edit - racism may be around, but this was clearly a misunderstanding

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CraigRT

Lifer
Jun 16, 2000
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Originally posted by: TheEvil1
racism is still alive and well

No Sh!t. where the hell have you been??

I mean no offence by this but why made you think it was gone?

That's what I was thinking.
and it's never going to go away.
it's not a surprise.
 

KK

Lifer
Jan 2, 2001
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What is the meaning behind kiked? I think you are blowing this way out of proportion, get a back bone for christ's sake, and quit trying to play victim all the damn time. If this is a friend of yours, then why the hell would she say this to offend you. She may not have a friggin idea what the hell it really means. I have heard this before and would not hesitate to use it because I have no friggin idea what the meaning behind it is. Blowing this out of proportion makes you look like a Jesse Jackon, aka publicity whore. What do you do at this school? Are you a teacher?

KK
 

tcsenter

Lifer
Sep 7, 2001
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Hey, still, even though "kiped" is not a racial/ethnic slur, its sounds like one, and apparently these days, that's enough. Remember the "niggardly" incident? That guy was forced to resign for having a good vocabulary.

You can sue because you were "offended" these days, even if you were not a member of the racial/ethnic group being slurred, even if you weren't the one being slurred. No other reason than because your wittle feewings were hurt.

Sue sue money money!
 

Semper Fi

Golden Member
Dec 2, 1999
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Give dolph a break, he said that he was considering talking to her for clarification.
And I don't think it's too PC, people need to watch what they say. It would've of been "blown out of proportion" if he had went off without seeing if maybe he misunderstand.
To compare him to Jesse Jackson is ludicrous, JJ would've just assumed she said something racial and made a big stink of it in spite of the facts.

She may not have a friggin idea what the hell it really means

Then she is an IDIOT for using words that she doesn't friggin have any idea as to what they mean.
How is the other person supposed to understand what the speaker is saying IF the speaker doesn't know what the speaker is saying????
 

newbiepcuser

Diamond Member
Jan 1, 2001
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you don't know what it's like, you cannot understand how it feels to be the subject.

Dam, i thought these slanted eyes on mine can protect me from racism in America. Please you don't know whats it like. Can you imagine whats its like to be Native American, African American or Asian? I grew up in mostly Hispanic community, comments like "Yeah, your dad killed my dad in Vietnam" "Hey Nip, <poor imitation of Asian language>" "You sure you dont' want sweet and sour sauce".


I feel so insulted at company that makes Cheese Nips, I just can't let it go, those words burns.


You claim this person is your friend For you to even think this person would make such racist remark, you need to view your opinions on what friendship is.
 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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Originally posted by: dolph
i'll make this short:
i work at an elementary school. there was a christmas song show-thing this morning, with all the kids and the parents. i was standing in the back, when in between two of the classes a really cool teacher i'm friends with (all of them, really) came around to say hi to me. we were talking for a little bit when she pulled a few silver dollars out of her pocket and said, "look what i kiked." then, she immediately followed that by semi-repeating herself, saying "look what i confiscated." then she had to go to get her class ready to go on. she may have said something else, but i cannot think of anything else she would have said that would have sounded like "kiked," and still mean the same thing. i'm not going to bring it up with the principal, but i would like to talk to her about it, at least to clarify what she said. thoughts?

edit from the link adul posted, i now fully believe she said "kiped." i'm embarrassed to think she would have said "kiked," but now i know better and can laugh it off.

however, to all that accused me of being too "pc," i am *probably* safe in assuming that you are all white middle class males of christian descent (though whether or not you actually practice a religion now isn't relevant) therefore, you have been insulated for at least the past 50 years from being the target of any form of bigotry. you don't know what it's like, you cannot understand how it feels to be the subject. if she had actually said "kiked," the worst thing i could have done would be to let it go. words are not just words, they are opinions and feelings and in some cases, prejudices that if left unchecked can become worse, and passed down generation to generation. i'll grow a backbone when you grow a conscience.


i wouldnt be assuming anything.

