Edmunds Comparison Test: Hyundai Sonata Takes on the Accord and Camry

[rh71]

someone point me to the thread(s) that started this "I'd rock with ____" fad ?

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: rh71
someone point me to the thread(s) that started this "I'd rock with ____" fad ?

I don't know. Would you prefer we brought back "Is suck?"

 

[jaedaliu]

the comparison's lame. you can buy a new v6 camry for the price they were quoted by toyota for a 4 cyllinder. Since when does anyone buy a car at MSRP?

It's awefully coincidental that the price range was exactly at the top level sonata.

oh well, i'm just a toyota fan boy despite driving a maxima.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: jaedaliu
the comparison's lame. you can buy a new v6 camry for the price they were quoted by toyota for a 4 cyllinder. Since when does anyone buy a car at MSRP?

It's awefully coincidental that the price range was exactly at the top level sonata.

oh well, i'm just a toyota fan boy despite driving a maxima.

Who the hell pays MSRP for a Hyundai? You could then easily then say that you could a pretty much loaded Sonata for around the same price as quoted for the LX they tested.

 

[jaedaliu]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: jaedaliu
the comparison's lame. you can buy a new v6 camry for the price they were quoted by toyota for a 4 cyllinder. Since when does anyone buy a car at MSRP?

It's awefully coincidental that the price range was exactly at the top level sonata.

oh well, i'm just a toyota fan boy despite driving a maxima.

Who the hell pays MSRP for a Hyundai? You could then easily then say that you could a pretty much loaded Sonata for around the same price as quoted for the LX they tested.

yes, they could have bought a fully loaded sonata for the LX quote. and they DID. according to edmunds, the LX is the top of the line model and there's just a $1500 sunroof package that you can add to it.

my point was the awefully coincidental part, the money they decided to spend matched the price of the top sonata exactly. I disagree with the presentation that the sonata beats the accord and camry. That test hasn't been done yet.

I'll agree they say that the sonata is better at this price point, but I feel it's wrong to say it beats the accord and camry without comparing equivalently equipped vehicles.

 

[Aharami]

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
call me crazy but it looks a little like the Ford Five Hundred to me.

you are crazy

 

[gooch]

I have had my 2006 Sonata for 2 months now. I was shopping around for a reliable mid-sized car for the family and it just so happens that these were rolled off the truck the weekend before I started shopping. I love the car! Very solidly built, and is probably the quietest car I have ever owned (well I got the 4 banger to save on gas, which is a little on the noisy side).

I have had absolutely no problems with the car, with the exception of getting the windshield replaced because of a damned rock.

 

[gregshin]

GO KOREA!!!

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: jaedaliu

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: jaedaliu
the comparison's lame. you can buy a new v6 camry for the price they were quoted by toyota for a 4 cyllinder. Since when does anyone buy a car at MSRP?

It's awefully coincidental that the price range was exactly at the top level sonata.

oh well, i'm just a toyota fan boy despite driving a maxima.

Who the hell pays MSRP for a Hyundai? You could then easily then say that you could a pretty much loaded Sonata for around the same price as quoted for the LX they tested.

yes, they could have bought a fully loaded sonata for the LX quote. and they DID. according to edmunds, the LX is the top of the line model and there's just a $1500 sunroof package that you can add to it.

my point was the awefully coincidental part, the money they decided to spend matched the price of the top sonata exactly. I disagree with the presentation that the sonata beats the accord and camry. That test hasn't been done yet.

I'll agree they say that the sonata is better at this price point, but I feel it's wrong to say it beats the accord and camry without comparing equivalently equipped vehicles.

Top of the line Sonata is the LX (leather, 17" wheels, 8-way power drivers seat, MP3 CD, etc.). I was wrong, Edmunds tested the GLS V6, not the LX.

An LX with the only option (sunroof and audio) has an MSRP of $24,895. Ditch the sunroof/audio package and you're looking at an MSRP $23,495.

So as I said again, if you want to talk about getting a Camry V6 for under MSRP, you can get a fully loaded Sonata V6 LX for around the same price under MSRP.

 

[Toasthead]

good jorb hyundai...keep those japanese makers on their feet

 

[CChaos]

:thumbsup: Hyundai

As far as the cost issue is concerned, there's really nothing to discuss. When comparing similarly equipped cars the Hyundai will come in cheaper than the Honda/Toyota every time.

 

[PingSpike]

Their warentee is putting their money where their mouth is on the reliability front, so they have me looking at them seriously. I'm seriously considering a hyundai for my next car. I'll have to see some crash test ratings first though.

 

[KDOG]

Man, some people just cannot accept that Hyundai finally makes a really good car.

Someone also stated that the Hyundai warranty is void unless you go to the dealer evey 3,000 mi. like clockwork to get it serviced. Thats absolute BS. I have a 2000 Elantra and I NEVER took it to the dealer, and about 6 months ago the power window mechanism on the drivers side crapped out and they fixed it no questions asked, no charge. And they even knew that I had a K&N air filter, Bosch platinum Plus 4 spark plugs, and used synthetic oil. The warranty on Hyundai's is great.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: KDOG
Man, some people just cannot accept that Hyundai finally makes a really good car.

Someone also stated that the Hyundai warranty is void unless you go to the dealer evey 3,000 mi. like clockwork to get it serviced. Thats absolute BS. I have a 2000 Elantra and I NEVER took it to the dealer, and about 6 months ago the power window mechanism on the drivers side crapped out and they fixed it no questions asked, no charge. And they even knew that I had a K&N air filter, Bosch platinum Plus 4 spark plugs, and used synthetic oil. The warranty on Hyundai's is great.

