No, it's a moral decline of society. You used to be able to leave your house and car unlocked and reasonably expect people wouldn't bother you or your items because they were honest. Now, it's the opposite, you have to assume they are dishonest.
I once loaned a friend my car for about a month.
With your logic, had he decided to sell my car instead of returning it to me then it would have been my own fault for having not secured it in some manner that would have made it neigh impossible for my friend to steal it from me.
Ah, now the backpedaling starts I see.Yeah right because my posts totally relate to, cars, guns, drugs, segragation, terroists and the talliban. Whatever you say crazy one.
What boggles my mind is that they actually went to jail, where they'll surely be learning how to sell stuff that's far more profitable and infinitely more destructive to the community. How about you be a responsible company, digitally mark the chips you send out, buy some of the ebay items yourself for tracking purposes and stop sending chips to companies who don't care about your policy? I don't see how creating convicts out of them is helpful to anyone.
What boggles my mind is that they actually went to jail, where they'll surely be learning how to sell stuff that's far more profitable and infinitely more destructive to the community. How about you be a responsible company, digitally mark the chips you send out, buy some of the ebay items yourself for tracking purposes and stop sending chips to companies who don't care about your policy? I don't see how creating convicts out of them is helpful to anyone.
wow there is a 10 core sandy bridge xeon ES on ebay now for 1600 and those chips sell for 5000 each from intel.
The guy has 8 for sale and those 8 chips alone are worth 40,000 dollars
Get over yourself. It's like you putting a gun in my hand and expecting me not to blow your brains out, 50/50 chance no? QUOTE]
California Penal Code Section 485:
One who finds lost property under circumstances which give him knowledge of or means of inquiry as to the true owner, and who appropriates such property to his own use, or to the use of another person not entitled thereto, without first making reasonable and just efforts to find the owner and to restore the property to him, is guilty of theft.
YMMV of course, but generally if you find it and know or might know where it came from, it's not yours. If you don't know where it came from, many places require you to turn it in to the authorities, who will hold it until such time that it's determined to be abandoned and you get to claim it.
People do dumb stuff, it blows my mind. Like the US Senator (salary is like $200k) who ended up going to jail for 10yrs because he accepted a $50k bribe.
Regardless the ethics involved, how was the risk of losing $2m in compensation plus your freedom ever worth the reward of nabbing an extra $50k one-time payout?
Does not compute.
Try quoting the penal code of a non-crazy place like Florida, North Dakota, etc.
I agree, however, that if one of us found an ES in our backyard that we would reasonably be expected to know that it belonged to intel and that we shouldn't sell in fleabay. Of course, if you just sold one ES chip one time then intel probably wouldn't bug you about it. Sell $82k worth of them, however...
Don't be so sure about that.
wow there is a 10 core sandy bridge xeon ES on ebay now for 1600 and those chips sell for 5000 each from intel.
The guy has 8 for sale and those 8 chips alone are worth 40,000 dollars
Would not surprise me at all if Intel and/or the feds were letting the ES's "walk" to find out all they can about the illegal supply chain before pulling it all down.
Law enforcement is always about more than meets the eye. Don't be naive.
Very good point. There is no fool-proof way to sell stolen goods. Even if you sanded-off all available marking on the ES's, sold them to a distributer, and didn't actually sell them yourself, you still could get ratted-out if someone down the chain gets busted and fesses-up about how they got them.
Just because they are for sale, does not mean that no one cares they are available.
Sorry, I think people who say this are misremembering the past. I asked my grandmother about this the other day and she people have always been shit, and she would know (worked in corrections for most of her life).
Sort of like the idealized version of reality that you see in 50s sitcoms.
After 10 years don't come to me asking for your es cpu back. I highly doubt i'll have it (or even be able to find it).
I wonder what condition they would expect the cpu to be in after 10 years.
Don't be so sure about that.
i'm just happy that i've never even seen an es chip.