Effective cancer cure is found, except you can't have it because of the FDA fraud

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PowerEngineer

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I am not a troll but just someone who has opinions that are far more different from others and people will disagree with me.

You seem to think that having "opinions that are far more different from others" is some sort of good thing in and of itself. How important is it to you that your "opinions" reflect what actually is? What kind of evidence would it take for you to adopt the more widely held opinion that the FDA (and government agencies in general) are well intentioned?

(Seems like adlep owes us an update on this "breakthrough" too )
 
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DrPizza

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The government does many evil things, they lied about the Gulf of Tonkin incident to go into Vietnam. The point is that the FDA is government controlled and they are paid off by big business to shut down the competition. The drug cancer industry would lose money so obviously they would shut down the threat.

I am not a troll but just someone who has opinions that are far more different from others and people will disagree with me.

Yet again, I find it difficult to determine if you are trolling, or are a combination of stupid and stubborn. Read through this thread - there is more than enough abundant information to see that the point of view that you're expressing is obviously incorrect.
 

Kantastic

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Yet again, I find it difficult to determine if you are trolling, or are a combination of stupid and stubborn. Read through this thread - there is more than enough abundant information to see that the point of view that you're expressing is obviously incorrect.

People thought Christianity was real for hundreds of years because of the abundant information provided by the church.
 

DCal430

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Drug companies do not like cures, they like life long treatments. This is why they could be against something like this.

If you have a patient that will need chemo drugs for the rest of their life, which could be 10 to 20 more years vs one that only needs a drug for a few months, you would prefer the life long drug. Lots more money.

I have a co worker with a slow incurable cancer, who will require chemo for the rest of their life. There is no way they would develop a cure for her, because they are now making money off her until she dies.
 

DCal430

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Drug companies are against vaccines and cures for HIV for the same reason. They want to make money off people who need their drugs for life. Not one time cures that make little long term profit.
 

Capt Caveman

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Drug companies are against vaccines and cures for HIV for the same reason. They want to make money off people who need their drugs for life. Not one time cures that make little long term profit.

Yep, b/c there have been no cures developed ever. And no one would want to make billions and billions of dollars. If you knew the failure rate for drugs, a company would rather fail and go bankrupt than make billions based on this ignorance.
 
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RapidSnail

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Drug companies are against vaccines and cures for HIV for the same reason. They want to make money off people who need their drugs for life. Not one time cures that make little long term profit.

Can you provide examples of all of these cures that were sequestered by the government?
 

DCal430

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Yep, b/c there have been no cures developed ever. And no one would want to make billions and billions of dollars. If you knew the failure rate for drugs, a company would rather fail and go bankrupt than make billions based on this ignorance.

They are making billions more with these endless treatments, a cure would cost them billions.

FYI drug companies WANT more and more people to be infected with HIV, the more HIV infected people their are the happier these drug companies are. They love sick people, sick people make them lots of money.
 

Capt Caveman

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They are making billions more with these endless treatments, a cure would cost them billions.

FYI drug companies WANT more and more people to be infected with HIV, the more HIV infected people their are the happier these drug companies are. They love sick people, sick people make them lots of money.

LOL. And no they aren't. Come to my company(Oncology Pharmaceutical) and ask the scientist and researches who have lost love ones if they don't want to find a cure.

This is the problem with folks like you. Talking out of your ass.
 

bradley

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Peter Rost has some interesting tales to tell concerning corruption in the pharmaceutical industry. He is the former Pfizer Marketing Vice Pres. Not the nicest or kindest guy in the world, but hard to knock his credibility.

http://peterrost.blogspot.com/
 

Dr. Zaus

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This reminds me of something I was just thinking about yesterday. Burzynski has published several trials claiming effectiveness for antineoplastons, although reviewers have criticized these trials as being "of a rather unclear design," and the National Cancer Institute reports that no randomized, controlled trials showing the effectiveness of antineoplastons have been published in peer-reviewed scientific journals. Independent researchers have failed to reproduce the benefits reported by Burzynski. A 1999 trial of antineoplastons for malignant glioma found no evidence of tumor responses or efficacy, and all nine patients died before the study closed, all but one death being due to tumor progression.

Yea.. that's what I was thinking...
 

DCal430

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LOL. And no they aren't. Come to my company(Oncology Pharmaceutical) and ask the scientist and researches who have lost love ones if they don't want to find a cure.

