Effective cancer cure is found, except you can't have it because of the FDA fraud

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Lifer
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Guys, if he produced even one study that used a sound method for demonstrating a statistically significant increase in survival rates that could be reproduced then I would say "damn the FDA"; but in reality he hasn't shown a damn thing. In other words, he's mad.

I could give 1000 cancer patients granola bars and when 10 live claim that it was the chocolate chips that saved them, but who cares?

Yup, another cure that only works under when you don't look at it to closely. Implement strict scientific protocol and it somehow stops working.
 

crashtestdummy

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If it wasn't for the FDA crazy people like this guy would be killing millions by keeping people from seeking real treatment. Yea, damn those FDA!

If you're ever in New Orleans, I recommend the Pharmacy Museum. It'll give you an idea of the world without the FDA. People were selling mercury and arsenic compounds for their "healing" properties. And those were the more reputable ones...
 

Capt Caveman

Lifer
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If it wasn't for the FDA crazy people like this guy would be killing millions by keeping people from seeking real treatment. Yea, damn those FDA!

This. Cure for cancer? What kind? At what stage? Different cancers have different causes and currently require different treatments. One cure for them all? LOL.
 

OCGuy

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Note to OP: Any time you watch any sort of propaganda documentary...take a step back..take a breath...and do some of your own research.

Remember, the job of most of those types of videos are to convince you to believe the way they do, not to be fair to all sides.
 

JD50

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Shit like this pisses me off. Someone tries to do something for the good of the people, but it eats into someones profits, barely, and the companies FLIP THEIR SHIT and do everything they can to keep it off the shelf. See: Who Killed the Electric Car

I don't want to live on this planet anymore.

Do you believe everything that you read on the internet?
 

SunnyD

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This. Cure for cancer? What kind? At what stage? Different cancers have different causes and currently require different treatments. One cure for them all? LOL.

To be fair, ALL cancers have the same underlying basis - mass uncontrolled cellular division caused by an inability to inhibit the process of mitosis. This is because of an incorrect coding for suppressor genes for the cellular cycle. Now you are correct in saying there are different causes for this - mutation for various reasons, or hereditary reasons, etc. But each of those causes still boil down to create the underlying cause for tumor formation. The most effective treatment for cancer will ultimately be some sort of genomic treatment. I don't believe a peptide-based treatment such as this, however, is the answer.
 

videogames101

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OK,
So if his medicine does not work, how come it is in the stage 3 of the official approval procedure by the FDA?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinical_trial

It is quite tough for a snake oil salesman to get to that kind of an advancement...

"Some Phase II trials are designed as case series, demonstrating a drug's safety and activity in a selected group of patients. Other Phase II trials are designed as randomized clinical trials, where some patients receive the drug/device and others receive placebo/standard treatment. Randomized Phase II trials have far fewer patients than randomized Phase III trials."

In other words, Phase II trials are pretty much worthless.

"Phase III studies are randomized controlled multicenter trials on large patient groups (300–3,000 or more depending upon the disease/medical condition studied) and are aimed at being the definitive assessment of how effective the drug is, in comparison with current 'gold standard' treatment."

Now in Phase III, you have to actually demonstrate that the drug works.
 

gevorg

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Is it really at Phase 3 trial at FDA? Any reputable links to current status/progress?
 
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To be fair, ALL cancers have the same underlying basis - mass uncontrolled cellular division caused by an inability to inhibit the process of mitosis. This is because of an incorrect coding for suppressor genes for the cellular cycle. Now you are correct in saying there are different causes for this - mutation for various reasons, or hereditary reasons, etc. But each of those causes still boil down to create the underlying cause for tumor formation. The most effective treatment for cancer will ultimately be some sort of genomic treatment. I don't believe a peptide-based treatment such as this, however, is the answer.

i'd put my money on immunologic therapy for a majority of new cures for all sorts of diseases.
 

artvscommerce

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Any time you see doctors or researchers going directly to the public with their findings I see it as a huge red flag. If the research was as significant as the OP makes it out to be, his peer reviewed publications on the subject would be all he would need to take it to the next step.
 

DaveSimmons

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OK,
So if his medicine does not work, how come it is in the stage 3 of the official approval procedure by the FDA?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinical_trial

It is quite tough for a snake oil salesman to get to that kind of an advancement...

Link to proof? It's easy to claim it on film even if it isn't true.

The doctor might have also used weasel words to imply phase 3 trials are in progress as opposed to being proposed or thought of but not really happening yet.

The website just claims trials not phase 3 trials:
http://www.burzynskiclinic.com/clinical-trials.html
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"Currently, there are 5 open clinical trials on Antineoplastons (as of January 2011). All of the clinical trials are registered with the FDA and result of the trials are reported to the FDA on an annual basis."
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"Reported to the FDA" is not at all the same as approved by the FDA.


Edit: the website does mention Phase III trials _might_ be starting this year for one specific cancer type under an "orphan drug program"
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Phase III clinical trial - Brainstem Glioma
"The protocol for the Phase III trials is ready. Phase III trials are expected to start in 2011."
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Also keep in mind these ongoing trials are how the doctor's clinic makes money, so of course they will be running all kinds of trials to collect fees from patients . . . the favorable interpretation is they must collect fees because The Gov and Big Pharma refuse to fund the trials.
 
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Number1

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People like the OP are so fucking stupid, no wonder those crooks manage to make millions with snake oil.

You should try to alert Kylebism, he would be right into this.

Please stick to facts that dispute the OP, not personal attacks. -AdminDrPizza
 
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adlep

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People like the OP are so fucking stupid, no wonder those crooks manage to make millions with snake oil.

You should try to alert Kylebism, he would be right into this.
NO name calling, also, his clinic does not make any money...
He is showing losses. Quite weird thing for a fraudster to actually NOT making any money...
 

adlep

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Oh and btw,
The United States of America wanted to steal Dr. Burzysnki's patents...
Quite a move to steal a snake oil that doesnt work...

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-...1=AND&d=PTXT&s1=5605930&OS=5605930&RS=5605930

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Look at the application for the patent...
One gov agency (FDA) wastes 60 million dollars trying to discredit the work of Mr. Burzynski
while another (The United States of America as represented by the Department of Health) is applying for a fucken patent quoting Mr. Burzynski in it...
(Under References Cited)...
So, all of you shit heads screaming "snake oil" explain that...
 
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OCGuy

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If you're ever in New Orleans, I recommend the Pharmacy Museum. It'll give you an idea of the world without the FDA. People were selling mercury and arsenic compounds for their "healing" properties. And those were the more reputable ones...

The FDA, like most federal agencies, was started with good intention. Once the genie is out of the bottle, however, it is too late.

The FDA today bows down to big Agra. They allow Big Pharma to peddle drugs directly to consumers via constant TV ads.

They allow congress and the DEA to keep helpful medicine out of the hands of people who need it, because it grows naturally, so there isnt a shit ton for Pfizer to make.

Hell, it took them forever to do something about "Downer Cows" going into the food chain...

They need to be disbanded and completely restructured.
 
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