together (although I think G, C, Am, F do and they can sound good depending on which order you put them in). I dunno I think I'm just basically musically retarded.
 

nakedfrog

No Lifer
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I can play guitar (somewhat; I haven't played in years but could play some Nirvana, punk songs) but I'd have no idea how to write a song. I don't know which chords or notes go together (although I think G, C, Am, F do and they can sound good depending on which order you put them in). I dunno I think I'm just basically musically retarded.
You can get a lot of mileage out of a passing knowledge of the basic progression numbering, I ii iii IV V vi vii.
If it's in C, that will be C - Dm - Em - F - G - Am - Bmdim
In G, it would go G - Am - Bm - C - D - Em - Fmdim
And so on. There's approximately a billion I-IV-V songs out there, and there are other common formations.
 

Cappuccino

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Sorry for highjacking this thread, I am 44 and I ALWAYS wanted to play guitar. Like OP I never play any music and I torn my left ring finger, I can not move the tip section(distal phalanx is the name from google). Am I hopeless? I even bought a used acoustic a few years back it is right handed(left hand pressing the neck) before accident happened, Can I redo the sting to make it left hand? Guess that's the only way I can try to play? Oh, the steel sting it come with is stiff as f. Is there something softer I can use?
I don't quite understand your comment. Can you change your fingering position? Is that what you mean? Losing a finger is no big deal IMO because you can always adjust your fingering OBVIOUSLY its better to have a full set of fingers but missing a finger is 100% possible to play anything instrument. Maybe I'm just talkign rubbish because I dont play guitar but the sheet music is similar and the fingering is similar.
 

Carson Dyle

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I don't quite understand your comment. Can you change your fingering position? Is that what you mean? Losing a finger is no big deal IMO because you can always adjust your fingering OBVIOUSLY its better to have a full set of fingers but missing a finger is 100% possible to play anything instrument. Maybe I'm just talkign rubbish because I dont play guitar but the sheet music is similar and the fingering is similar.

 

Alpha One Seven

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I started with a guitar, there are bags you can put on your back if you want to carry it around hands free.
 

ImpulsE69

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Bagpipe, you should start with the bagpipe. You can get digital chokers that take up no space. It's like...Recorder ++


All these may seem in jest but they aren't really. You have to start somewhere. If you are musical you can make music with anything. Nothing says you have to play guitar as a starter instrument, because guitar is hard. Your requirement that it not take up much space and easy to travel with limits what you can do. Otherwise I'd be suggesting Pipe Organ.
 

Scarpozzi

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My dad bought me a guitar before I went to college. I played around on it for a while...learned some chords and strummed it a bit. It's been fun. Eventually, you learn some songs and play to entertain yourself if you're just a part-timer like me. I've also got a few electric guitars and a mandolin....

This past Christmas, I found a soprano Ukulele for $30 shipped by Luna. It showed up....cheap construction, but tune-able and not too shabby for sound. My dad has a Ukulele that probably cost him $150....much nicer wood construction and better tuners....sound is a little richer due to the construction...but not worth the difference if you're just learning. Coming from guitar, the Uke is easy to learn once you get the hang of it, but the strings are close together. Nylon strings are soft and don't hurt your fingers. I tended to do a lot of fingernail strumming instead of using a felt pick. Best part is that you can strum a Ukulele very quietly and it's not loud like a steel-string guitar.

I think it's probably the best of the portable instruments, but you may want to check them out in a music store first. See if you prefer a tenor Uke due to its bigger size (more room on the neck for learning)
 
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Is self-learning a good or bad idea? Or is it always best to get some sort of lesson to avoid frustration, developing bad habits, etc?

Generally speaking, better to get lessons.

You will almost certainly want help learning to read music.

If you don't want to learn to read music, you're pretty much limited to guitar. (Because of tabulature. I am not making a value judgement about guitar players here.)
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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Jun 19, 2004
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Keyboard and learn how to read music. There are two reasons for learning to read music. First, it enables you to play recognizable tunes someone else wrote. Second, it gives you the basics for writing your own tunes.
 

Cappuccino

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Keyboard and learn how to read music. There are two reasons for learning to read music. First, it enables you to play recognizable tunes someone else wrote. Second, it gives you the basics for writing your own tunes.