You mean they didn't ask for your engine maintenance records to warranty a power window mechanism??? :shocked::roll:

 

[frankie38]

It was only a matter of time before the koreans would figure out how to build a nice car. I wonder when the geniuses in Detroit will figure it out.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: KDOG
Man, some people just cannot accept that Hyundai finally makes a really good car.

Someone also stated that the Hyundai warranty is void unless you go to the dealer evey 3,000 mi. like clockwork to get it serviced. Thats absolute BS. I have a 2000 Elantra and I NEVER took it to the dealer, and about 6 months ago the power window mechanism on the drivers side crapped out and they fixed it no questions asked, no charge. And they even knew that I had a K&N air filter, Bosch platinum Plus 4 spark plugs, and used synthetic oil. The warranty on Hyundai's is great.

You mean they didn't ask for your engine maintenance records to warranty a power window mechanism??? :shocked::roll:

LOL :laugh:

 

[Linux23]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: KDOG
Man, some people just cannot accept that Hyundai finally makes a really good car.

Someone also stated that the Hyundai warranty is void unless you go to the dealer evey 3,000 mi. like clockwork to get it serviced. Thats absolute BS. I have a 2000 Elantra and I NEVER took it to the dealer, and about 6 months ago the power window mechanism on the drivers side crapped out and they fixed it no questions asked, no charge. And they even knew that I had a K&N air filter, Bosch platinum Plus 4 spark plugs, and used synthetic oil. The warranty on Hyundai's is great.

You mean they didn't ask for your engine maintenance records to warranty a power window mechanism??? :shocked::roll:

AHAHAHA.

 

[Linux23]

Originally posted by: frankie38
It was only a matter of time before the koreans would figure out how to build a nice car. I wonder when the geniuses in Detroit will figure it out.

i'm hoping US carmakers can come out with a Japanese and Korean car killer, but i'm not holding my breath.

 

[frankie38]

Originally posted by: Linux23
[i'm hoping US carmakers can come out with a Japanese and Korean car killer, but i'm not holding my breath.

i think we have good engineers,desgners,etc. what are we doing wrong? there is nothing detroit makes that i would buy.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: frankie38

Originally posted by: Linux23
[i'm hoping US carmakers can come out with a Japanese and Korean car killer, but i'm not holding my breath.

i think we have good engineers,desgners,etc. what are we doing wrong? there is nothing detroit makes that i would buy.

Mustang
GTO
C6 Corvette
Magnum/Magnum SRT-8
300C/300C SRT-8
Charger SRT-8

My short list

 

[redgtxdi]

EXACTLY!!! If you'll bare with my babble for a minute...........

Detroit just doesn't make "import-feel" cars. I dunno why, they just don't. On top of that, the quality control just still isn't there.........(i.e. the powerbands of the engines and my personal pet peeve.........the way an American automobile shifts (auto trans, of course).

Get into a Camry and you can hardly tell when the sucker shifts!! When you want to accelerate or decelerate, simply lower or raise your foot & the car shifts symphonicly!! BEAUTIFUL!!!! Why can't Detroit's cars do that??

Some people like BMW, Mercedes, etc., but to be honest, I'd take their Japanese counterparts any day. They just do everything with a little more refinement. I rode in a '05 Corvette convertible a few days ago and while it was impressive, it just isn't refined the way a Japanese version of that same car would be. Shifting was just "ok". Clunk & thunk were nowhere NEAR a Japanese car.

My concern is this...............

Korea, China, Taiwan, Malaysia are all coming on strong. We like the lower prices, but watch out...........we may end up not doing a damn thing over here in the U.S. We'll simply be consumer-ville of the world and then when the money runs out 'cuz service jobs can all be handled by computers.....................what then??????

I think our only saving grace is that JAPAN will be in the same boat we are if people start buying Korean/Chinese/etc. cars anymore. At least we can cry together??????

 

[boyRacer]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: frankie38

Originally posted by: Linux23
[i'm hoping US carmakers can come out with a Japanese and Korean car killer, but i'm not holding my breath.

i think we have good engineers,desgners,etc. what are we doing wrong? there is nothing detroit makes that i would buy.

Mustang
GTO
C6 Corvette
Magnum/Magnum SRT-8
300C/300C SRT-8
Charger SRT-8

My short list

Those are all sporty cars

What about cars that normal people drive

 

[frankie38]

Originally posted by: NFS4
[GTO
My short list

I believe the GTO is from Australia.


Lutz is also responsible for the current Pontiac GTO, which, he hopes, will bring pizzazz back to the brand. To do so, he has imported from GM's Australian subsidiary a slightly massaged Holden Monaro Coupe and upped the car's V-8 output to 350hp. When Lutz announced the rebirth of the GTO at the 2002 New York International Show, he glowingly described the Monaro as "the most sought-after, high-profile car on Australian roads right now."

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: bR

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: frankie38

Originally posted by: Linux23
[i'm hoping US carmakers can come out with a Japanese and Korean car killer, but i'm not holding my breath.

i think we have good engineers,desgners,etc. what are we doing wrong? there is nothing detroit makes that i would buy.

Mustang
GTO
C6 Corvette
Magnum/Magnum SRT-8
300C/300C SRT-8
Charger SRT-8

My short list

Those are all sporty cars

What about cars that normal people drive

Not on my list, and they obviously aren't on most Americans' lists either as domestics "normal" sedans are more likely to end up in rental fleets than in actual consumers' driveways

 

[deftron]

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