First off you dont even know what she said. second unwad the your panties because they seem to be in a bunch.

stop playing the victim nobody here is going to feel sorry for you. i would be more worried about her convicating some kids money. theft should not be allowed even by a teacher.
 

SSP

Lifer
Oct 11, 1999
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however, to all that accused me of being too "pc," i am *probably* safe in assuming that you are all white middle class males of christian descent (though whether or not you actually practice a religion now isn't relevant) therefore, you have been insulated for at least the past 50 years from being the target of any form of bigotry. you don't know what it's like, you cannot understand how it feels to be the subject. if she had actually said "kiked," the worst thing i could have done would be to let it go. words are not just words, they are opinions and feelings and in some cases, prejudices that if left unchecked can become worse, and passed down generation to generation. i'll grow a backbone when you grow a conscience.

Generalize much?
 

gopunk

Lifer
Jul 7, 2001
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however, to all that accused me of being too "pc," i am *probably* safe in assuming that you are all white middle class males of christian descent (though whether or not you actually practice a religion now isn't relevant)

um yea, well 2/4 ain't bad, but i'm yellow and atheist. what are you?

you're too sensitive and it isn't because you're a "victim". puh-lease, you don't know what racism means if you consider this to be racism. racism is having people call you at 4AM screaming at you to "go back to your country". racism is being told to sit at the back of the bus because you're the wrong color. racism is not somebody using a term in common speech in a manner that was not intended to deride anyone.
 

SherEPunjab

Diamond Member
Oct 23, 2002
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Originally posted by: Skoorb
cool, I never knew the origin of that reference.
I never did either, but I figured it out in time. I hope i'm not shooting in the dark but it does make sense!

Skoorb, you are correct on that. Unfortunately, people think its A-Ok to say the word Gypped. Too bad not all minorities enjoy the luxury of having a strong lobby and power in our media.
 

HappyPuppy

Lifer
Apr 5, 2001
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Sounds to me like someone is extremely insecure and walks around looking for something to take offense to.

You don't have the slightest idea of what ricism or persecution are. Read some history.
 

Cyberian

Diamond Member
Jun 17, 2000
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Originally posted by: SherEPunjab
Originally posted by: Skoorb
cool, I never knew the origin of that reference.
I never did either, but I figured it out in time. I hope i'm not shooting in the dark but it does make sense!

Skoorb, you are correct on that. Unfortunately, people think its A-Ok to say the word Gypped. Too bad not all minorities enjoy the luxury of having a strong lobby and power in our media.
Perhaps you could explain the plight of other minorities.
 

Placer14

Platinum Member
Sep 17, 2001
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Originally posted by: dolph
i'll make this short:
i work at an elementary school. there was a christmas song show-thing this morning, with all the kids and the parents. i was standing in the back, when in between two of the classes a really cool teacher i'm friends with (all of them, really) came around to say hi to me. we were talking for a little bit when she pulled a few silver dollars out of her pocket and said, "look what i kiked." then, she immediately followed that by semi-repeating herself, saying "look what i confiscated." then she had to go to get her class ready to go on. she may have said something else, but i cannot think of anything else she would have said that would have sounded like "kiked," and still mean the same thing. i'm not going to bring it up with the principal, but i would like to talk to her about it, at least to clarify what she said. thoughts?

edit from the link adul posted, i now fully believe she said "kiped." i'm embarrassed to think she would have said "kiked," but now i know better and can laugh it off.

however, to all that accused me of being too "pc," i am *probably* safe in assuming that you are all white middle class males of christian descent (though whether or not you actually practice a religion now isn't relevant) therefore, you have been insulated for at least the past 50 years from being the target of any form of bigotry. you don't know what it's like, you cannot understand how it feels to be the subject. if she had actually said "kiked," the worst thing i could have done would be to let it go. words are not just words, they are opinions and feelings and in some cases, prejudices that if left unchecked can become worse, and passed down generation to generation. i'll grow a backbone when you grow a conscience.

*hands you a firesuit* Here, you forgot this.

Also, I'd like to hear what everyone's background is. I'm sure that's a false generalization. All assuming does is make an AS$ out of U and ME.

