Ebay seller backing down???

[imported_Baloo]

Originally posted by: pcslookout

If a item is defective it is the responsibility of the company or person selling the item to pay for return shipping.

In a fantasy world, yes, but in the real world, no, the buyer is responsible for return shipping.

 

[pcslookout]

Originally posted by: Baloo

Originally posted by: pcslookout

If a item is defective it is the responsibility of the company or person selling the item to pay for return shipping.

In a fantasy world, yes, but in the real world, no, the buyer is responsible for return shipping.

Wrong most places will pay for return shipping if the item is DOA or has a problem when you get it.

 

[hanoverphist]

Originally posted by: zeruty
maybe he was selling a broken item and then wussed out at the last minute?

if he refunded your money... cut your losses (which are none) and go find something else to buy

w3rd. at least he didnt send it busted. id say he was either honest enough to do the right thing or he chickened out on scamming you.

 

[splintitan]

thats what im thinking, and from what i understand the buyer pays shipping for returning... but find it hard to believe paypal can help since he is refunding me.
ill take some action and see how it goes.

...have to wait 10 days to take action ~4 more left.

 

[Blain]

Originally posted by: splintitan
thats what im thinking, and from what i understand the buyer pays shipping for returning... but find it hard to believe paypal can help since he is refunding me.
ill take some action and see how it goes.

Why can't you emotionally just let it go?

 

[alkemyst]

9 times out of 10 a last minute seller back out due to broken/damaged/lost goods is themselves avoiding a reserve auction/fees and then their item selling for too little. Also even with Buy it nows the seller may have targetted too low. I have had this happen ALOT...swooping in to score a deal only to have the seller flat out admit they want more for it now that they checked other auctions/had offers after I won.

 

[Ns1]

Originally posted by: splintitan
thats what im thinking, and from what i understand the buyer pays shipping for returning... but find it hard to believe paypal can help since he is refunding me.
ill take some action and see how it goes.

...have to wait 10 days to take action ~4 more left.

1. You bought it, nothing wrong with it. You want to return it AND the eBay seller's policy allows for such: you eat shipping BOTH ways

2. You bought it, something is wrong with it, and it was 1) the sellers fault and 2) not disclosed in the auction. Seller gives you return shipping + full refund including shipping

3. You bought it, seller emails you telling you that it's broken, you tell him to ship it to you anyway, then it arrives broken: you're shit out of luck

 

[splintitan]

it has rarely happened to me, 1 in 50 at most. people eventually comply but this guy has no feedback to defend.

sometimes items are hard to find, and when i win the auction (needless to say by staying up till 4am) i expect to get whats due.

 

[Jules]

Oh well.

 

[b2386]

There are other places online that sell penis pumps... My advice is to let it go and move on.

 

[splintitan]

...almost funny, im sure you know how hard it is to find used penis pumps.

 

[frostedflakes]

I've had this happen a few times and I just let it go. If the guy's an eBay newbie, he might not have known about reserve prices, or his reason could be legit and the player is defective. At worse I'd give him a neutral or negative, but going after the person and forcing them to ship seems kind of ruthless. Since he's a new user, a negative would screw him over good enough and probably teach him a lesson about backing out on auctions.

 

[splintitan]

hmm. i am usually flexible. but beyond people not sending the item or list a bad item, what i cant stand is when they dont bother to respond. communication is something i take seriously when doing any transaction.
if he contacted me beforehand, and consulted me about a defective item we can always come to an agreement. just refunding the money is kind of disrespectful.
may just be me but its just bad business ethics.

 

[Mermaidman]

Originally posted by: splintitan
hmm. i am usually flexible. but beyond people not sending the item or list a bad item, what i cant stand is when they dont bother to respond. communication is something i take seriously when doing any transaction.
if he contacted me beforehand, and consulted me about a defective item we can always come to an agreement. just refunding the money is kind of disrespectful.
may just be me but its just bad business ethics.

:roll:
"Take a penny; leave a penny." The world will be a better place.

 

[splintitan]

i recently had to return fake headphones, even lost money on shipping them back. but the seller was quick to respond so i didnt make a big deal about it.
if i hear back from this guy then we can go from there.

i recently have stopped using ebay, but it has really improved over time... still a pain though. i dont know what i would do without craigslist and forums.

 

[Blain]

Originally posted by: splintitan
hmm. i am usually flexible.

You're not really coming across as "flexible", you're coming across as bit "fixated".

Try helping someone else to get your mind off this ebay seller.
"Anger is an acid that can do more harm to the vessel in which it is stored than to anything on which it is poured."

 

[splintitan]

lol

 

[daveymark]

you can leave him a neg, but wait till may 19 - that's the date that sellers can't leave negs for buyers. otherwise expect a retaliatory neg if you do it before may 19.

 

[halik]

Err what are you asking exactly? If you got a refund, you should be happy...

That whole "seller is obligated to send an item" thing doesn't work in real life. All you have to do is say that you reserve the right to sell the item locally and you're SOL anyway.


From legal stand point of view, the notion of "bid is a contract" works in the form the perspective of the seller. If your bid (or offer) is accepted, then, assuming that all the other requirements of a bilateral contract are satisfied, you have to pay up.

On the other hand, all auctions are considered to be with reserve unless otherwise stated (see "Lim v The.Tv Corp. International"), so the seller has the right to reject all the bid in the end.

 

[halik]

Originally posted by: mugs
Tell him you look forward to seeing the item re-listed as broken, and you'll withhold your negative feedback until you have an opportunity to bid on the broken item.

He deserves negative feedback whether it's broken or not.

You must have an awesome feedback :roll:

 

[imported_Baloo]

Originally posted by: pcslookout

Originally posted by: Baloo

Originally posted by: pcslookout

If a item is defective it is the responsibility of the company or person selling the item to pay for return shipping.

In a fantasy world, yes, but in the real world, no, the buyer is responsible for return shipping.

Wrong most places will pay for return shipping if the item is DOA or has a problem when you get it.

I was responding to the notion that the Seller is responsible, not the pratices from retailers you have experience with, since you did not mention that. Legally, the buyer is responsible for return shipping, but that does not mean the seller can't pay it. However, your experience is unusual. I think you will find that few others can say the same as you regarding who has paid return shipping.