This is the problem with folks like you. Talking out of your ass.

Some scientist might want to find a cure, but the executives who control everything don't, they want the opposite more sick people, would be surprised if secretly some HIV drugs are designed with a hidden function to make HIV spread more easily. Or cancer drugs that make sure some people have relapses or never experience full remission. These companies want people sick
 

DCal430

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Also to be clear I am NOT saying these things are FACTUALLY TRUE, only that it is a possibility.
 

PowerEngineer

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Drug companies do not like cures, they like life long treatments. This is why they could be against something like this.

If you have a patient that will need chemo drugs for the rest of their life, which could be 10 to 20 more years vs one that only needs a drug for a few months, you would prefer the life long drug. Lots more money.

I have a co worker with a slow incurable cancer, who will require chemo for the rest of their life. There is no way they would develop a cure for her, because they are now making money off her until she dies.

Drug companies are against vaccines and cures for HIV for the same reason. They want to make money off people who need their drugs for life. Not one time cures that make little long term profit.

They are making billions more with these endless treatments, a cure would cost them billions.

FYI drug companies WANT more and more people to be infected with HIV, the more HIV infected people their are the happier these drug companies are. They love sick people, sick people make them lots of money.

Some scientist might want to find a cure, but the executives who control everything don't, they want the opposite more sick people, would be surprised if secretly some HIV drugs are designed with a hidden function to make HIV spread more easily. Or cancer drugs that make sure some people have relapses or never experience full remission. These companies want people sick

Also to be clear I am NOT saying these things are FACTUALLY TRUE, only that it is a possibility.

Everyone reading your earlier statements had to believe that you were asserting them to be "FACTUALLY TRUE". Your last statement was therefore certainly needed. In fact, I suggest you put it in your signature line in order to avoid future misunderstandings about the contents of your posts. ()
 

CrackRabbit

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Yet again, I find it difficult to determine if you are trolling, or are a combination of stupid and stubborn. Read through this thread - there is more than enough abundant information to see that the point of view that you're expressing is obviously incorrect.

Go read his posts in P&N, he is a very very stupid troll.
 

fstime

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I love how everyone on this forum labels you as a lunatic if you even mention a "conspiracy theory" as if the govt is a noble and trusting organization.

The same people who are destroying this country in front of our eyes. They are all paid off, I would never doubt them doing something shady like this, proof or no proof.

The govt is just the hand of the corporations and that includes drug corporations. And incase you didn't know, corporations exist solely to make money. They are considered "people" yet if you analyze their behavior as you would with a real person, they would be labeled as a sociopaths because these people have no liability and nothing to fear other than a slap on the wrist fee for breaking the rules.
 
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Capt Caveman

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I love how everyone on this forum labels you as a lunatic if you even mention a "conspiracy theory" as if the govt is a noble and trusting organization.

The same people who are destroying this country in front of our eyes. They are all paid off, I would never doubt them doing something shady like this, proof or no proof.

The govt is just the hand of the corporations and that includes drug corporations. And incase you didn't know, corporations exist solely to make money. They are considered "people" yet if you analyze their behavior as you would with a real person, they would be labeled as a sociopaths because these people have no liability and nothing to fear other than a slap on the wrist fee for breaking the rules.

What about non-profits and academia? What about outside the US?
 

Bignate603

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Also to be clear I am NOT saying these things are FACTUALLY TRUE, only that it is a possibility.

LOL, covering all your bases, aren't you?

Anyways, your previous accusations assume that pharmaceutical companies and the government health agencies around the world are all coordinating their actions to maximize profits. Here's why your accusations don't work...

Company A produces a very profitable treatment for a cancer. It keeps the person alive but does not cure them.

Company B figures out a cure for the same cancer. They release it and instantly capture 100% of the market. Who wants a treatment when they can have the cure? They'll pay a ton more for it, too!

Let's say the FDA blocks company B from releasing the drug. Company B would then go to another country, go through that government's process, and release the drug there. A cure for a common type of cancer would be massive news and people would be screaming for it in the US. Either it would be released here or people would start flying to the other country for treatment.

Either way, the cure gets out.
 

Gibsons

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Some scientist might want to find a cure, but the executives who control everything don't, they want the opposite more sick people, would be surprised if secretly some HIV drugs are designed with a hidden function to make HIV spread more easily. Or cancer drugs that make sure some people have relapses or never experience full remission. These companies want people sick

Wow, you're out there.
 
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