Memorise the TREBLE (right hand) AND CLEFF (left hand)

(TREBLE - LINES)
EVERY
GOOD
BOY
DESERVES
FAVOR

(TREBLE - SPACES)
F
A
C
E
(FACE)

CLEFF (LINES)
GOOD
BOY
DESERVE
FAVOR
ALWAYS

CLEFF (SPACES)
ALL
CHILDREN
ENJOY
GRAPES

Learning to read sheet music is like reading this comment. So if you can read music then you can pinpoint the notes on the Piano without counting the lines and spaces. Learning the lines and spaces should be the easiest part of your Piano journey. I skip the theory if you are just learning Piano for fun because you can guess the theory. Your an adult you don't need to know theory... you can learn theory in 1-2 years time.

OP what are you going to play?
 

Kaido

Elite Member & Kitchen Overlord
Feb 14, 2004
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What is the challenge of guitar? Is it the physical coordination? It seems like every one of my friends has played guitar before and some even own guitars, but when they actually try to play a song, 95% of them can't even get through an entire 15 seconds before messing up somewhere.

My recommendations for getting started with portable guitar playing:

1. Get a Jamstik+ portable guitar: (note: check RetailMeNot.com first)

https://jamstik.com

2. Get a lifetime membership to Next Level Guitar. Do one lesson a day. It will keep you busy for years:

http://nextlevelguitar.com

3. Get the audiobook for the Talent Code: (to gain a deeper understanding of how talent really works)

https://www.amazon.com/Talent-Code-Greatness-Grown-Summary/dp/B01990CKN6

4. Read this article on memorization: (to use for learning music)

http://www.johnplaceonline.com/study-smarter/how-to-memorize-anything/

Guitar is fun because strumming strings just has a magical quality about it. With a Jamtik+, you have a nice little portable unit that you can use to learn how to play a full-size guitar without the size & space investment, and you also don't have to be locked into just a ukulele. You have an enormous number of techniques to learn to keep you busy & a virtually lifetime supply of music out there to learn how to play, not to mention compose yourself.

The first thing I tell people is that there is a difference between playing and practicing. Jamming for fun is not practicing. Casually playing is not practicing. Practicing is where you sit down and study either new information or hone your existing skills. Even live bands practice relentlessly to reduce the number of mistakes they make live. The hard part isn't learning, it's injecting a time slot into your day as an "appointment" so that you're spending even just 10 minutes a day making progress with your musical education & skills. Basically it's so simple that it's hard - it's such an easy thing to do that people don't do it consistently. Instruments aren't hard to learn, and people who get into music usually end up picking up a bunch of them (piano, guitar, drums, synth, etc.) because it's a simple skill. It's that daily or weekly progress thing that is difficult. That's why I recommend Next Level Guitar - nice little bite-size videos to keep you moving along every day. Set an appointment with yourself, like right before bed or when you first wake up or after lunch, and do a lesson & then practice every day, or M/W/F, or whatever your schedule allows, but make it an actual appointment on your calendar that you have to keep so that you can keep yourself on the path of making progress on a regular basis.

The second thing I tell people is to make it convenient. Keep your instrument handy, save the login password to your online guitar lessons to your browser, make it so you can jump right in as needed, and also pick it up & goof off whenever you want, instead of shoving it away in a closet or whatever where it's not something you'll visually trip over every day. Out of sight = out of mind & in sight = easy to feel inspired because you're like, hey, guitar! Fun! Play!

The third thing I suggest is to pick a style or genre that inspires you & watch videos and find & listen to new music from it every day to keep you feeling motivated, whether it's speed metal or flamenco or acoustic pop or whatever. Especially with stuff like Youtube & Spotify & Soundcloud, there's just so much cool stuff out there to discover that it's crazy. Here's an old but good video that I like with fingerstyle:


Anyway, music is a pretty fulfilling thing. The trick is simply setting things up so that you stay in the flow. Learning music & instruments isn't hard at all, the secret is just keeping that momentum up every day so that you're always growing. Also, one of the best definitions I've heard of "talent" is that talent is the speed at which you can acquire a new skill. So if you're super talented, you can pick something up quick & pick it up young, which is amazing, but not really all that related to what you want to do. Some people are naturally more talented than others, meaning that they can pick up the techniques for learning the instrument faster & memorize the music quicker, but that doesn't have any correlation to what you want to do, because music is a very individual thing. It's like running a marathon - only one person can be the fastest in the race, and everyone else is just working on their PR's, their individual bests. Also, for a fun visualization on someone with a lot of talent, watch the video of this kid with his guitar...he's picked up the techniques & memorized the songs pretty quick, and obviously has the ability to visualize the music in his head & get into the flow pretty good:

 
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