Yeah, wednesday morning I woke up to find out that my cable company had a fiber cut on their network.
Totally Cloud-based OS will not happen until ISP service is on par with the waterworks. I have had 1 day without water in the 15 years I have been in this house. Can't say the same for internet service.
As JFAMD said i doubt Microsoft would go cloud with Windows 8 considering the Internet infrastructure not only of the united states but also the majority of the 2nd and 3rd world countries.
isnt cloud computeing abit off topic?
Id prefer walking around with my own hardware/software/data, instead of just walking around with some tablet touch screen, and have the hardware/software/data on some server. Like mentioned above, what happends when connection speed is bad? or down? your tablet just stops working? Imagine things go this way, cyberwarfare will really kick off... we might see x company hire y, to do attacks on z, so they lose man hours ect ect.
Another thing about it, it poses a security risk, if everything is in the airwaves, someone could listen in, corporate espionage ect.
Id be kinda miffed if everything went that way, and eventually all we have of our own is our screen/keyboard/mouse.
To me cloud computeing is just one of those smart buzzwords... maybe its a way for corperate companys to cut down costs a tiny bit on desktops/laptop costs.... nothing that really intrests me.
Oh, on the coroporate campus it would be called VDI, take a look at that.
No. No one is really that excited about the "cloud" that non-cloud users would be relegated to Windows 7 Starter in 2012 and beyond.How about this scenario,
Google: ChromeOS for Cloud, Android for non-Cloud
MS: Windows 8/Windows Next for Cloud, Windows 7 for non-Cloud.
So in this respect we would probably see Windows 7 starter vs some form of Android Tablet/Desktop OS for the 2nd and 3rd world countries.
Like mentioned above, what happends when connection speed is bad? or down? your tablet just stops working?
Id prefer walking around with my own hardware/software/data, instead of just walking around with some tablet touch screen, and have the hardware/software/data on some server.
Imagine things go this way, cyberwarfare will really kick off... we might see x company hire y, to do attacks on z, so they lose man hours ect ect.
Another thing about it, it poses a security risk, if everything is in the airwaves, someone could listen in, corporate espionage ect.
Id be kinda miffed if everything went that way, and eventually all we have of our own is our screen/keyboard/mouse.
To me cloud computeing is just one of those smart buzzwords... maybe its a way for corperate companys to cut down costs a tiny bit on desktops/laptop costs.... nothing that really intrests me.
isnt cloud computeing abit off topic?
Until the Atom Z600 series, the only Intel CPUs to power gate were the Nehalem/Westmere derived chips. In Moorestown, everything is both power and clock gated.
This isnt the same 45nm process used in other Intel CPUs, instead its a special low power version that trades 6 - 8% performance for a 60% reduction in leakage. The tradeoff makes sense since the bulk of these chips will run at or below 1.5GHz. And by the way, its now called the Atom Z600 series.
Totally Cloud-based OS will not happen until ISP service is on par with the waterworks. I have had 1 day without water in the 15 years I have been in this house. Can't say the same for internet service.
Bingo! Though, within a corporate campus, working within a cloud should fair better. The problem is that the large companies that would be ideal target for cloud computing are multi-state and multi-national - though they do have the leverage to get high quality SLAs.
So I'd imagine 16 of these cores on a SOC would use a good deal less power than the current Pineviews.
With that being said,
1. I am wondering if Intel would be inclined to build such a server chip if they felt ARM was becoming a big enough of a threat? (The EE Times article mentions two criteria for MS to port: 2:1 performance per watt improvement or a 2:1 performance per dollar improvement).
2. If such a Atom z600 server SOC (or maybe even a future Saltwell Atom core version) were created, how would ARM respond? Maybe a newer ARM core with even higher IPC than Cortex A15? built on even lower leakage silicon?
I'm somewhat skeptical of how the Z600 is doing. It's been over half a year since the AT article and very little information has come out about the Z600 yet. Furthermore, there was nothing about it at CES to my recollection. If there was, it was drown out by the sheer number of Tegra 2 phones and tablets that were announced. Did it run into a manufacturing delay?
Isn't intel already halfway there with their failed graphics card?
It was essentially 48 atoms with dedicated memory.
Just seems like it got a massive amount of hype for something over a year away. Maybe it was just because Intel didn't have any products in that segment and therefor nothing to lose by releasing information early.
Aava Mobile Medfield MeeGo/Android phone confirmed
By Chris Davies on Thu Feb 3rd, 2011 Discuss [1]
Intel has been showing off Medfield-based MeeGo prototypes in the past weeks, and soon Aava Mobile will be getting into the act with its second-generation Aava Core design which the company has confirmed to SlashGear is ready to be rolled out at MWC 2011 this month. According to Aava, the 8.9mm-thick touchscreen smartphone in fact runs either Android or MeeGo.
While the company has working units, they wont be selling the Aava Core direct to consumers. Instead, like the first model which we played with all the way back at MWC 2010, when Aava had both Android and Moblin versions on show it will be used as a developer device, as well as to promote the companys integrated ACPU and modem platform to OEM/ODMs.
The Intel Atom Medfield based chipset theyve put together is also suited to tablets, so Aava tells us we shouldnt get too caught up in just the smartphone shell its currently inside. Full specs are yet to be confirmed.
Here is an update I found.
http://www.slashgear.com/aava-mobile-medfield-meegoandroid-phone-confirmed-03130673/
No. No one is really that excited about the "cloud" that non-cloud users would be relegated to Windows 7 Starter in 2012 and beyond.
Microsoft has only one policy, support the most popular hardware platforms that have a growth path. No exceptions.
There is already an ARM version of IE6, I have it on my netbook. ($99 CVS Sylvania netbook)ARM chips can easily handle that. Unless it requires IE6. I can't see anyone wanting to port that abomination to a new architecture.
In the last year the number of ARM development boards has soared. What you can get now for $200 would have cost thousands just two years ago.
http://www.quickembed.com/Tools/Shop/ARM/200908/43.html
Just wondering, How is that different than something like this?
If you wanted to develop a new product that used ARM you would buy a board that has the same processor you want to use and the various on board features that had most of what you will need in the finished product. You don't h ave to have all the features you will need on the board but it is sometimes easier. Any feature you are missing like the radio or GPS for a phone you can add as a module onto the board that you buy.I am not a programmer. Just wondering how these devices are used by developers as tools?
Floating point exist as a module right now as fast as any of the current application need, it is just there hasn't been really any demand for FPU performance in ARM applications. Most of the ARM chips have a DSP core to handle task that are normally used for FPU like signal processing or video decoding.I am particularly interested to see what the next ARM products using Cortex A15 will bring? It looks like that chip will be a significant improvement (floating point in particular) and from what I gather allow a wider range of programs to be used.