BTW, i'm of jewish heritage and would've have taken offence to even someone calling me a "beloved patriot" outright. I simply plead ignorance for them or have pity on them and move on. You can't have your life consumed by stupidity. Welcome to the 21st century.

And upon reading some other of the posts, everyone needs to stop feeling sorry for themselves and do their best to move on in the world EVERYONE lives in. Not everyone will be comfortable with everyone else, but just because someone else isn't civil, doesn't mean that gives you a right to follow suit. Take it all with a grain of salt.
 

SherEPunjab

Diamond Member
Oct 23, 2002
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Originally posted by: Cyberian
Originally posted by: SherEPunjab
Originally posted by: Skoorb
cool, I never knew the origin of that reference.
I never did either, but I figured it out in time. I hope i'm not shooting in the dark but it does make sense!

Skoorb, you are correct on that. Unfortunately, people think its A-Ok to say the word Gypped. Too bad not all minorities enjoy the luxury of having a strong lobby and power in our media.
Perhaps you could explain the plight of other minorities.

Uhh... do i really need to?

Gypsies have been enslaved for hundreds of years in Europe. Today, they are still treated as second class citizens in most european countries.

It is clear that blacks are still discriminated in this country. There is not a single race of people that I know that do not make black jokes. I know they still get looked upon with suspicion, heck, dark skinned people in general get that treatment.

Homosexuals are openly discriminated against, even by some ATOT members. ITs okay though, they're just gay.

All three of these groups lack real political/media power.
 

BaliBabyDoc

Lifer
Jan 20, 2001
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think the issue is: Why is the teacher stealing money from elementary school students?

Do you have any idea how little schoolteachers are paid?! She's collecting her mandatory 18% for parties greater than 6.

dolph, forget these insensitive weald minds at ATOT. Any person involved in teaching young children that lacks the ability to monitor even the most minor insult will be awash in bruised pre-pubescents. I've used all kinds of racial slurs in my lifetime but only with people I love. In such context I guess they are terms of endearment. If this 'friend' used potentially offensive language within ear-shot of a child who might repeat it without context then you are not being overly sensitive.

Sometimes a joke is just a joke. And sometimes people use humor to put a dress on a pig.

PS Now beat down your cohort and give that kid back his money.
 

SSP

Lifer
Oct 11, 1999
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Originally posted by: gopunk
however, to all that accused me of being too "pc," i am *probably* safe in assuming that you are all white middle class males of christian descent (though whether or not you actually practice a religion now isn't relevant)

um yea, well 2/4 ain't bad, but i'm yellow and atheist. what are you?

you're too sensitive and it isn't because you're a "victim". puh-lease, you don't know what racism means if you consider this to be racism. racism is having people call you at 4AM screaming at you to "go back to your country". racism is being told to sit at the back of the bus because you're the wrong color. racism is not somebody using a term in common speech in a manner that was not intended to deride anyone.

Very nicely put.
 

datalink7

Lifer
Jan 23, 2001
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All three of these groups lack real political/media power.

Are you serious??? Gypsies maybe... but you are saying that Blacks and Homosexuals lack political/media power? Particularly MEDIA power, I think you are very wrong here.
 

Moonbeam

Elite Member
Nov 24, 1999
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I can't wait for the day, after hundreds of thousands of racial apologists get their heads blown off and the anti PC community starts chanting, geez guys, they're just a bunch of dead racists, don't get your panties in a wad over it.
 

Cyberian

Diamond Member
Jun 17, 2000
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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
I can't wait for the day, after hundreds of thousands of racial apologists get their heads blown off and the anti PC community starts chanting, geez guys, they're just a bunch of dead racists, don't get your panties in a wad over it.
I am really slow, and I ride the short bus, so could you rephrase that last rant for me?

 

jjones

Lifer
Oct 9, 2001
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Wow, I can't believe so many of you youngsters have never heard these words before and don't know their origins. I feel old.

BTW, using the term kiped was frequent in my youth as was the word gypped. What about "hock a loogie"? Any of you guys familiar with that one?
 

bigrash

Lifer
Feb 20, 2001
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I learned a new word too.

man, I should have kiked my friend when i had the chance
 
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